I agree 101% :thumbsup

LOL

:mad:

Why do people feel compelled to air their dirty laundry on the boards?

Drama like this is entertaining as hell but it is rather childish.

Sad as it is, sometimes it's the only way to receive what you're owed. People cherish their reputations, but for some reason neglect them away from the public eye...

Hey Snow, I've known you for a while and always stayed without passing a judgement on the grounds that you really did get fucked by other people and it was not your fault...

Hell, I know you since you got in this industry a few years ago...

But honestly, here, I think something is wrong.


I just read through it, and am wondering if you could explain something for me, because right now I don't see any sense in this all...


Regardless of if Amp comes to you, sends a bill, etc... you claimed he entered a contest... To me, a contest goes like it. You enter, you win, you Get something...


what did he get out of it? you're using his designs... no? then he has to get something out of it....


what is it that you claim he's won out of it... what were the terms of the contest?


To me, if the design is worth keeping, then regardless of any terms, I like to think that the designer deserves a little something ... otherwize it's not called a contest :)


lemme hear your story bro, cuz some things don't add up here...

Wasn't fair to attach an innocent parties name to things snow should take ownership of. Bad call on my part.

Now.... snow: Your mafia tours were NOT involved with any contest. Let's make that clear right now. It just happened to be that I was building your tour at the same time that MY design contest was going on, and so I used the mafia tour in the contest with your blessing. The tour was not a prize. The contest was not to design a mafiaporn tour. The contest and you were completely separate things.

Lest we be blurring reality here.

Might as well stop the whole 'it was a contest' line of reasoning right now, because one has nothing to do with the other.

for $1000 what I don't understand is why snow doesn't just give it to amp and be done with it regarless of right or wrong? That doesn't make sense to me? I'm sure this has cost snow more than $1000 in negative publicity.....mind you sometimes any publicity - even negative is good - so what do I know?


what I don't understand is why snow would receive the tour as a prize? please enlighten us - I'm a little dense and don't get that???


lol - looks like Amp is the real mafia guy here -
'PAY ME OR I'LL DESTROY YOU ON GFY"

At the risk of stating the obvious, some people simply don't have a thousand bucks laying around, Sleazy.

I have said my peace if you want to continue to rant go for it. I will stick to being professional and do what I need to do. You made that site on good faith to partner with me and to use my name for the contest END OF STORY.

You dissapper cause you get tied down with work and I dont hear form you. All of a sudden I owe you. I'm done with you and I will never deal with you again. I ICQed you and emailed you many times and then you have the adacity to talk smack about largecash. So you know what Burry youreself even deeper in a hole. You finally billed us today and you will be paid. I'm done talkinig about this. And mag I have known you for 4 years now.

And MafiaPorn will be Re-done again cause youre designs DONT CONVERT worth a shit ampass. Talk smack about pensfan but his designs work well. We had a agreement and I paid him every penny. Just like webInc and I paid them every penny UP FRONT, You seem to have problems with alot of people that arent talked about here. Good Luck

It's not the money It's how he conned me into paying him after he pulled out. HE IS A TRUE CONN ARTIST.

That's ok he will be paid now.. I'm done talking about him and so are alot of people that have been icquing me all day to not even awnser this clown.
I can post youre apology letter and all the ICQ's But I choose not too. I wont drop to youre level again.

Agreed! :thumbsup

i don't believe snow one meter anymore!!

sorry bro but I don't - it just dont add up!

Damn.

I thought i read somewhere that Amp was suppose to get a cut of the Mafiabucks profits but didn't?

I think its obvious Amp was promised something, then after the contest didnt get anything because Snow figures the publicity was enough, and whatever 'partner' deal he had went sour.

Thats the facts we are missing.

lol... sure
not much of a partnership when I get $0.
use your name??? ROFL!!!! Your name is worth fuckall. I did my part as your 'partner' to help boost your mafia stuff by using the tour in MY contest and attaching it to MY name you ass. Don't flatter yourself.

I have never disappeared. I'm always here.
thank god...
Largecash post coming next after this one... as for you snow, fuck off.
or maybe it's because you don't know the first fucking thing about running a successful program?
pensfan is a crook.
yeah... I'm the con artist. I do three fucking tours for you and then some, get no money for it whatsoever, and I'm the con artist.
yes, I will. But not by you.... isn't that right. Someone else is cleaning up your mess.
that's because you look more and more like an ass every time you open your mouth.
I helped you smooth all this shit out last time as a favor to you to try and stop some of the damage to your name.... because I was a fucking nice guy steve.

but not anymore.

I never have since the dialer fiasco he was involved in.

So if he partnered with you, why hasn't he received his % of the site?

btw, I think that was the other way around. Everyone was waiting to see what Amp would come up with that for contest. I think if anything, Mafiabucks got a huge boost because Amp used that design for the contest.

Doc & LargeCash:

you're a fucking stand up guy bro. Sorry you got stuck cleaning up snow's mess.

you're a good man Doc.... straight props to you and LargeCash. :thumbsup

You weren't around then. Or is this a freudian Pathfinder slip?

what the fuck is amatter with these people - send your wife out to work like I do!

LOL ooops

burn

I have been in the business for more than six years as I have repeatedly stated.

believe me.... it doesn't burn.

mmmk.

if the tour is no good snow, why have you been using them for 10 months now...

my guess is either they DO work, you can't afford new ones cuz you'll actually have to pay for them, or you're a complete idiot to keep running a non-converting tour....

so which is it?

I'd hit you down...

Snow, just because you work WITH professionals it does not mean you ARE a professional.

I see that The Doc is taking this matter the right way, but you...

you're not acting professional about it at all.

YOU should have been the one to say that you would pay him whether he was owed or not, NOT Largecash.

Amp let me know when youre payment goes through



some comments from others=

He's lucky to even be paid for his big fucking mouth. Dont give him a fucking dime snow he's nobody and had to be comped to afford to go to vegas.


I wouldn´t pay fuck ... let him keep your name up 24/7 ... best promo you can get ... compare webmaster signups from today ... to yesterday ... I am too sure today is significant higher.


Now that you paid him let's see who he picks on next rent..


He´s an attention whore snow and even if he´s the best designer in the industry (an opinion that I don´t share) I won´t give any business at all. he is a good designer......but not the best and his attitude is sickening. besides his shit doesnt convert.

Bro you been around longer he's a fly by night. If his shit is so good why cant he get a program going. He had 2 that failed one with pensfan..


The last laugh is on You BITCH...Later

you're an immature worthless fuck snow.

But congratulations... LargeCash just paid YOUR debt. Enjoy your tours.

one can only laugh @ snow and his fake "testimonials"...

wannabe gangster my azz!

I've made a small fortune with Amps designs.

I don't get it. Why were the designs up for 9 or 10 months if they don't convert?

This is making zero sense.

Another testimonial

He's a drunk fuck who thinks he's the shit because he almost has 20,000 posts on GFY, big fucking deal, Who is pathetic enough to get shitfaced and post on gfy about the most stupid shit ever, I have never seen him stop whining, he's just a big joke, but the bigger joke is, he doesnt realize it !


I paid you you WHINING FUCK.. Go back in youre Hole now...

please don't make me puke!

you paid nothing!

largecash did!

The design was up while the webmaster program was being re-coded. and I had all the tours rotating at one point to see which one did best and it turns out that the original did best but the webmasters wanted amp's tour so we kept it up.

What looks good doesnt necessarily mean it will do better.

ALL IT TOOK was an EMAIL and now he's paid. All of this drama is unnecessary. The bottom line is the fact that AMP did not COMMUNICATE and everyone on this board knows it..

Bottom line AMP if you want to run a business properly LEARN how to bill youre people.. But posting to GFY is WAY more important then actually running a design business. ANY sucessful design team doesn't post as much as you do cause there busy and dont have the time. Obviously YOURE NOT..

I thought large cash cleaned up your debt?

iam confused :Hollering

:1orglaugh what a joke

I don't!!

I mean I have done biz with amp on several occations and not hear from him in 10 months is impossible!

go DIG yourself a hole mate!