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|  03-17-2003, 10:28 PM | #1 | 
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				Newbie Guide To TGP's - Everything Ive Learned
			 ---TGP For Dummies--- By LiL2Rich4u2 ICQ - 175171926 Step 1 Build the TGP using all chokers links (he will send traffic back for all clicks) Step 2 submit TGP to choker for approval to buy traffic Step 3 *AFTER* it has been approved buy 300k hits or so and PAUSE THE TRAFFIC!!! Step 4 Go *shopping* for trades. Join 1 and go to his top 3 trades on his toplist and join there also .... continue until you have 10-30big boys on there AND 20-40 smaller ones (they send productive traffic sometimes) Step 5 Release the hits! Let the 300k hits from choker click all over the place and feed your trades, hopefully you will jump start some big trades and they with only 3 or 4 they will feed each other with no other traffic. My estimate is that if you buy 300k hits and use this stratagy, you will soon have an AVG of 100k-190k self generated hits per day. Step 6 Reduce chokers links to about half the TGP and the other half make them from submissions. Doing this will ensure some more traffic from choker. You want his hits because they are sometimes very productive. Step 7 Post on forums that you now have a 150k+ tgp looking for quality galleries with recips. Once these guys see you sending a few k per day to their galleries, BELEIVE me they will be back tomorow to submit more, as many as you let them! Step 8 Add an AP click-pic banner on top or middle of page, with this amount of traffic this will surely generate over $150 per month. Step 9 Mention you are selling a top banner spot on your 200k TGP, people will pay near or over $500 for this monthly! Step 10 Reserve top 5 gallery positions for your own galleries. You can either use your own and make use of a gallery rotator script, or most sponsors have rotating hosted galleries. Step 11 (prolly should have been sooner) Add a toplist!!! Very basic, but make sure its on top of page. *DO NOT* add target="_new" or blank or anything, let them leave your site. Reason for this is because toplists will get good clickthroughs, and if you let the surfur know he is going to see more links before he clicks it, you will have SUPER high productivity on the other end and recieve 2-3x the amount of hits back. Step 12 By now you have about 300k-400k a day. Add a banner rotating script to the bottom or middle of the page. With this many hits someone is bound to click it and make you $35-$55 per sale! Using this strategy, within 2-3 weeks you can have a huge ass TGP generating more hits than you can handle, and about $1k-$2k per month income. Continue these steps manyt imes and open several niche TGP's. *DO NOT* make some general TGP that has all 59 catagories from choker's list, these are a dime a dozen and from what i find do not work well with this guide. Always stick to a niche, my first one was ebony/bbw and it jumped to 20k in 1 day WITHOUT buying traffic! Anyhow, good luck and i hope you apreciate the time it took to write this, because my fingers are fucking killing me, lol ----------disclaimer--------- this method is based soley on theory, i have not tested it as i do not have the funds to buy the traffic nor pay for the hosting. Sounds cheasy but its true. If you dont agree witht hese methods, dont use them! lol ... im just trying to help some newbies with some ideas. Good day - LiL2Rich4u2 | 
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|  03-17-2003, 10:32 PM | #2 | 
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				 | Didn't you just say you were broke? | 
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|  03-17-2003, 10:33 PM | #3 | 
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				 | Did you read the disclaimer? lol | 
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|  03-17-2003, 10:33 PM | #4 | 
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|  03-17-2003, 10:36 PM | #5 | 
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				 | holly fuck - a 300-400K a day TGP could make $1000-$2000/month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  WOW 
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|  03-17-2003, 10:37 PM | #6 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:38 PM | #7 | 
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				 | i'm sure it'd bring me shitload of monies but too much to read  | 
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|  03-17-2003, 10:38 PM | #8 | |
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 based on 100% TGP traffic sure ... if you had a source for some untapped SE hits, you know you can multiply that as many times as you want. | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:38 PM | #9 | 
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				 |   sweet. After I do that, I can order the premium channels on DirecTV finally. WHEW, just in time for Queer as Folk. Mogul 
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|  03-17-2003, 10:38 PM | #10 | 
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				 | Here is my guide. 1. Build a TGP 2. ??? 3. PROFIT! Easy money. 
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|  03-17-2003, 10:40 PM | #11 | 
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				 | This theory will not work. Not now, not ever. Some very big flaws in there. 
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|  03-17-2003, 10:42 PM | #12 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:42 PM | #13 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:43 PM | #14 | |
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 I dont doubt it, but if you dont mind sharing? I do this all the time, i work out a whole system in my head and it looks perfect, ends up being a fucking disaster! Like my DVD site, my first step into this biz and i thought was gonna be HUGE!!! I mean i was on phone with distributers, bargaining for deals saying "Look pal, my site is launching in less than a week and if you want to keep my business, you need to come down .. end of story." and they did! lol Well turns out i blew $3k on site development, $2k on DVD's, and made maybe $1k off it TOTAL. Oh well, live and learn, heh | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:44 PM | #15 | |
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 I agree .... i wish SD would post comments on this though, id like to see what you guys have to say about this and what can be done differently, and/or what im overlooking. | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:45 PM | #16 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:46 PM | #17 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:48 PM | #18 | |
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 right now im scrambling to make rent (which its looking good thanks to soul rebel), as soon as that is covered, im game! | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:49 PM | #19 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:50 PM | #20 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:50 PM | #21 | 
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				 | I dont trust newbies! 
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|  03-17-2003, 10:50 PM | #22 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:51 PM | #23 | 
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				 | i usually have a thousand in the bank before lunch | 
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|  03-17-2003, 10:53 PM | #24 | 
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				 | shemp, you're the pimp. 'cept you guys never replied to my email  
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|  03-17-2003, 10:55 PM | #25 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:55 PM | #26 | 
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				 | send it again, i was at the bank | 
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|  03-17-2003, 10:56 PM | #27 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 10:57 PM | #28 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 11:02 PM | #29 | 
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				 | Highly probable.  Though step 11 should be alot sooner. | 
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|  03-17-2003, 11:04 PM | #30 | |
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 I agree though i forgot to mention it until the end and i was too lazy to change all the step numbers, LOL!! | |
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|  03-17-2003, 11:05 PM | #31 | 
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				 | I thought you left GFY because we're all assholes? 
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|  03-17-2003, 11:07 PM | #32 | |
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 Someone asked for some help here and i figured it was well written and id come share it. | |
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|  03-17-2003, 11:08 PM | #33 | 
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				 | Stupid thing was telling everyone.  You should of just compiled it into an ebook, and sold it to the masses. | 
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|  03-17-2003, 11:09 PM | #34 | |
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 awesomes, send it to you or nina? 
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|  03-17-2003, 11:12 PM | #35 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 11:14 PM | #36 | 
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				 | If you need to buy 300k hits to "jump start" your TGP you are doing something wrong.... if i was you i'd learn how to design a TGP that has 300-500% productivity before spending a dime on traffic to "jump start" it. With a good design you should only need like 10-20k MAX to get up to 100k in no time... Please just retire and go sell some rock to make the rent sorry for being so harsh but you are just not cut out for this biz.  | 
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|  03-17-2003, 11:14 PM | #37 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 11:15 PM | #38 | |
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|  03-17-2003, 11:20 PM | #39 | |
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 Ok first off fuck you   second off, your full of shit ... you and I both know you dont NEED even a decent looking TGP to be productive. Ive done it with the crappiest designs, and im sure you have or other people reading this post. and maybe you need 300k to boost traffic on a poorly designed page? You dont have to use it, or like it, or even read it ... just move on and lay off me, moron | |
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|  03-17-2003, 11:25 PM | #40 | 
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				 | Question to all: what is your favorite traffic trading script? | 
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|  03-17-2003, 11:27 PM | #41 | |
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 TTT by far is the best, ive tried most of them. personally i dont care for chokers attitude lately, but his programs are kick ass. | |
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|  03-17-2003, 11:27 PM | #42 | 
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				 | Didn't you say you have a 50k TGP? You can make $1k a month with that at least, if you work at it. 
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|  03-17-2003, 11:29 PM | #43 | 
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				 | No FUCK YOU look at the title of your thread it says "EVERYTHING I'VE LEARNED" and its just some week ass theory you have thought up trying to pay your rent or to waste your hard earned $$$ on after you make the rent this month. Not something you've even learned or done yet. Also I didn't say a design of a TGP had to look good to be productive.... What i said was 300k of traffic is absurdly unnecessary to jump start a TGP all you need is 10-20k. | 
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|  03-17-2003, 11:30 PM | #44 | |
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 Smoke a joint, relax a bit. You're too uptight. 
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|  03-17-2003, 11:34 PM | #45 | |
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 Ok I how much for you to set all that up for me? Scripts for trades and tgp included I will buy the traffic to get it rolling they can invoice me you do the work .. 
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|  03-17-2003, 11:36 PM | #46 | |
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 I second this. Click on the link below, legal is the way to go! | |
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|  03-17-2003, 11:38 PM | #47 | |
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 Sly, regardless of what site he owns or pushes, or how he does it. Fuck him and his bridge! I posted this to get feedback, and give some people some ideas if they havent had any like this already. Ahh fuck it, i cant stand this shit .... nothing at all wrong with posting what i did, and im getting flamed up and down! FUCK IT | |
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|  03-17-2003, 11:38 PM | #48 | 
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				 | Wow shit.. after reading my post seems like I made a rhyme, Good shit  | 
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