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Fitty life sentences

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takethebluepill

And yet there is one member on GFY who has been here for a good many years, and who now runs a cross-sell nightmare of an affiliate program. This ass-hat (one of his favourite sayings) was one of the largest distributors of malware in the late 1990's / early 2000's. ...Malware which would make people's computers virtually unusable..costing likely millions in computer damage and lost productivity.

Now that is a person that would deserve a sentence like this and more.

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RummyBoy

Sentence is definitely excessive

I think it should have been closer to say 7 years due to the financial extortion aspect... the whole process itself is punishing enough for someone let alone financial penalties they could have used. His life is totally over due to what could be just an error of judgement. There was a time when online cases didn't get prosecuted at all - now its totally overboard.

TheSquealer

uhmm... no. His life is over for committing a broad range of serious crimes such as 20+ counts of identity theft and the felonious extortion of money from people as a business model.

Since when do facts not matter at all? You guys have opinions and literally know nothing about it, but the title of this thread.

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TCLGirls

Hunter Moore got 2 years minimum in Federal jail because he agreed to the plea bargain to avoid trial. (smart)

This Kevin Christopher Bollaert got 18 years because he thought a jury would find him not guilty. (dumb)

Holy Damage

lol how about sites like seemygf dot com, wifebucket dot com from seemybucks or adultempire?

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Are you an idiot or a spammer?

nm_

So this guy profits off ruining 20+ lives, but we should show this piece of scum leniency because we all make errors in judgement???

This guy knew exactly what he was doing. Punishment definitely fits the crime... If anything its too lenient

Acepimp

I thought Hunter Moore was doing the same shit- wasn't he charging like 200 to remove the photos, and linking to their fb profiles? How did he not catch extortion charges?

TCLGirls

He accepted a plea bargain and avoided trial.

L-Pink

Look a few posts above yours .......

Holy Damage

then, sites like that is all legal? my ass!

L-Pink

Well, did you post the sites for views or because you can't figure out if they are charging to take down photos?

Seth Manson

Does he live in Washington state?

american pervert

Most rapists and murderers get less time because they plea bargain. Around 96% of court cases are plea bargained meaning if you admit to wrong doing (even if you didn't do it) you will get less time compared if you go to trial. ANY child rapist, murderer or who ever does go to a full trial will often have the book thrown at them and get the maximum if found guilty. Chances are this fucker thought he had a case and wanted to go to trial, I'm sure there was a deal offered for less time and he didn't take it.

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Captain Kawaii

California allows for civil lawsuits right?
Good to see he was shut down and locked up.

RummyBoy

He was asking like around $300 to have people removed from the site. I don't know a huge amount of the details but I do think the punishment should fit the crime.... doesn't look like it does in this case.

18 years? He's not a murderer. Some terrorists will get out before he does....

GregE

Well said.

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just a punk

Too bad for him. In my country the greater punishment absorbs the lesser one.

I'm not sure that electric chair is somehow better than stones

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Ramster

I couldn't agree more. 18 years for a non violet crime is so fucking stupid. he should be in jail for what he did yes but 18 years? C'mon!

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american pervert

Most rapists and murderers get less time because they plea bargain. Around 96% of court cases are plea bargained meaning if you admit to wrong doing (even if you didn't do it) you will get less time compared if you go to trial. ANY child rapist, murderer or who ever does go to a full trial will often have the book thrown at them and get the maximum if found guilty. Chances are this fucker thought he had a case and wanted to go to trial, I'm sure there was a deal offered for less time and he didn't take it.

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amvcdotcom

if his jail rape is recorded, they could submit it to his site!

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blackmonsters

So what do you think about Bernard Madoff?

Criminal penalty :

150 years imprisonment and forfeiture of $17.179 billion


Bernard Madoff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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aka123

This whole offering deals thing is something that doesn't fit into civilized society with functional legal system.

The whole fucking idea is to determine someone being guilty or not, and giving sentence if he is guilty. This deal thing skips the whole process that makes the legal system as legal system. Like that it is some inquisition, which only function is to get confessions.

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he's an idiot.

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american pervert

Well, I agree it's fucked up, however, that is the legal system in America. It is also to cut down on the time it takes to generate a conviction. If everyone who was arrested had to have a jury trial it would backlog the system by years.

Advantages and Disadvantages of Plea Bargaining | OccupyTheory

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dyna mo

give me a fucking break and realize it's done around the globe. Italy, for instance, right off the top of my head.

aka123

Everybody charged should get a trial. How in fuck they know that they have had the right guy in the first place (especially outside police)? Or should the guy be sentenced and or how much he should get?

Especially as not everything goes with the long way, at least around here. And based on US television series, not in there either. You know, you don't have some grand jury for speeding ticket.


Separation of power; the keystone for establishing and maintaining civilized societies. In this making deals thing you basically leave out the "judiciary".

"The typical division of branches is into a legislature, an executive, and a judiciary."

Separation of powers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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aka123

There are shitty countries around the globe. Italy for instance isn't famous for being that good country; in mafia's grip, corrupted, ineffective government, misuse of government's money, etc., and if true; sucky legal system too.

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Jel

you have to be a woman. wtf does the mafia have to do with what was said? and you do realise everyone *does* get a trial if they want? jesus to fuck I thought I was an argumentative cunt, but you take it to a whole new level.

PornDiscounts-V

Since when?

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just a punk

In fact his comment about mafia was right. You just don't understand what mafia is. It's not a bunch of funny-speaking Italian kids with guns as it shown in the Sopranos. A real mafia is a coalescence of the government and сrime. It's when criminals literally own the whole legal system in your country. This is the real mafia, which has nothing to do with those harmless street clowns from the US TV shows

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aka123

It has to do with Italy and how the society runs. Mafia is not that famous about caring about people and respecting human rights.

About "everyone gets trial" if they want is irrelevant, as most don't do actually; and every single one should do. Besides; the prosecutor might scare people to deals. The whole thing that you can make a deal is flawed. If you are guilty, you should be sentenced according to law, not based on some deal. And if you are innocent, there shouldn't be any deal offered in the first place. And then there is the whole process defining someone as guilty or not. So many things get bypassed by making deals.

What the fucking kind of legal system is the one where people are sentenced without a trial? It is sucky because that is even possible, and it is probable very sucky as people make deals rather than have a trial. So fucking sucky system that innocent people rather take jail time than use the legal system.

And I am not a woman, and if I were that wouldn't change this thing in a way or another.

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just a punk

Even the evil Stalin's "troyka" was unable to sentence anyone w/o a trial. The USA legal system is based on the English law, while the civilized world uses the Roman one. They still use feet and pounds while the progressive civilization use the metric system.

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crockett

It's the way the lovely US justice system works.. If you rape some one you are probably just raping one person. Sure they will toss in some other charges each with their own jail time, however he was changed 6 times with extortion and 21 times with identity theft.

All those charges are each their own charge when it comes to sentencing. It's been like this every since they figured out they could get Capone on income tax evasion rather than racketeering. The DOJ is allowed to stack charges on top of each other and if found guilty each charge gets a min prison term. It's not a system which is meant to serve justice anymore but a system meant to get plea bargains or convictions.

It's actually a fucked up way to do it, but the DOJ isn't concerned about guilt or innocence but rather if they can get you on "something". If the DOJ brings a case to trial and they don't get a conviction it's bad on their record and looked at not as justice served but rather a "loss".

I'm sure he was guilty but yes I agree it fucking way excessive and ridiculous that rapist can get less time in many cases.

dyna mo

again, it's the common way things are done in first world countries.

Horatio Caine

Woohoo. Our weekly "How shit works in Russia and should everywhere else" tutor is here. The village idiot with PHD from Siberian Wall Rug IT Tech State is on a roll again.

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I know. Comrade Cyberceo is now comparing out legal system to Stalin a guy that killed millions.


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blackmonsters

Hogwash.

Each count is a separate crime committed at a separate time on a separate victim.
He could have stopped after one victim; but the fact that he continued showed he had no remorse.

He stacked his own charges all by himself.



Bottom line : If we took porn out of the story and just considered the convictions, nobody here would think anything was excessive.
People here are really defending porn.

But his operation was exactly what all legit producers don't want in porn; free distribution of unlicensed content.

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aka123

No it isn't, and you don't have first world country for starters. Your society sucks in so many levels. You are only first world country in material standards from middle class up. And big, or at least expensive army.

Your legal system sucks, education system sucks, political system sucks, healthcare system sucks, cohesion sucks, and last but not least; your freedom sucks, which is funny regarding all your freedom propaganda (mainly towards own citizens).

And what is most funny; even so many things sucks; there is no will to make it better/ current sucking state is just denied. I get the sucking part; no one or no country is perfect, but I don't get this denial shit. And this is not anti-US text, this is anti-sucking text. Why you don't make things better?

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He had an ongoing business who's major source of income was felony extortion. He's lucky more counts weren't added.

dyna mo

broken record. we all get it and got it a long time ago, you're going to point your finger at USA over everything. nevertheless, plea bargains are not exclusive to USA and we didn't make it up either.

Jel

and that has what to do with the fact italy allows for plea-bargaining? What next, stating that big business and banks own every gov't in the world, to make a point about... oh wait, to make zero fucking point at all. ok got it, my reasoning skills must be off.

person 1: why do you have plea bargaining?
person 2: To save time/money
person 1: The mafia!
person 2: huh?
person 1: the mafias! they aren't the tv shows you know!
person 2: holy fuck, goodbye.

aka123

I didn't point everything; just the ones those suck. I can point some good things too if that eases your mind. Also, it doesn't matter that do others have the same sucky system or not. For example the common law system (referred as English law by CyberSEO) sucks, and you are not the only one to use it, but it doesn't make it any less sucky. Although for example UK has pulled it better, so it is less sucky in there.

You have the power to change what you do in your own country, no matter what others do.

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dyna mo

you think my mind is ill at ease over what you drone on about re: USA?

aka123

If you continue with the same "US number one" denial state, probably not. At least you should think about it. I don't do that much trash talk.

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I agree that 18 years is too much. Instead give him one year. But strip him naked at all times and put up multiple webcams so the public can view him while he does everything at all times. Maybe also allow one of his victims to cane him 5 times once a week (So 52 victims, perhaps hold a lottery to decide who gets to do it)...on cam of course. That would be more fitting a punishment. He'd probably agree to it too to get out of prison faster. Of course they would call it cruel and unusual.

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iwantchixx

There has been lives ruined due to his website's operation and use plus then he charged the girls money to have pics removed. Real class act.

Sorry but 18 years is NOT enough when it ruins lives to the point of some killing themselves. He should get more time, to be honest. The whole business model was wrong, wrong wrong... and he knew what he was doing was wrong. Hopefully he gets all sorts of fucked-up in prison for the next 18 years.