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Old 10-20-2014, 11:44 AM   #1
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Social Icons on a website

Do you think it is a good idea to have social icons on a website if no one is using your social media accounts?

I know of a site (no names named) that only has 5 followers on pinterest, 117 on twitter, 30 on instagram etc but has linked to these accounts in the footer of their site.

I think, and often consult this information, that if you have so few followers on something it is actually damaging to your brand to link to it, because it makes it look like no one is at all interested in you.

It would be better to wait until you have at least more followers than the fake accounts mocking you before you start promoting your social media.

What do you think?
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Old 10-20-2014, 12:20 PM   #2
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I think social media icons on porn sites are of limited value -- what are you going to post: Thanks for the good fap!

Do you have a few examples to prove me wrong?

For mainstream websites, affiliate websites or adult industry ''service (B2B)" websites it makes sense.

As for sparse comment or content social media sites, that is a good question, but you have to start somewhere I guess. Some good shilling (ghosting) is being missed ;)
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Does it help brand credibility/trust? Probably not.

But I do agree with the sentiment that you have to start somewhere :P.

Could also be an SEO play though (ie trying to rank those accounts quickly for all brand terms to build more targeted followers over the long term)

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We would wonder why only these small amounts are following on the social accounts
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We have no followers, but make use of recommend and share buttons. That works for us.
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I do this too and the first page I checked after putting "sex toys" into facebook has 7610 likes: https://www.facebook.com/cherrylusttoys

...sure others have way huge numbers.

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Do you think it is a good idea to have social icons on a website if no one is using your social media accounts?

I know of a site (no names named) that only has 5 followers on pinterest, 117 on twitter, 30 on instagram etc but has linked to these accounts in the footer of their site.

I think, and often consult this information, that if you have so few followers on something it is actually damaging to your brand to link to it, because it makes it look like no one is at all interested in you.

It would be better to wait until you have at least more followers than the fake accounts mocking you before you start promoting your social media.

What do you think?
I agree. Unless you're already well established on your social media accounts, linking to them is essentially a traffic leak.
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Social media is supposed to drive traffic to your site not vice versa. Most people aren't going to like or follow you on their real account because their friends and family would see.

I would only link to it if I wanted to prove authority. 5 followers on pinterest, 117 on twitter, 30 on instagram would prove your site is unpopular.
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the social buttons are looking good on sites, and people know them, so i am using them, just for design and user friendly purposes
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the social buttons are looking good on sites, and people know them, so i am using them, just for design and user friendly purposes
I will try putting the buttons without links.

surfer reaction: This porn site is on facebook? I trust them, here is my credit card.
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Do you think it is a good idea to have social icons on a website if no one is using your social media accounts?

I know of a site (no names named) that only has 5 followers on pinterest, 117 on twitter, 30 on instagram etc but has linked to these accounts in the footer of their site.

I think, and often consult this information, that if you have so few followers on something it is actually damaging to your brand to link to it, because it makes it look like no one is at all interested in you.

It would be better to wait until you have at least more followers than the fake accounts mocking you before you start promoting your social media.

What do you think?
Just put them on your own sites and post back your results.

Ever heard of fiverr btw? Great way to pay $5 and get a shit ton of social media likage...
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Hi Damian, wonderful to hear from you as always!

The idea behind the social sites is the same as it was when I responded about this in May here: https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20078527&postcount=11

We aren't trying to flood the board with non-industry participants. There is no value in having thousands of surfers 'like' or 'follow' our GFY social media accounts. While you may believe that this is indicative of failure, we see first hand the positive impact utilizing social media has had on the board. We would prefer to have a handful of interested industry participants than a million useless surfer followers. Quality, not quantity.

I do find it a bit amusing that it interests you so much though.
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^^I have heard damianj has no adult sites that make money... just sayin'
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^^I have heard damianj makes no money... just sayin'
Fixed that for you
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Fixed that for you
It says on fb that 10 people paid £10 to see his performance. That's £100 and he only had to split it with one guy. If we assume he sold all 40 tickets then he made nearly half of £400. What's that like $325 - not bad for playing with a bunny puppet and making stupid faces.
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Fixed that for you
I have read that he cannot pay his bills. I have also read that his new wife is his sugar daddy... ermmm... mommy.... erm... significant other.

What are we talking about again?
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Ever heard of fiverr btw? Great way to pay $5 and get a shit ton of social media likage...
Yep. I always start my accounts by buying a few thousand followers from Fiverr. Remember, no one wants to be the first. But if you already have quite a few followers, it lends social proof to your account. If so many already follow you, then the sheep follow the flock.

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If we assume he sold all 40 tickets then he made nearly half of £400. What's that like $325
You flunked first grade maths, right?
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Hi Damian, wonderful to hear from you as always!

The idea behind the social sites is the same as it was when I responded about this in May here: https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20078527&postcount=11

We aren't trying to flood the board with non-industry participants. There is no value in having thousands of surfers 'like' or 'follow' our GFY social media accounts. While you may believe that this is indicative of failure, we see first hand the positive impact utilizing social media has had on the board. We would prefer to have a handful of interested industry participants than a million useless surfer followers. Quality, not quantity.

I do find it a bit amusing that it interests you so much though.
Why even reply to the guy? Keep on doing what you are doing

Oh and Damian, since you are such a marketing genius, how about running us through one success you have had online?
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Organic development is best. Buying followers can often buy you trouble from India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Korea, Russia and deadbeat trolls...

Make your social media accounts as interesting as you can. Actually log in and interact with people instead of just spamming links. It works to engage the community you are working with.

I respect Damian Jennings tenacious efforts to come off like an asshat by attacking people sideways, creating controversy where there is none and for going outdoors without a chin.
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Organic development is best. Buying followers can often buy you trouble from India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Korea, Russia and deadbeat trolls...

Make your social media accounts as interesting as you can. Actually log in and interact with people instead of just spamming links. It works to engage the community you are working with.
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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I have read that he cannot pay his bills. I have also read that his new wife is his sugar daddy... ermmm... mommy.... erm... significant other.

What are we talking about again?
Hi Refund! Back again?
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Hi Damian, wonderful to hear from you as always!
Good good!

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We aren't trying to flood the board with non-industry participants.
Didn't suggest you should. How would that be a good idea?

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There is no value in having thousands of surfers 'like' or 'follow' our GFY social media accounts.
Didn't suggest there was, I'd recommend having B2B followers on a B2B board.

How many people were in Amsterdam? You know, those guys. The people in the industry. Getting them to follow you would be where I'd start. The people here, get them too.

But you need to make something interesting to get them to follow you.

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, we see first hand the positive impact utilizing social media has had on the board.
Heh. Sure. I bet those 5 followers on your pinterest are really ramping up the ad impressions.

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We would prefer to have a handful of interested industry participants than a million useless surfer followers. Quality, not quantity.
I am not suggesting you get porn surfers, but B2B users. Having the tiny amount that you have, and advertising that fact, makes it seem you're irrelevant to the industry and don't get social media.

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I do find it a bit amusing that it interests you so much though.
I find it amusing you get *paid* to not get social media. So good we're both amusing each other

Ta ta.
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The two aren't mutually exclusive.
I admit I must agree with you.
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I would sincerely like to take this time and figure out what in the world you are asking.

Any exposure is good exposure from my experience. You can easily manipulate all social media stats to make your site(s) look popular in each respective media. So the answer is of course add them.

But my second question is... why are you obsessed with myjah and specifically her role with gfy? That really is the underlying question I have to your rhetoric and non sense.

"language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content."
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But my second question is... why are you obsessed with myjah and specifically her role with gfy? That really is the underlying question I have to your rhetoric and non sense.

"language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content."
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You flunked first grade maths, right?
I think you misread it. 1/2 of £400 = £200 = ~325 USD

He only gets half because he is performing with another guy.

"...headlining is the very special guest Tony Sagittarius - the world's sexiest mind reader."

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I wouldn't dismiss what Damian Jennings says about marketing so quickly, because what he knows would surely fill a whole postage stamp.
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I think you misread it. 1/2 of £400 = £200 = ~325 USD
You're right, my bad. My apologies.
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Do you think it is a good idea to have social icons on a website if no one is using your social media accounts?

I know of a site (no names named) that only has 5 followers on pinterest, 117 on twitter, 30 on instagram etc but has linked to these accounts in the footer of their site.

I think, and often consult this information, that if you have so few followers on something it is actually damaging to your brand to link to it, because it makes it look like no one is at all interested in you.

It would be better to wait until you have at least more followers than the fake accounts mocking you before you start promoting your social media.

What do you think?
I think you really know jack shit about social media!
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WTF, is it Easter already?!?
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I think you really know jack shit about social media!
Explain how having a link to 5 Pinterest followers is good.

I dare you.

But won't hold my breath.

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I think you misread it. 1/2 of £400 = £200 = ~325 USD

He only gets half because he is performing with another guy.

"...headlining is the very special guest Tony Sagittarius - the world's sexiest mind reader."
I was the other guy you flid.

So 10 quid a ticket. 60 seats a night. Two nights. Just shy of $2k. Minus $150 room hire.

For two hours work doing my hobby.

When was the last time you were paid for wanking?

Been booked to lecture and perform the act at the famous international magic convention in London in November.

Thanks for your interest though

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I was the other guy you flid.

So 10 quid a ticket. 60 seats a night. Two nights. Just shy of $2k. Minus $150 room hire.

For two hours work doing my hobby.

When was the last time you were paid for wanking?

Been booked to lecture and perform the act at the famous international magic convention in London in November.

Thanks for your interest though

And awful maths
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That's not what it says on facebook. "Only 40 tickets available for each performance, so get booking!"

It says 10 people went out of 56 that were invited to see Damian Jennings and Tony Sagittarius. It would be proper stupid if you were headlining yourself.
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That's not what it says on facebook. "Only 40 tickets available for each performance, so get booking!"

It says 10 people went out of 56 that were invited to see Damian Jennings and Tony Sagittarius. It would be proper stupid if you were headlining yourself.
$5 turns into 500K at a turn of the hand. He is a wizard at making mad cash... what I don't understand is why myjah does not hire him immediately to help the gfy campaign?
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I was the other guy you flid.

So 10 quid a ticket. 60 seats a night. Two nights. Just shy of $2k. Minus $150 room hire.

For two hours work doing my hobby.

When was the last time you were paid for wanking?

Been booked to lecture and perform the act at the famous international magic convention in London in November.

Thanks for your interest though

And awful maths
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60 seats? maximum 40 bookings though Damian? You little liar

& we're paid for wanking all the time

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That's not what it says on facebook. "Only 40 tickets available for each performance, so get booking!"
That's called MARKETING. You make it look like there is less space to establish demand. Top stalking though. Look at the video, look like 10 people to you? If so, you are worse at maths than you are at stalking.

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It's so cute you try. Really.

Here's me as the opening act.



and here's me as tony sag headlining



It was a *one man show*. Bless you though.

You're cute. I mean, I know you're just pissed I earned more money dicking about with a deck of cards for an hour for two nights that you made in the last month, so I get why you've got such a little angry twig of a hard on for me, but try THINKING before you post. Look in the audience. Count the people. Listen the the laughter and applause. When was the last time you did anything, ANYTHING that made people that happy?



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Old 10-23-2014, 11:10 AM   #40
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60 seats? maximum 40 bookings though Damian? You little liar :wink wink:
Yes, look at the video Gary. 60 people, two nights. I made more in two hours work than you make in a week of you whoring out your wife for bareback sex at £50 a punt. Sucks to be you.

Calling me a liar is funny though, seeing as you are lying about being your wife. Zounds, the irony.

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& we're paid for wanking all the time :wink wink:
Yeah, but you are paid a pittance and it's literally the only thing you're good at. With your tiny, stubby little cock.

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Good show old chap
Yeah, it was. So good I've been invited to perform at the famous International Magic Convention in london next month, been booked for a lecture tour round Ireland and am meeting next week with a TV production company.

And this is just for my HOBBY.

You stick to whoring out your wife, make the money before she's too old to support you.

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While adding feeder followers at the start is easy and cheap... having someone like Lauren at 7veils manage your social media presence is a much better method of building engagement.
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While adding feeder followers at the start is easy and cheap... having someone like Lauren at 7veils manage your social media presence is a much better method of building engagement.
Yup, which is why I just hired her for a client
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Old 10-23-2014, 12:58 PM   #43
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I don't understand is why myjah does not hire him immediately to help the gfy campaign?
The second quote answers the first quote.
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Yes, look at the video Gary. 60 people, two nights. I made more in two hours work than you make in a week of you whoring out your wife for bareback sex at £50 a punt. Sucks to be you living in Spain with the lovely warm sun & enjoying your life every day

Calling me a liar is funny though, seeing as you are lying about being your wife. Zounds, the irony.

Yeah, but you are paid a pittance and it's literally the only thing you're good at. With your tiny, stubby little cock.

You stick to whoring out your wife, make the money before she's too old to support you.
First you lie, then you lie & then again, you lie.

Gary does not whore me out, this is my choice. I've made more money in a day than you could imagine! Party & enjoying my time with Gary, a fun & confident man that doesn't need to make joke of another mans cock. lol you had to try to bring up the size of a mans cock, why, have you been looking at it. You did say you wonder about him wearing panties

We make a great living on cam, with him wanking his average sized cock over me if not fucking. We also have plenty of careers behind us both, not having to be in adult, but both enjoying it, so continue making new content on a weekly basis.

Besides all this, with a production company & other things going on, other than a weekend break away with us both enjoying drink, food & sex Mini breaks for the discerning gentleman

So no need to keep probing at us, it's you that's bullshitting people on a daily basis
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That's called MARKETING. You make it look like there is less space to establish demand. Top stalking though. Look at the video, look like 10 people to you? If so, you are worse at maths than you are at stalking.
The company's facebook page makes you look undesirable. Maybe gfy is using your marketing strategy to make it look like no one is interested in this place.

I don't care if you made £400 or £40000. I'm still laughing at you broski.
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So no need to keep probing at us......
He needs somebody to probe, might as well be you since you keep engaging with him. As long as you acknowledge his existence, he'll never go away. Block him and ignore him and *poof*, like magic, he disappears from your life (no pun intended)
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Is it a safe assumption that DamianJ knows jack shit about social media?

What is this shit all about btw?

"Finally, Damian J. has overstepped the mark in releasing MY effect, "DICKWANKERED" as "COCKWANKED", which is clearly an infringement of copyright. I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE MR SUSSEX GOAT, AND I'LL HOUND YOU TO THE END OF THE FREAKING PLANET!!"

http://barry-solayme.blogspot.com/20...1_archive.html

scroll down about half way
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Is it a safe assumption that DamianJ knows jack shit about social media?

What is this shit all about btw?

"Finally, Damian J. has overstepped the mark in releasing MY effect, "DICKWANKERED" as "COCKWANKED", which is clearly an infringement of copyright. I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE MR SUSSEX GOAT, AND I'LL HOUND YOU TO THE END OF THE FREAKING PLANET!!"

http://barry-solayme.blogspot.com/20...1_archive.html

scroll down about half way
He stole his mentor's tricks. Fucking pirate.

http://barry-solayme.blogspot.com/se...ian%20Jennings
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He stole his mentor's tricks. Fucking pirate.

http://barry-solayme.blogspot.com/se...ian%20Jennings
From that blog... it does seem that DamianJ has some enemies and that he stole some acts from colleagues. I suppose he will just vindicate it as rogue magicians or something...
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oops... never mind. I have been reminded that stealing is just "adapt or die"... carry on broskies ;)
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