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superweb · 03-13-2003, 12:26 PM

I've filled my car by gas today & tried to pay with EP Electron card. How surprised I was, when the girl from the gas station told me, that my card is not working. I told her, that it's not possible(because there are about $300 on my account), so she tried it few times more. I had no cash to pay gas in my pocket, so I left my car audio front panel there, got back home, back to station & paid by my credit card. I lost about an hour by this. Thanks EP, keep up great work.

Kimmykim · 03-13-2003, 12:33 PM

Your card should work at any PIN based transaction terminal.

Can you do me a favor and email me the account name you use -- to [email protected] -- I'll be happy to find out what the issue is and let you know asap --

ZoiNk · 03-13-2003, 12:42 PM

It sounds like he was trying to use it at a non-pin based machine. Basically the electron card (from what I have heard) won't work on Regular transactions, just pin based ones like ATM (ABM for some of ya) machines.
ZoiNk

deathwish000 · 03-13-2003, 12:44 PM

Epassporte dont work for gas or internet, only ATM....
for me that is.

LiveCam · 03-13-2003, 01:04 PM

what's the point ??

ep , pay tyour gaz.. ?

Kimmykim · 03-13-2003, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by deathwish000
Epassporte dont work for gas or internet, only ATM....
for me that is.

Epassporte has two distinct account numbers -- the virtual account number can only be used online -- and it's the only account number that can be used online --

Electron card (plastic card) transactions must be pin based transactions such as ATMs or POS terminals in convenience stores or groceries, etc where you are required to type in a PIN number in order to complete the transaction.

The plastic card number will not work for online transactions, you must use the virtual number assigned to your account in order to do online payments. And the merchant must truly be set up to do online transactions -- they cannot take the number online and then run it thru a non virtual terminal or setup --

deathwish000 · 03-13-2003, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Epassporte has two distinct account numbers -- the virtual account number can only be used online -- and it's the only account number that can be used online --

I gave up after three attempts ordering online products with virtual card, once with gas ( out of curiosity )... ATM is fine with me.

superweb · 03-15-2003, 04:20 AM

I tried to use it at PIN based terminal(with electron logo, of course). The girl put the card into a reader & then told me: the card doesen't work, have you got money on it? After a positive answer she tried it few times more, but no success.
I won't be contacting you because of this, because I think, that you can do nothing with it(there was no transaction made, so you can't see that I tried to pay something).
But some info for you: Aral gas stations(and some OMV's too) here in Czech Republic aren't accepting your card for some reason.

BRISK · 03-15-2003, 04:31 AM

It might have something to do with the specific banking systems in the Czech Republic and how they work with point of sale systems there.

If you want to get cash out of your epassporte account, just go to an ATM and use the card to withdraw cash than buy your gas with the cash.

Kimmykim · 03-15-2003, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by superweb
I won't be contacting you because of this, because I think, that you can do nothing with it(there was no transaction made, so you can't see that I tried to pay something).
But some info for you: Aral gas stations(and some OMV's too) here in Czech Republic aren't accepting your card for some reason.

It's possible we can see the attempt, if one was made -- if you want to contact me with your account name and the date of the trans and the amount, I'll be happy to look into it for you --

psyko514 · 03-15-2003, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by superweb
I won't be contacting you because of this, because I think, that you can do nothing with it(there was no transaction made, so you can't see that I tried to pay something).

If epassporte declined your transaction, they'll definetly have a record of that. If they don't have a record of it, then either the terminal at the gas station wasn't working or your card is demagnitized.

Lane · 03-15-2003, 09:40 AM

my paypal debitcard (mastercard) works just like a creditcard. no PIN required. and i can use it with PIN at any ATM to get cash too.

so epassporte doesnt do that?

Kimmykim · 03-15-2003, 09:43 AM

Nope Lane, epassporte's Electron card does not work like a credit card -- it functions as a debit card and must be used with a PIN based POS...

I realize your Paypal card works differently but then again Paypal is very different in one respect... they'll be happy to suspend your account and hold your money for no substantiated reason at any time... ;)

DjSap · 03-15-2003, 09:48 AM

Any plans for giving out real credit cards instead of electron?

And how about the possibilty to fund your epassporte account with paypal.

BRISK · 03-15-2003, 09:54 AM

The cards only work online for credit transactions, so there is no use for having the card in hardcopy form.

Kimmykim · 03-15-2003, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DjSap
Any plans for giving out real credit cards instead of electron?

And how about the possibilty to fund your epassporte account with paypal.

We don't have any plans at the moment to become a credit transaction instead of debit ---

And Paypal will have to support CVC/CVV2 in order to use those Mastercards to fund with... tho ACH funding is in the works right now ---

BRISK -- there are two different scenarios -- one being the online virtual transactions and the other being PIN based transactions with the card present -- two differently coded transactions entirely --

03-13-2003, 12:26 PM	#1
superweb Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 550	Thanks epassporte, "good" work I've filled my car by gas today & tried to pay with EP Electron card. How surprised I was, when the girl from the gas station told me, that my card is not working. I told her, that it's not possible(because there are about $300 on my account), so she tried it few times more. I had no cash to pay gas in my pocket, so I left my car audio front panel there, got back home, back to station & paid by my credit card. I lost about an hour by this. Thanks EP, keep up great work. __________________ <B><A HREF="http://www.webair.com/cgi-bin/in?136">Webair</A> - Virtual hosting from $9.95, dedicated from $119, complete paysite sollutions, reseller program. Most stable host ever!

03-13-2003, 12:42 PM	#3
ZoiNk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,370	It sounds like he was trying to use it at a non-pin based machine. Basically the electron card (from what I have heard) won't work on Regular transactions, just pin based ones like ATM (ABM for some of ya) machines. ZoiNk __________________ "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

03-15-2003, 04:20 AM	#8
superweb Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 550	I tried to use it at PIN based terminal(with electron logo, of course). The girl put the card into a reader & then told me: the card doesen't work, have you got money on it? After a positive answer she tried it few times more, but no success. I won't be contacting you because of this, because I think, that you can do nothing with it(there was no transaction made, so you can't see that I tried to pay something). But some info for you: Aral gas stations(and some OMV's too) here in Czech Republic aren't accepting your card for some reason. __________________ <B><A HREF="http://www.webair.com/cgi-bin/in?136">Webair</A> - Virtual hosting from $9.95, dedicated from $119, complete paysite sollutions, reseller program. Most stable host ever!

03-15-2003, 04:31 AM	#9
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	It might have something to do with the specific banking systems in the Czech Republic and how they work with point of sale systems there. If you want to get cash out of your epassporte account, just go to an ATM and use the card to withdraw cash than buy your gas with the cash. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

03-15-2003, 09:40 AM	#12
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	my paypal debitcard (mastercard) works just like a creditcard. no PIN required. and i can use it with PIN at any ATM to get cash too. so epassporte doesnt do that? __________________

03-13-2003, 12:33 PM	#2
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Your card should work at any PIN based transaction terminal. Can you do me a favor and email me the account name you use -- to [email protected] -- I'll be happy to find out what the issue is and let you know asap --

03-13-2003, 12:44 PM	#4
deathwish000 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 9	Epassporte dont work for gas or internet, only ATM.... for me that is.

03-13-2003, 01:04 PM	#5
LiveCam Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: on the sun Posts: 370	what's the point ?? ep , pay tyour gaz.. ?

03-15-2003, 09:43 AM	#13
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Nope Lane, epassporte's Electron card does not work like a credit card -- it functions as a debit card and must be used with a PIN based POS... I realize your Paypal card works differently but then again Paypal is very different in one respect... they'll be happy to suspend your account and hold your money for no substantiated reason at any time... ;)

03-15-2003, 09:48 AM	#14
DjSap Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,869	Any plans for giving out real credit cards instead of electron? And how about the possibilty to fund your epassporte account with paypal.

03-15-2003, 09:54 AM	#15
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	The cards only work online for credit transactions, so there is no use for having the card in hardcopy form. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.