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  • BlackCrayon
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jun 2003
    • 19634
    #1

    is my hard drive failing?

    my computer started to freeze up and then restarted itself and went into checkdisk and said

    truncating badly linked attribute records from file record segement 139805. it went through the checkdisk and restarted. i checked to see if C was dirty but it said it wasn't. should i be worried?
    you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..
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    • bronco67
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      • Dec 2006
      • 29032
      #2
      I wouldn't put my trust in that drive anymore.

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        • Darkcrni
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2007
          • 1704
          #3
          Make a backup, try reformatting hdd and put new win.

          If you still have the same problems, buy new hdd!

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            • BlackCrayon
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jun 2003
              • 19634
              #4
              i was actually in the process of buying a new computer anyways

              do you think its stupid to have 1 regular hard drives and 1 ssd? is that pointless?
              you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                • WDF
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2248
                  #5
                  No, SSD for OS boot.

                  HDD is used for data and storage.
                  Please HELP

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                    • iSpyCams
                      Amateur Gynecologist
                      • May 2009
                      • 4436
                      #6
                      Originally posted by WDF
                      No, SSD for OS boot.

                      HDD is used for data and storage.
                      Yep. Just remember to check it regularly. Don't expect to get more than 2-3 years out of a drive, I just had my data drive fail and I didn't notice it going out cause I don't boot from there so I didn't see how long the seek times were getting.

                      I managed to save the data in time but felt dumb I didn't see that coming, drive was over 3 years old and should have been replaced long ago.
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                        • BlackCrayon
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 19634
                          #7
                          Originally posted by pompousjohn
                          Yep. Just remember to check it regularly. Don't expect to get more than 2-3 years out of a drive, I just had my data drive fail and I didn't notice it going out cause I don't boot from there so I didn't see how long the seek times were getting.

                          I managed to save the data in time but felt dumb I didn't see that coming, drive was over 3 years old and should have been replaced long ago.
                          i've never had a drive fail *knock on wood* this one is almsot 6 years old..
                          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                            • InfoGuy
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                              • Apr 2010
                              • 3052
                              #8
                              It sounds like a failing drive to me. Stop using it immediately. Get a replacement HDD and backup your data ASAP. When it comes to hard drives, spare no expense and go with the best ... Western Digital Black. Avoid Seagate, it's crap.
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                                • _Richard_
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                                  • Oct 2006
                                  • 30991
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                  i've never had a drive fail *knock on wood* this one is almsot 6 years old..
                                  i thought HD only have a 10 year life? max?

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                                    • sandman!
                                      Icq: 14420613
                                      • Mar 2001
                                      • 15431
                                      #10
                                      someone lied to you.

                                      Originally posted by _Richard_
                                      i thought HD only have a 10 year life? max?
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                                        • BlackCrayon
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 19634
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by _Richard_
                                          i thought HD only have a 10 year life? max?
                                          i don't know but my girlfriends piece of crap desktop is nearly 10 years old. my parents have some ancient windows 95 system they still use, god knows how old that thing is.
                                          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                            • iSpyCams
                                              Amateur Gynecologist
                                              • May 2009
                                              • 4436
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                              i don't know but my girlfriends piece of crap desktop is nearly 10 years old. my parents have some ancient windows 95 system they still use, god knows how old that thing is.
                                              Well if each sector is the size of a nickel it might be pretty sturdy, who knows.
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                                                • MiamiBoyz
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                                                  • Oct 2012
                                                  • 6690
                                                  #13
                                                  A hard drive can fail at ANY TIME from the day you buy the computer on. I have drives that are 15 years old and still function. I don't use them for anything important of course.

                                                  Backing up is essential because it's only a matter of time...they all fail simply because they have mechanical parts. Hell, even ram can fail and it's totally electronic.

                                                  The price of SSDs is going down all the time and just as ram used to be very $$$ it's dirt cheap...so too will SSDs follow the same trend. I saw a 1 gig SSD for $475 being advertised on Amazon so that shows you how much they have come down already.

                                                  Soon the hd as we know it will only be used in 3rd world countries and the SSD will to standard in all computers.

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                                                    • BlackCrayon
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                      • 19634
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by InfoGuy
                                                      It sounds like a failing drive to me. Stop using it immediately. Get a replacement HDD and backup your data ASAP. When it comes to hard drives, spare no expense and go with the best ... Western Digital Black. Avoid Seagate, it's crap.
                                                      i always use wd but is blue any good?
                                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                        • JustDaveXxx
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                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 4111
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by WDF
                                                          No, SSD for OS boot.

                                                          HDD is used for data and storage.
                                                          Thats my set up. So fast, so clean, no failure.



                                                          I also have a 5 bay raid system, 3 tars per bay hooked up with a thunderbolt cable.


                                                          Very solid, very reliable.


                                                          Keep in mind, i can't got to my clients and give the; "My hard drive with all of you content crashed, sorry dude". That one instance would murder my name and reputation.



                                                          I run a Mac OSx system. I also have a raid system 5 bay fire wire 800 and a 5 bay raid system networked with its own IP addy so I can access it and move what ever to where ever from anywhere.


                                                          Seems like overkill, but I have heard serious hard drive crash horror stories that i could not afford.



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                                                            • WDF
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2013
                                                              • 2248
                                                              #16
                                                              If your data is worth anything to you there is no such thing as overkill when it comes to redundancy and hardware.
                                                              Please HELP

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                                                                • DamianJ
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                                                                  • Jul 2006
                                                                  • 15808
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Two types of people in the world. Those that have had a hard drive fail on them and those thatcher going to have a hard drive fail on them.

                                                                  I have a dupe of my drive on an external drive and a copy and f that on another external drive and that is also backed up in the cloud using crash plan. As hdds are so cheap nowadays I have no idea why people don't back up properly.

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                                                                    • BlackCrayon
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 19634
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by MiamiBoyz
                                                                      A hard drive can fail at ANY TIME from the day you buy the computer on. I have drives that are 15 years old and still function. I don't use them for anything important of course.

                                                                      Backing up is essential because it's only a matter of time...they all fail simply because they have mechanical parts. Hell, even ram can fail and it's totally electronic.

                                                                      The price of SSDs is going down all the time and just as ram used to be very $$$ it's dirt cheap...so too will SSDs follow the same trend. I saw a 1 gig SSD for $475 being advertised on Amazon so that shows you how much they have come down already.

                                                                      Soon the hd as we know it will only be used in 3rd world countries and the SSD will to standard in all computers.
                                                                      i thought the problem with ssd is that it can only be written to a x number of times before it fails?
                                                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                        • GAMEFINEST
                                                                          Make STACK$
                                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                                          • 14477
                                                                          #19
                                                                          get a new comp
                                                                          Compound interest.

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                                                                            • _Richard_
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Oct 2006
                                                                              • 30991
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by sandman!
                                                                              someone lied to you.
                                                                              as in too much or too little?

                                                                              quick google shows something like 5 years before failure becomes constant.. but that seems really short

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                                                                                • bronco67
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                                  • 29032
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                  i don't know but my girlfriends piece of crap desktop is nearly 10 years old. my parents have some ancient windows 95 system they still use, god knows how old that thing is.
                                                                                  A drive can last 1 day or 10 years...it can be a crapshoot. If you've ever seen the mechanics of what goes on inside, you'd realize its a miracle it works for any amount of time.

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                                                                                    • Klen
                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                      • 32235
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Possible how hard drive is failing but it could be also failing power supply - failing hard drive and bad power supply are usually connected as one thing lead to another scenario.

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                                                                                        • BlackCrayon
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                          • 19634
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                          A drive can last 1 day or 10 years...it can be a crapshoot. If you've ever seen the mechanics of what goes on inside, you'd realize its a miracle it works for any amount of time.
                                                                                          no doubt. i will admit i am lazy and never really made a real back up. i would just copy files to external hard drives. my new computer will have 2 drives, one main drive and another that will (hopefully) auto back up every 12-24 hours as well as use an external drive for an additional backup.

                                                                                          so what are so good (possibly free) backup software programs?
                                                                                          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                            • bronco67
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                                                              • 29032
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                              no doubt. i will admit i am lazy and never really made a real back up. i would just copy files to external hard drives. my new computer will have 2 drives, one main drive and another that will (hopefully) auto back up every 12-24 hours as well as use an external drive for an additional backup.

                                                                                              so what are so good (possibly free) backup software programs?
                                                                                              I use Acronis Backup, and its worth the 50 bucks to have peace of mind.

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                                                                                                • chaze
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                  • 9774
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                  my computer started to freeze up and then restarted itself and went into checkdisk and said

                                                                                                  truncating badly linked attribute records from file record segement 139805. it went through the checkdisk and restarted. i checked to see if C was dirty but it said it wasn't. should i be worried?
                                                                                                  Yep your drive failed but fixed itself.

                                                                                                  It could go forever but 90% of the time when this happens it's on the way out. Should have about 2 days to 6 months.
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                                                                                                    • InfoGuy
                                                                                                      80/20 Rule
                                                                                                      • Apr 2010
                                                                                                      • 3052
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                      i always use wd but is blue any good?
                                                                                                      It's not as good, which is why I only buy WD Black. Maybe some others can comment on what brands / models of HDD they use and their experiences with them.
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                                                                                                        • anexsia
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • May 2010
                                                                                                          • 5735
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by pompousjohn
                                                                                                          Yep. Just remember to check it regularly. Don't expect to get more than 2-3 years out of a drive, I just had my data drive fail and I didn't notice it going out cause I don't boot from there so I didn't see how long the seek times were getting.

                                                                                                          I managed to save the data in time but felt dumb I didn't see that coming, drive was over 3 years old and should have been replaced long ago.
                                                                                                          ? Both of my SSD drives are still going strong after 2+ years...Crucial m4 and a Corsair Neutron. An SSD failure rate like you talk about was only for the earlier ones...SSDs nowadays last quite awhile.

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                                                                                                            • PAR
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • May 2005
                                                                                                              • 1835
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by InfoGuy
                                                                                                              It sounds like a failing drive to me. Stop using it immediately. Get a replacement HDD and backup your data ASAP. When it comes to hard drives, spare no expense and go with the best ... Western Digital Black. Avoid Seagate, it's crap.
                                                                                                              So agree with this.. And when you buy 1 drive buy 2 (2nd one you can keep around as a backup drive should the first 1 die...
                                                                                                              Always have a way to backup your drive. At the first sign of an issue backup.
                                                                                                              You could also setup a home NAS (personal cloud) that backs up your files for you should your drive go south. You can restore from the backup image.

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                                                                                                                • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                  • 19634
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                                  I use Acronis Backup, and its worth the 50 bucks to have peace of mind.
                                                                                                                  yeah seems worth it. is it easy to pull individual files from the back up or is it really one geared for a complete restore?
                                                                                                                  you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                                    • dichotomy
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                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                      • 135
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      get a new SSD... well worth $$$
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                                                                                                                        • sandman!
                                                                                                                          Icq: 14420613
                                                                                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                          • 15431
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          blue is ok black is better.

                                                                                                                          when it comes to wd its

                                                                                                                          green
                                                                                                                          blue
                                                                                                                          black

                                                                                                                          first being the cheapest last being the most expensive.


                                                                                                                          Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                          i always use wd but is blue any good?
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                                                                                                                            • bronco67
                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                              • 29032
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                              yeah seems worth it. is it easy to pull individual files from the back up or is it really one geared for a complete restore?
                                                                                                                              Depends on whether you do differential or incremental backup. What I like about it is the customization options when you set a task so you can exclude file types or over a certain size --- which I'm sure most backup softwares probably do.

                                                                                                                              The last time I had to retrieve something, it took longer than I wanted but that file was going to make or break a large paycheck.

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                                                                                                                                • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 19634
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by sandman!
                                                                                                                                  blue is ok black is better.

                                                                                                                                  when it comes to wd its

                                                                                                                                  green
                                                                                                                                  blue
                                                                                                                                  black

                                                                                                                                  first being the cheapest last being the most expensive.
                                                                                                                                  well if black is more reliable, that's what i'll go with.
                                                                                                                                  you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                                                    • robwod
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                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                                      • 2540
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      I am pretty anal about Hard Drives and backups. I have 4 HDD in my tower, two of which are mirrors of the two primary drives. Each night, both of those drives are incrementally backed up to an external hard drive -- on Saturdays, this drive is backed up to a primary NAS drive. And then every Sunday, the primary NAS drive is backed up to a secondary NAS drive.

                                                                                                                                      It's easy enough with GoodSync: http://www.goodsync.com/

                                                                                                                                      With respect to my main tower, I assign my HDD a 1yr active life -- a depreciation lifespan if you will. I swap my drives out every 6 months, and have for about 15 years. The two primary drives become the two mirror drives after 6 months. And two new main drives are added. After 1 year, the secondary drives are put out to pasture, so to speak, and are used in non-essential things like home media servers, archive storage, etc.

                                                                                                                                      Suffice it to say, I have a LOT of hard drives sitting on the shelves after all these years.

                                                                                                                                      regarding brand, I too am a fan of WD Black. However, I have to say I have never once had a Seagate drive fail. Neither has any WD drive failed. Quantum were a personal favourite years ago as well. The drives that did fail over the years were brands like Maxtor, Hitachi, Fujitsu and some others. Having said that, the quality of Seagate, in my opinion, has dropped noticeably in the last 4 or 5 years, and now I am WD Black exclusively at this point in time. It's just worth the money.
                                                                                                                                      Last edited by robwod; 10-10-2014, 05:08 PM.
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                                                                                                                                        • dichotomy
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                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 135
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by robwod
                                                                                                                                          I am pretty anal about Hard Drives and backups. I have 4 HDD in my tower, two of which are mirrors of the two primary drives. Each night, both of those drives are backed up, incrementally to an external hard drive. And then every Sunday, the external is backed up to a NAS drive.

                                                                                                                                          It's easy enough with GoodSync: http://www.goodsync.com/

                                                                                                                                          With respect to my main tower, I giver my HDD a 1yr active life. I swap my drives out every 6 months, and have for about 15 years. The two primary drives become the two mirror drives after 6 months. And two new main drives are added. After 1 year, the secondary drives are put out to pasture, so to speak, and are used in non-essential things like home media servers, archive storage, etc.

                                                                                                                                          Suffice it to say, I have a LOT of hard drives sitting on the shelves after all these years.

                                                                                                                                          regarding brand, I too am a fan of WD Black. However, I have to say I have never once had a Seagate drive fail. Neither has any WD drive failed. Quantum were a personal favourite years ago as well. The drives that did fail over the years were brands like Maxtor, Hitachi, Fujitsu and some others. Having said that, the quality of Seagate, in my opinion, has dropped noticeably in the last 4 or 5 years, and now I am WD Black exclusively at this point in time. It's just worth the money.
                                                                                                                                          yeah, I have same bad karma when it comes to HDD's... try SSD - kinda solved that problem for me so far *knock on the wood.. and yes, weekly backups to cloud/external drives is a norm...
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