Let's see...the President said less than a year ago on June 2014 about ISIS:
“The analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant.”

So he was wrong there.

And what was that he told Romney during the 2012 debates about Russia not being a threat and that Romney was stuck in the 1950's for thinking they were?

To supposedly be so smart, our President sure is wrong about a lot of stuff ("healthcare" anyone?)

Warfare is about momentum. When the "Jayvee team" was allowed to build momentum, they attracted more followers, gained more momentum and then attracted more followers and so on. There could not have possibly been a single person in Obama's administration Who understands armed conflict that wasn't saying "hey, if we don't deal with this now, we'll soon be dealing with a monster that will be many times more difficult to deal with". As with the immutable laws of physics, so are the laws of armed conflict. Denying them doesn't change them, it only strengthens the wnemy.

I hope this is true...

The Islamic State appears to fray from within - The Washington Post

it's pretty much what I've been saying about ISIS in these threads. They won't be able to sustain their Islamic utopia in the long run -- especially not with bombs dropping all over their heads constantly.

Don't keep listening to Fox News and Republican war mongers acting like ISIs is the new apocalypse. They're a bunch of fucking monkeys who will never get their dream off the ground because they are their own worst enemy.

Iran is taking care of them in ... IRAQ:2 cents:

I can't understand how it is that the people haven't learned the lesson yet. It seems like every new boogeyman that comes along and the politicians get all fired up to send in the military AGAIN.

And it seems like the general public are in agreement! :(

Wasn't it just like a year ago that the polls were showing that the U.S. public was tired of these stupid "non-wars"?

Why worry at all about an army of of 40,000-50,000+ murderous thugs on a rampage slaughtering men, women and children with a death toll well over 50,000 and growing daily as they take over cities, military bases, oil fields and gather recruits? Why care at all as men, women and children are executed? Why care that children are routinely sold as sex slaves? Why care that they are rampaging through museums destroying 1000-2000-3000+ year old artifacts? Why care that they grow in numbers and have the singular goal of wiping you off the face of the earth? Why care that they took over a large swath of the region?

You guys are all so right. It's basically a non issue. I'm sure every parent that was forced to watch their child raped and beheaded or crucified or sold as a sex slave would agree with you,... you know... i mean they would if they were still alive to agree.

Exactly.......

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Molehill

ISIS needs to be defeated

Seems to me that they weren't that big of a deal until the media started promoting them 24-7.

And then once the U.S. started bombing them...their numbers grew exponentially and the money started flowing in like a river.

It's like hitting the jackpot to have the U.S. come after you. :(

So ... "i don't like government and rules" .. .i get that. But where do you draw the line when innocent people are being murdered wholesale by an armed force that is growing and gaining momentum? There has to be an argument and a plan that deals with the reality as it is... not "what if's"... or "what happened 3 years ago"... etc.

They weren't news until they became news for the amount of territory they had seized and number of people they were killing. Their numbers grew exponentially as they took more territory.. that was WELL before the US started to do something about it with airstrikes.

I don't "Draw the line" anywhere. And neither do you.

The military industrial complex does.

Meanwhile abominations are taking place in Africa that are horrendous. Don't see us bombing over there.

And as far as "innocent people being murdered wholesale"...let me know when they catch up with the U.S. military dropping atomic bombs on two CITIES full of men, women, and children.

Sorry, but in my opinion...when the U.S. gets involved things always seem to go from bad to worse these days.

you mean the US military dropped atomic bombs on two cities full of men, women, and children armed with weapons and prepared by the jap government to die fighting US troops in a war they started? those men women and children?

LOL! Seriously? You think that the babies that got bombed were ready to fight U.S. troops? How about the elderly? Or just the average, everyday, normal citizens?

Come on man...of COURSE we are going to justify that shit. But if ANY other country did something like that, we would be screaming our heads off about them being "terrorists" and "barbarians".

It doesn't matter if it was a war or not. Dropping atomic bombs on two cities (not a military installation, not an army base...but cities with people living in them) was pretty fucked up.
People are still being born with birth defects to this very day from that.

I don't think it, I know it. If a jap was capable of inflicting injury/killing Americans, they were being trained to do that, youngsters up to the elderly.

you may not know about the agression the japs possessed in 1930s-40s, they had full intentions of either conquering the entire pacific or dying trying.

that's a fact.

hindsight is 20-20 Robbie, it's easy to look back from 2015 to 1944 and judge an action not acceptable to you. It's much harder to completely understand the reality of the time as it was happening.

double-checking my recollection-

the japs had 28,000,000 combat ready civilians in 1945 for the battle. the plan was not typical military defense strategy, instead, it was to kill the will of USA by killing and maiming as many US soldiers as possible.

the ages for conscription were 12-60 years old.

One mobilized high school girl, Yukiko Kasai, found herself issued an awl and told, "Even killing one American soldier will do. ... You must aim for the abdomen."


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