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Old 11-01-2014, 05:56 PM   #1
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:57 PM   #2
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:58 PM   #3
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Old 11-01-2014, 06:01 PM   #4
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Old 11-02-2014, 05:00 PM   #8
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Old 11-02-2014, 05:29 PM   #9
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Old 11-02-2014, 05:58 PM   #10
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nobody gives free money, rich earns them, same way as bottoms do not. People are not equal in capabilities, work etic and so on, so why should they have same income? Fucking communists trying to rip the hard working off (not talking about few shady ones, talking about 99% of rich who earned their money in a honest way).
Fucking leftist with their "punish the hard/smart workers" mentality.
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Old 11-02-2014, 06:41 PM   #11
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When talking about capitalism it is best not to mix up corporatism and capitalism, they are very different things. What we have in america now is corporatism. ie shitty companies stay in business and squash better startup companies with regulation because the government wants them to.
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Old 11-02-2014, 06:45 PM   #12
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nobody gives free money, rich earns them, same way as bottoms do not. People are not equal in capabilities, work etic and so on, so why should they have same income? Fucking communists trying to rip the hard working off (not talking about few shady ones, talking about 99% of rich who earned their money in a honest way).
Fucking leftist with their "punish the hard/smart workers" mentality.
For the most part you are correct. Someone who is smart, better, faster, more capable or more accomplished should be paid higher than someone who isn't. Someone who took a risk and started a business and worked their ass off should be rewarded accordingly for doing so. However, there are certain advantages our government gives you once you reach a certain level that can allow you to line your pockets for doing nothing.

Let's look back during the bank bailouts. The Fed was loaning money to big investment banks through their discount window at a rate that was so small it was almost non-existent. Those banks borrowed the money and used it to buy treasury bonds from the government that paid out an interest rate that was at least three times higher than the interest rate they were paying on the loan. So the bank got the money, bought the bonds then sold the bonds and repaid the loans and kept what was left as profit. So essentially the fed was selling a $1 bill to the banks for 97 cents then later buying it back from the bank at $1 or $1.01. Since these investments had a guaranteed returned rate there was no way the banks could lose. The fed gave out 7.7 trillion in these loans that accounted for roughly $10 billion in profit to the banks that received them. They could have saved a lot of time, effort and money had the government just wrote them a check for $10 billion.

Having access to that is something you or I don't have. We can't borrow money from the discount window. If we start a business and it fails, it goes out of business and we are shit out of luck. We don't get huge bailouts to keep us afloat

These are advantages that the top 1% have that the rest of the 99% don't.

I'm not saying most rich people don't deserve what they have nor am I saying they should be punished for being rich, but to say that nobody gives free money is just flat out wrong.
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For the most part you are correct. Someone who is smart, better, faster, more capable or more accomplished should be paid higher than someone who isn't. Someone who took a risk and started a business and worked their ass off should be rewarded accordingly for doing so. However, there are certain advantages our government gives you once you reach a certain level that can allow you to line your pockets for doing nothing.

Let's look back during the bank bailouts. The Fed was loaning money to big investment banks through their discount window at a rate that was so small it was almost non-existent. Those banks borrowed the money and used it to buy treasury bonds from the government that paid out an interest rate that was at least three times higher than the interest rate they were paying on the loan. So the bank got the money, bought the bonds then sold the bonds and repaid the loans and kept what was left as profit. So essentially the fed was selling a $1 bill to the banks for 97 cents then later buying it back from the bank at $1 or $1.01. Since these investments had a guaranteed returned rate there was no way the banks could lose. The fed gave out 7.7 trillion in these loans that accounted for roughly $10 billion in profit to the banks that received them. They could have saved a lot of time, effort and money had the government just wrote them a check for $10 billion.

Having access to that is something you or I don't have. We can't borrow money from the discount window. If we start a business and it fails, it goes out of business and we are shit out of luck. We don't get huge bailouts to keep us afloat

These are advantages that the top 1% have that the rest of the 99% don't.

I'm not saying most rich people don't deserve what they have nor am I saying they should be punished for being rich, but to say that nobody gives free money is just flat out wrong.
Those are the advantages the top 1% of the top 1% have. And maybe not even top 1% of the top 1%, but even less. I mean what is the number of people who borrow from fed at non existent rate?

99% of the top 1% are not like that

Ps: Lets not concentrate on top 1% only, the number of people that are hit by ridiculously high income taxing bracket is higher than just 1% of people.
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Old 11-02-2014, 07:16 PM   #14
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the most "free" money goes out in subsidies to companies that either have enough of their own money (oil etc) or companies that are kept alive artificially because without them they would go bankrupt (as they should if there was real capitalism)

you condemn people that receive a few bucks welfare and praise companies that blow billions of your tax money

that is weird
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