Shit that's a lot more than fair.

Good show Doc.

I WILL REPEAT MYSELF AGAIN...

Amp, this was a design contest, if you wanted to be paid for it then we should have talked about it rather than bashing me on the message boards. WIth bringing LargeCash in that is just wrong. LargeCash does not own MafiaBucks.

Contact me on ICQ and let's handle this in a professional maner.

Anyone want to fill outsiders in on the situation? What money does AMP claim Snow owes him?

:eek7 I remember threads from about 4 or 5 months ago that Snow was posting in,Amp would ask for payment and Snow would disappear... I don't give a fuck about either of you but you act like owing AMP money is something new...Get of your high horse brotha....It looks to me like he wants justice,not so much the money :2 cents: AND I'M OUT lol

What were the contest rules? Are the designs to be used? Any consideration given to the contest participants?

FMFAAO :1orglaugh

What does that mean?

Amp entered the mafiaPorn design in a contest.

Which then was pulled and he entered BlackButter (adult.com). Black Butter ruled as well.

I mean what did Lens not pay Amp for BlackButter because it was in a contest? No.

Of course he paid Amp, because the work is what the money is about. Not the contest.

Amp is owed. Bottom line.

:glugglug

What were the rules of the contest?

The issue is Amp build Snow some designs for that old design contest that went down on the message board.

Understand that I have not talked to Amp (about this deal) so I only have one side of the story. Amp built 2 paysite deisgns for a design contest and says that Snow owes him some money. How much I don't know but an ICQ I got from another webmaster said it was $1,000 US.

Snow, like myself and many others went through some hard times in the past. Snow has fixed these issues as much as one person can and in my eyes has taken MafiaBucks to a new level and done a fine job.

I have posted many times if anyone has an issue with me (or my companies) to e-mail, icq or call me. I can handle all issues and solve any problem before it has to goto the public bashing level.

Again, if Amp feels he wants to be paid then I will pay him.

AMP

When is it my turn? How long is the list ? Ill give you a chick if you bump me up on the list

Rules were.

a. Enter a kick ass design and get bragging rights.

b. to kick ass.

Which Amp did.

He won with 2 different designs, nad was never paid for one of them.

Thats about it.

burp.

Fletch

I Fed Ex'd you the anal soothing cream you wanted. It should be arriving today. Make sure you heat it up in the microwave first.

Nice man.

Anxious is an understatement.

So bottom line is: [cuz I didn't see "get paid" in the rules]

Designers compete with differing designs for the site, snow picked the winner, and its IMPLICITLY understood that winning designer gets paid.

If these are the facts then the guy is owed money

He never billed for them you Moron. and Never agreed to. get that through youre head. I'm done posting about this.. Mafia was a free design for the contest.

If Amp cant communicate it's not my problem nor thedoc's..

BYE

Somewhat, but it was just 'enter a kick ass design and let the people vote'

thats all it was.

Plenty of other designs were used by affiliate programs.
GammaCash had their teen Site in there (i think), and i think BoobDollars had a BigBoob site used.

At the time of the design contest many designers were too booked etc, so some used their current workload as an entry.

Then i guess SNow thought he didnt have to pay for the tour after the contest.

Thats why I say, did Lens not pay for http://www.blackbutter.com because it was entered? Did the designer of Gamma's WebYoung (i think) not get paid? Of course they did.

They should have been honored their tours were used as n entry and been glad for the exposure.

If it is 1k thats sad to see that someone cant pay a grand , i thought it was much more than that.

He was building many sites for lensman on contract at the time. That's irrelevant. Mafia was a free design for a contest END OF STORY...And Amp flaked on me cause he was too busy building for lens which is cool. But hey dont come back at me after you slow down and nail me for it. I'm done talking about this. It's really stupid.

Snow, shush before I reach through my computer and pop ya a virtual smack to the back of the head :)

It does not mater if he was or wasnt suppost to be paid. He feels at this moment that he does so we pay him.

Having larger known people bashing each other on a messageboard is both lame and very unprofessional. This is a business not a group of high school kids gathering around the flag pole at 3pm.

I agree doc but this approach was taken months ago. The issue here is drama and they love it here. I'm out. gonna stir up some galleries. Laterzzzzzzzz

No need to personally insult people. We're just participating in a discussion here to discuss facts and reputation issues that impact the webmaster community.

Well said TheDoc

Hehe. The Doc has my respect.

This guy knows how to run a business!

:1orglaugh

*makes a mental note to never do business with SNOW*

Definitely a true professional! :thumbsup

G the facts were posted months ago. I bash no one unless I'm bashed upon. Fletch does not know the details and it's irritating after he has seen them.

Again I'm out. do a search on the mafiaporn contest and read on the contest. And read the huge statement that amp made after bashing everyone and realising what he did. It's all drama and its old. I have said what i had to say and so did the doc. Thats it.

You said it, not me. This thread goes on [edited]'s reputation ranking list :thumbsup

Damn... TheDoc, you should hold seminars and get paid to bash this into people's heads, there are a lot of folks in this business who still haven't graduated from the "flag pole" mentality.
Your posts in this thread have been extremely professional. :thumbsup :thumbsup

same :Graucho

TheDoc = Class Act. :thumbsup

How could I have seen the details but not know them?

You dont make sense, and are just trying to discredit me, typical.

Wow. Never thought I'd see you say that!

Blah Blah Blah fucking Blah

Not at all Fletch.. Seriously. Alot of people jump the boat on certain issues. Alot of people like amp cause he's funny and entertaining and I respect that. Hey have fun that's what it's all about. But when false accusations are made and people start siding with other parties cause they dont know the details it's frustrating.

Here are the facts Fletch, and I have repeated myself numerous times. Sorry I called you a Moron but I don't feel I need to explain myself ONCE AGAIN.

STORY=
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=90503

never go into an agreement with someone based upon their word that they will take care of you and return a favor....

cash is king.

TheDoc, i quite strongly feel that large cash owes me $5,000. ICQ me for my paypal address. :winkwink:

I'm drunk. I will start cussing him out soon.