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Biggy · 11-16-2014, 06:01 PM

The story is great. All it is... Is the truth coming out and it's not just a Fox News story, I don't read Fox News I saw it on CNN.

Obama lied. He promised everyone free candy to get elected. And it turns out candy can't just be given out for free. It costs money. The people who needed to eat the most candy couldn't get access to it because their ROI is negative, so in return people who don't really need candy had to pay more and people who didn't even want the candy because they didn't need it were forced to buy it to help pay for the others.

But he couldn't come out and say there would be winners and losers and really more losers so he lied and told everyone there would only be winners.

And gruber has now made it clear if they were honest people wouldn't vote to tax themselves, and that in general lack of transparency is an important tool for politicians. That no actually looks behind the curtain to see if people are actually telling the truth or just flat out taking their bullshit at face value.

Is he an arrogant piece of shit or is he just saying the truth? Or both? He isn't wrong, people are sheep, including many in this thread.

Baaaaaaaaah. Baaaaaaaaaah.

Biggy · 11-16-2014, 06:09 PM

If people understood how politicians get elected and how they rise through the political ladder, then they would understand how and why politicians for the most part are huge pieces of shit, on both sides of the aisle.

Career politicians are the worst. Knowing how to get elected doesn't translate into having a skill set in managing policy or other people, let alone monster inefficient government entities.

AmeliaG · 11-16-2014, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggy

The story is great. All it is... Is the truth coming out and it's not just a Fox News story, I don't read Fox News I saw it on CNN.

Obama lied. He promised everyone free candy to get elected. And it turns out candy can't just be given out for free. It costs money. The people who needed to eat the most candy couldn't get access to it because their ROI is negative, so in return people who don't really need candy had to pay more and people who didn't even want the candy because they didn't need it were forced to buy it to help pay for the others.

But he couldn't come out and say there would be winners and losers and really more losers so he lied and told everyone there would only be winners.

And gruber has now made it clear if they were honest people wouldn't vote to tax themselves, and that in general lack of transparency is an important tool for politicians. That no actually looks behind the curtain to see if people are actually telling the truth or just flat out taking their bullshit at face value.

Is he an arrogant piece of shit or is he just saying the truth? Or both? He isn't wrong, people are sheep, including many in this thread.

Baaaaaaaaah. Baaaaaaaaaah.

The problem is that this is not just something to take care of the needy.

Insurance costs more than healthcare.

The reason costs are going up so horribly is to make the insurance industry even richer.

Just taking care of everyone, America could have implanted single payer and saved money.

TheSquealer · 11-16-2014, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

The problem is that this is not just something to take care of the needy.

Insurance costs more than healthcare.

The reason costs are going up so horribly is to make the insurance industry even richer.

Just taking care of everyone, America could have implanted single payer and saved money.

Yup! Those greedy bastards and their 2-3% profit margins! Obscene.

AmeliaG · 11-16-2014, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Yup! Those greedy bastards and their 2-3% profit margins! Obscene.

That is precisely the problem.

Because insurance company margins are mandated to a limited %, the only way they increase profits is by increasing both gross revenues and total claim payouts.

So insurance companies have a vested interest in seeing healthcare costs go up.

ACA adding healthy people to the system means that the insurance companies need to pay out more on claims to meet their requirements, while growing their profits.

11-16-2014, 06:01 PM	#101
Biggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,595	The story is great. All it is... Is the truth coming out and it's not just a Fox News story, I don't read Fox News I saw it on CNN. Obama lied. He promised everyone free candy to get elected. And it turns out candy can't just be given out for free. It costs money. The people who needed to eat the most candy couldn't get access to it because their ROI is negative, so in return people who don't really need candy had to pay more and people who didn't even want the candy because they didn't need it were forced to buy it to help pay for the others. But he couldn't come out and say there would be winners and losers and really more losers so he lied and told everyone there would only be winners. And gruber has now made it clear if they were honest people wouldn't vote to tax themselves, and that in general lack of transparency is an important tool for politicians. That no actually looks behind the curtain to see if people are actually telling the truth or just flat out taking their bullshit at face value. Is he an arrogant piece of shit or is he just saying the truth? Or both? He isn't wrong, people are sheep, including many in this thread. Baaaaaaaaah. Baaaaaaaaaah.

11-16-2014, 06:09 PM	#102
Biggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,595	If people understood how politicians get elected and how they rise through the political ladder, then they would understand how and why politicians for the most part are huge pieces of shit, on both sides of the aisle. Career politicians are the worst. Knowing how to get elected doesn't translate into having a skill set in managing policy or other people, let alone monster inefficient government entities.