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The Porn Nerd · 05-25-2015, 08:34 AM

FIDDY free video players! LOL

Sly · 05-25-2015, 08:36 AM

You don't need a library to play videos. Use HTML5.

HTML5 Video

The Porn Nerd · 05-25-2015, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

You don't need a library to play videos. Use HTML5.

HTML5 Video

Obviously I am not a tech guy (tho I am a 'nerd' hehe). But I am getting an education here! So yeah, making the switch to a free player this week.

RazorSharpe · 05-25-2015, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Exactly. That's why I am leaving the Logo for now until I switch to a free solution.

I did - $1200+ yearly then an additional $299 per 10 sites. For a VIDEO PLAYER. No thanks.

Listen everyone, I was just looking for a way to remove that annoying Logo without mortgaging my house. I always pay for software because it's usually cheap or reasonable and easier than trying to work around shit. BUT JW Player's asking price is WAY too high. So....it's a free version for me.

Thanks everyone for all the free alternatives!

You're still missing the point though. If your 80+ sites are a commercial enterprise then you cannot even use the free version. That's what Captain Kawaii is trying to tell you, and he's right.

Also, telling people to "calm down" or "I was only looking blah blah" is a little disingenuous after you made a statement like this:

"No. $299 for 10 sites wouldn't even work for me since I have 8x that amount.
All I need is a Key (or Keygen) and we're good to go. Open source, remember."

Va2k · 05-25-2015, 08:41 AM

WOW I knew this thread was going to be good and I was right! WOW..

ruff · 05-25-2015, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

You don't need a library to play videos. Use HTML5.

HTML5 Video

I started using this a long time ago. It's way easy to use html5 and using EasyFLV to convert videos it works in all modern browsers. No more players. I'm surprised more people aren't already using it, especially in porn.

Harmon · 05-25-2015, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

wow! just wow! And you think this is okay to ask on a forum where 80% (the other 20 are stealing) of the people are complaining about people stealing their work?

Sometimes people in this industry amaze me.

Fucking seriously.

I remember looking for a core Windows file that I was missing back in the day, and fucking Lensman locked that shit up and emailed me and said this isn't a warez/serialz forum. This was shit I was trying to work around due to corruption.

Shit's changed around here.

blackmonsters · 05-25-2015, 08:57 AM

My sig is a complete waste of space.

Harmon · 05-25-2015, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

My sig is a complete waste of space.

You are a complete waste of oxygen, water as well as food.

How do you even look at yourself in the mirror?

Fucking pig fuck.

The Porn Nerd · 05-25-2015, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

You're still missing the point though. If your 80+ sites are a commercial enterprise then you cannot even use the free version. That's what Captain Kawaii is trying to tell you, and he's right.

Also, telling people to "calm down" or "I was only looking blah blah" is a little disingenuous after you made a statement like this:

"No. $299 for 10 sites wouldn't even work for me since I have 8x that amount.
All I need is a Key (or Keygen) and we're good to go. Open source, remember."

Actually EVERYONE is missing the fucking point here. LOL OBVIOUSLY I am the BIGGEST PIRATE ON THE INTERNET AND I MUST BE STOPPED!!! LOL

So what's the penalty if JW Player finds I am using the free version on my porn Tours (just like thousands of other Webmasters)? Do I go to License jail? Does it stop working? LOL C'mon man CALM DOWN.

I tried to buy the commercial version but they quoted me an INSANE price. Would ANYONE on here pay upwards of $1200+ yearly for life for an Open Source video player? Of course not.

So I thought there was a simple fix, or hack, that would remove the Logo being Open Source. But apparently this means.....

I AM THE BIGGEST PIRATE ON THE INTERNET AND I MUST BE STOPPED!!!!

People must be so bored that this qualifies as 'drama' these days. LMAO

How many times do I have to say (apparently once more): I WILL USE A FREE ALTERNATIVE.

Get a life people, seriously.

Harmon · 05-25-2015, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Actually EVERYONE is missing the fucking point here. LOL OBVIOUSLY I am the BIGGEST PIRATE ON THE INTERNET AND I MUST BE STOPPED!!! LOL

So what's the penalty if JW Player finds I am using the free version on my porn Tours (just like thousands of other Webmasters)? Do I go to License jail? Does it stop working? LOL C'mon man CALM DOWN.

I tried to buy the commercial version but they quoted me an INSANE price. Would ANYONE on here pay upwards of $1200+ yearly for life for an Open Source video player? Of course not.

So I thought there was a simple fix, or hack, that would remove the Logo being Open Source. But apparently this means.....

I AM THE BIGGEST PIRATE ON THE INTERNET AND I MUST BE STOPPED!!!!

People must be so bored that this qualifies as 'drama' these days. LMAO

How many times do I have to say (apparently once more): I WILL USE A FREE ALTERNATIVE.

Get a life people, seriously.

God you are a fucking moron. Yes, you PAY if you need to use it. Are you fucking stupid? Oh yeah, yes, you are.

You either follow the terms or don't.

What could happen? You'd lose all of your fucking money in court.

No wonder why you are drilling yourself into a hole in the ground.

Hire somebody to post for you that reps your shithole of a company. That's the best advice I can give you.

Actually, rebrand it and make a new nick - then hire somebody else.

Everybody here is starving due to piracy and your punk ass shows up looking for serials because, according to you... "it's too expensive..."

Cunt.

RazorSharpe · 05-25-2015, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Actually EVERYONE is missing the fucking point here. LOL OBVIOUSLY I am the BIGGEST PIRATE ON THE INTERNET AND I MUST BE STOPPED!!! LOL

So what's the penalty if JW Player finds I am using the free version on my porn Tours (just like thousands of other Webmasters)? Do I go to License jail? Does it stop working? LOL C'mon man CALM DOWN.

I tried to buy the commercial version but they quoted me an INSANE price. Would ANYONE on here pay upwards of $1200+ yearly for life for an Open Source video player? Of course not.

So I thought there was a simple fix, or hack, that would remove the Logo being Open Source. But apparently this means.....

I AM THE BIGGEST PIRATE ON THE INTERNET AND I MUST BE STOPPED!!!!

People must be so bored that this qualifies as 'drama' these days. LMAO

How many times do I have to say (apparently once more): I WILL USE A FREE ALTERNATIVE.

Get a life people, seriously.

I've been here since 2001 and have under 1600 posts, yeah, I'm all about the "drama". You're doing just fine perpetuating this thread by acting like you didn't do anything wrong and that it's all JWPlayer's fault for setting their preferred pricing model.

What JWPlayer does as a result of your violation isn't what's important here. What is important is your reaction AFTER finding out you are violating the license.

You can pontificate, use CAPS and your LOLs and LMAOs as much as you like; this however does not detract from the fact that you asked how you can circumvent a license and also that you are currently knowingly using software in violation of the license terms.

baddog · 05-25-2015, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

Sorry, are you saying the error is in SIK's post?

No.

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Originally Posted by candyflip

I take it you're unfamiliar with the concept of open source software? But is JW truly open source, that should be the question.

I take it you're unfamiliar with the concept of commercial vs non-commercial use.

The Porn Nerd · 05-25-2015, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

God you are a fucking moron. Yes, you PAY if you need to use it. Are you fucking stupid? Oh yeah, yes, you are.

You either follow the terms or don't.

What could happen? You'd lose all of your fucking money in court.

No wonder why you are drilling yourself into a hole in the ground.

Hire somebody to post for you that reps your shithole of a company. That's the best advice I can give you.

Actually, rebrand it and make a new nick - then hire somebody else.

Everybody here is starving due to piracy and your punk ass shows up looking for serials because, according to you... "it's too expensive..."

Cunt.

Eat a bag of dicks asshole. JW Player is going to sue me in court for using their Free version? Me, and about ten thousand other adult webmasters too I guess?

Nope I do NOT want to pay $1200 for a video player so GUESS WHAT cocksucker cunt bag? I will be using a FREE OPEN SOURCE NON LOGO version. And this is the last time I am saying this.

And gee, Harmon thinks my company is shit so I guess....I'm doing really well then!! :D

The Porn Nerd · 05-25-2015, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

I've been here since 2001 and have under 1600 posts, yeah, I'm all about the "drama". You're doing just fine perpetuating this thread by acting like you didn't do anything wrong and that it's all JWPlayer's fault for setting their preferred pricing model.

What JWPlayer does as a result of your violation isn't what's important here. What is important is your reaction AFTER finding out you are violating the license.

You can pontificate, use CAPS and your LOLs and LMAOs as much as you like; this however does not detract from the fact that you asked how you can circumvent a license and also that you are currently knowingly using software in violation of the license terms.

Well I apologize and I am a BAD BOY.

But apparently people just want to crucify instead of realizing I was asking for what I THOUGHT was a simple fix.

Look man, I am NOT a Pirate or a bad person. I got new info and I (gasp) made a new decision!

Yup I suck.

Harmon · 05-25-2015, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Eat a bag of dicks asshole. JW Player is going to sue me in court for using their Free version? Me, and about ten thousand other adult webmasters too I guess?

Nope I do NOT want to pay $1200 for a video player so GUESS WHAT cocksucker cunt bag? I will be using a FREE OPEN SOURCE NON LOGO version. And this is the last time I am saying this.

And gee, Harmon thinks my company is shit so I guess....I'm doing really well then!! :D

Volumes spoken, thanks.

You didn't get it, nor will you ever.

Continue begging for traffic, kid.

You're shit, done with you.

The Porn Nerd · 05-25-2015, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

Volumes spoken, thanks.

You didn't get it, nor will you ever.

Continue begging for traffic, kid.

You're shit, done with you.

Actually I DO 'get it' but the knee-jerk reaction from people who now assume I am SO TERRIBLE is funny to me.

I do apologize for using the word 'hack' when I should've said 'fix'. But I am NOT sorry for looking for other free alternatives to what I consider a ludicrous price point.

Done now, carry on everyone!

And how will I live without Harmon's involvement in my life? After all, he has helped my business SO MUCH over the years! Don't leave me Harmon PLEEEEEEEEEZE!!

EddyTheDog · 05-25-2015, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

...I take it you're unfamiliar with the concept of commercial vs non-commercial use.

All GPL software and it's derivatives have to be offered free - That's the basis of the whole license...

That's the main fight people have about WP themes etc.....

I haven't checked that JV is GPL BTW - I am taking his word for it...

RazorSharpe · 05-25-2015, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

All GPL software and it's derivatives have to be offered free - That's the basis of the whole license...

That's the main fight people have about WP themes etc.....

I haven't checked that JV is GPL BTW - I am taking his word for it...

Just because software is open source does not mean it is licensed under GPL. JWPlayer for instance is open source and as I mentioned already it is covered under the Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

Harmon · 05-25-2015, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

Just because software is open source does not mean it is licensed under GPL. JWPlayer for instance is open source and as I mentioned already it is covered under the Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

Don't bother explaining. He wants everything for free. If that includes piracy? He's all about it.

Sad days.

EddyTheDog · 05-25-2015, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

...as I mentioned already it is covered under the Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

I missed that - Sorry...

The Porn Nerd · 05-25-2015, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

Just because software is open source does not mean it is licensed under GPL. JWPlayer for instance is open source and as I mentioned already it is covered under the Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

I am sorry I was being snarky in this thread, especially to you. I do not understand the disctinctions regarding "Open Source". To ME that means free so when I saw JW Player charging so much for something I consider Open Source (and they claim this on their site) I was upset and looked for other alternatives.

I pay for software, believe me. My computer is full of paid software. LOL I should've just asked for alternatives and be done with it. Sorry i caused all this.....drama.

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Originally Posted by Harmon

Don't bother explaining. He wants everything for free. If that includes piracy? He's all about it.

Sad days.

Last comment to you Sir Dousche:

I do a TON of business here on GFY. I overpay, pay early and make sure everyone gets their money ASAP. This includes Content Providers, Programmers, Designers, advertising and more. I pay for EVERYTHING.

So i am sorry I got everyone so upset over this issue. I learned my lesson. So now?

Carry on I guess.

EddyTheDog · 05-25-2015, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

Don't bother explaining. He wants everything for free. If that includes piracy? He's all about it.

Sad days.

Excuse me?!.

Harmon · 05-25-2015, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Excuse me?!.

Not you, Ed.

EddyTheDog · 05-25-2015, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

Not you, Ed.

blackmonsters · 05-25-2015, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

You are a complete waste of oxygen, water as well as food.

How do you even look at yourself in the mirror?

Fucking pig fuck.

I would care if you weren't retarded.

candyflip · 05-25-2015, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

No.

I take it you're unfamiliar with the concept of commercial vs non-commercial use.

Open Source is open source. There is no commercial or non-commercial designation.

I'd expect someone who's made two statements in one thread claiming to know what he's talking about to at least know the basics.

just a punk · 05-25-2015, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff

I started using this a long time ago. It's way easy to use html5 and using EasyFLV to convert videos it works in all modern browsers. No more players. I'm surprised more people aren't already using it, especially in porn.

Because you can't have your custom ads (pre-rolls, post-rolls, on-pause, on-click popups etc) and branding logos in the player window using just HTML. Check this out for example: KVS Player Pro

Your Captain Obvious ;)

P.S. In the demo player all ads are empty and all logs (top left and bottom right ones) are linked to ign.com because I don't want to put commercial adds over those videos to not violate the IGN TOS. In your case there could be cam previews, banners, paysite popups or anything else - no limits at all.

fuzebox · 05-25-2015, 11:45 AM

So the takeaway from this thread is Porn Nerd is a thief.

baddog · 05-25-2015, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

Open Source is open source. There is no commercial or non-commercial designation.

I'd expect someone who's made two statements in one thread claiming to know what he's talking about to at least know the basics.

Yet, here you are

Quote:

JW Player Free
This edition is free for non-commercial use under a Creative Commons license. It includes our basic set of integrated features, discussed above. During playback, a small JW Player watermark is displayed in the corner of the player.

JW Player | What is JW Player?

The Porn Nerd · 05-25-2015, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

So the takeaway from this thread is Porn Nerd is a thief.

Yup I'm a real Jesse James. LOL Gimme a break.

NOT using JW Player people, GOT IT??

Move along now.

johnnyloadproductions · 05-25-2015, 12:41 PM

I'm sure the porn nerd dude gets his share of sales alright but strikes me as a penny pinchers in areas he doesn't need to be, also thinks real low of his consumer base

I was talking to a real estate salesmen about how haggling goes with sales. He'll close on a house with people for $250k+ and there is a fee for a mandatory inspection that is $100, people will go back and forth fighting this fee for hours or even over the course of a week when it is negligible in ratio to the house fee.

I'm wondering if the lean years of the Porn Nerd starting from nothing, as he said, is still in him and hence his penny pinching. Much like a dog that was starved (my sister has one) will still hide food though it's plentiful.
My Grandpa went through the Great Depression and it turned him into a bit of a penny pincher in certain areas, he was a multimillionaire. Just got back from visiting him, 93rd birthday, he'll be dead in the next 6 months.

ruff · 05-25-2015, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

So the takeaway from this thread is Porn Nerd is a thief.

Are you accusing? You seem to be making a statement.

The Porn Nerd · 05-25-2015, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

I'm sure the porn nerd dude gets his share of sales alright but strikes me as a penny pinchers in areas he doesn't need to be, also thinks real low of his consumer base

I was talking to a real estate salesmen about how haggling goes with sales. He'll close on a house with people for $250k+ and there is a fee for a mandatory inspection that is $100, people will go back and forth fighting this fee for hours or even over the course of a week when it is negligible in ratio to the house fee.

I'm wondering if the lean years of the Porn Nerd starting from nothing, as he said, is still in him and hence his penny pinching. Much like a dog that was starved (my sister has one) will still hide food though it's plentiful.
My Grandpa went through the Great Depression and it turned him into a bit of a penny pincher in certain areas, he was a multimillionaire. Just got back from visiting him, 93rd birthday, he'll be dead in the next 6 months.

Well there is 'penny pinching' and then there's 'gouging'. LOL Everyone seems to miss the part here where I contacted JW Player asking for a custom one-time payment solution. Their response of $1200+ for a yearly fee was insane! So not knowing much about this or that tech issue I asked for a way to remove the logo. But based on the OUTRAGE this thread produced - as if I'm the only human being who ever tried to get a free copy or trade for a copy of software - really surprises me.

Anyway, I'm going with the FREE HTML5 alternative yet somehow people miss this too and want to continue this fake 'drama'. Go for it, I'm done.

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Originally Posted by ruff

Are you accusing? You seem to be making a statement.

Don't worry about it man. I can't be a 'thief' if I'm not using the damn software now. LOL

RazorSharpe · 05-26-2015, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Open Source is open source. There is no commercial or non-commercial designation.

I'd expect someone who's made two statements in one thread claiming to know what he's talking about to at least know the basics.

That isn't entirely true even though the open source community wants it to be. There are numerous variations on open source and one of those is a license that is extended for free use on a non-commercial basis.

RazorSharpe · 05-26-2015, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Well there is 'penny pinching' and then there's 'gouging'. LOL Everyone seems to miss the part here where I contacted JW Player asking for a custom one-time payment solution. Their response of $1200+ for a yearly fee was insane!

Hi TPN,

You really need to put this into perspective to be fair.

If you have one site, they charge $149 per year. At average ticket price of $30, your one site would need to generate 5 joins to pay for this.

For 10 sites, they charge $300 per year which works out to $30 per site. At average ticket price, this would mean you would need to generate 1 join per site per year to pay for this.

In your case, having 80+ sites, they are charging you circa $15 per site per year which equates to 1/2 a join per site to make it pay for itself.

Of course there's the alternative you took - forget about JWPlayer and go for a completely free solution.

spooks69 · 06-06-2015, 11:35 PM

Call me crazy, but Can't you get the PRO version for ONE site..Host your video with them, and embed it on multiple sites?

I don't know..I have a "Self Hosed" player, and it only tracks the video called...so I think you could host all the videos on a single site, and then embed them everywhere.....worth a shot.

plaster · 06-06-2015, 11:39 PM

I've never even run into this problem... so weird. Video players are free... find a free one

symtab · 06-06-2015, 11:41 PM

Use Video JS you can customize it with CSS and add your logo. It works with both html5 video and also plays mp4 via flash (as a fallback when html5 is not available).

freecartoonporn · 06-07-2015, 01:55 AM

why not get something custom made for your entire network ?

pay one time enjoy lifetime or until it gets outdated.

brandonstills · 06-07-2015, 01:54 PM

Open Source just means you can view the source code for free. It doesn't mean you can use it for free, although that is the case for the majority of open source. MIT or Apache licenses are good for absolutely free.

You might want to look into HTML5 Video Player | Video.js

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