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Old 11-06-2014, 12:36 AM   #51
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Old 11-06-2014, 01:16 AM   #52
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I didn't know that. I'd really like to read more - especially a clarification of "shit". Can you link me to the source material your conclusion was based on? Seriously.
University of Southern California good enough for you?
https://news.usc.edu/67718/e-cigaret...-toxic-metals/


how about the FDA?
"the FDA found some samples contain carcinogens and other toxic chemicals. Using e-cigarettes can be like trading one deadly behavior for another."
taken from http://www.cancer.org/myacs/eastern/...ig-health-vote

Or the flavoured oils, maybe the butterscotch one, that got taken off the market cause it could cause popcorn lung.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasperha...g-up-in-smoke/

But hey vape away.. please. blow it on your kids/grandkids other peoples kids.

it's packed full of vitamins and good for you!

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The other thing of course is that it would be nice to support people that are trying to give up smoking - Show them some love...
You're just weak willed.

I've smoked for 25+ years, every couple of years I stop for a month, just to prove I can.
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Old 11-06-2014, 04:01 AM   #53
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etc.

peace.
your reading comprehension is awful
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Old 11-06-2014, 08:08 PM   #54
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University of Southern California good enough for you?
https://news.usc.edu/67718/e-cigaret...-toxic-metals/


how about the FDA?
"the FDA found some samples contain carcinogens and other toxic chemicals. Using e-cigarettes can be like trading one deadly behavior for another."
taken from http://www.cancer.org/myacs/eastern/...ig-health-vote
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.ca/...-no-cause.html

http://www.projectvape.com/what-is-v...nd-hand-vapor/

And the "carcinogens and other toxic chemicals" you mention in the FDA report - was a well-known, documented singular incident of an admittedly contaminated source sample - not reflective of typical nicotine e-juice.

At present, the $300+ million FDA study is still underway with no definitive or official conclusion either way.

E-juice is made up of only 5 natural ingredients:

water
vegetable glycerin (usually coconut or palm oil based - all-natural - completely non-toxic)
propylene glycol (a commonly used food additive and various medicines - like asthma inhalers)
natural or artificial flavouring
nicotine

If you can find carcinogens in the above ingredients - you best be banning a helluva lot more things in this world along with the e-cigs.

That said, don't get me wrong - I'm not adverse to reading/listening to everything I can about the pros/cons of vaping - but I do tend to filter out a lot of pseudo-factual sources that have flawed data and/or an obvious skewed agenda.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:24 AM   #55
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To be honest and blunt... I applaud the move to ban this from public places like any other cigarette or tobacco product.

There's a time and a place for everything and if someone wants to put chemicals into their body then go right ahead. But they don't need to be doing it in public toxifying and stinking up the air we all breath. And considering that most smokers took up the filthy habit because they witnessed adults doing it, then "vap" addicts shouldn't be doing it in front of impressionable young children.

Just like booze or porn.. Smoking and/or vaping should be confined to the privacy of someone's own home.

PS. I'm aware that cars and factories pollute which is why we lobby the government for tougher clean air laws.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:50 AM   #56
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man you gotta fucking reach deep inside your 'this is my offended cupboard' to get upset about the 'smell' of e-cigs.

My mum has asthma blahblah and can smell a cig at 2 miles, coughs her guts up if cigarette smoke is anywhere near her, and if she can be perfectly fine around ecig vapour, that tells me all I need to know about how 'bad' the smell of it is.

The smell of everyday traffic is worse, but I'd put my house on less than 0.001% of people who say ecig vapour affects them so much that they feel affected by it having the same viewpoint on 'forcing' everyone to smell their exhaust fumes.
Bingo!

Clean air fanatics remind me of those pesky born again types.
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