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|  09-12-2014, 11:29 AM | #1 | 
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				Bonnie Rotten suing Max Hardcore
			 For Slander/libel according to couirt docs she is asking 50K in damages story at http://www.mikesouth.com Ive dug in a bit and while you would think it would be as simple as referring to the model release...it isnt. More as I get it...despite what courtroom news says the case was filed this year Defendant(s) FILM WEST PRODUCTION LITTLE PAUL F MAX HARDCORETV COM Activity Date: 5/7/2014 Participant: HICKS ALAINA LIBEL/SLANDER COMPLAINT FILED Court Fee: 337.00 Ad Damnum Amount: 50000.00 Attorney: BRUSTEIN ABRAHAM E 
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|  09-12-2014, 11:47 AM | #2 | 
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				 | Make it 150K  50K on each of 3 counts claims she never signed a model release new info I just found 
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|  09-12-2014, 11:59 AM | #3 | |
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|  09-12-2014, 12:02 PM | #4 | 
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				 | Paully?? | 
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|  09-12-2014, 12:10 PM | #5 | 
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				 | Paul wouldn't say something like that without proof. Would he? 
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|  09-12-2014, 07:27 PM | #6 | 
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				 | That girl uhhhh... has issues. | 
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|  09-12-2014, 08:02 PM | #7 | 
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				 | I fucked Rachel Rotten few years ago. | 
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|  09-12-2014, 09:38 PM | #8 | 
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				 | I don't see any mention of a counter suit in your article Mike. Anyways, does anybody here really think after 2500 scenes Max didn't get a model release? I shouldn't be commenting on pending litigation but she done fucked up bringing this law suit. I hope she's saving her pennies. Trying to extort money like this could be very costly not to mention the amount of work she'll lose when all the studio's out there see what they're up against by hiring her. Oh and by the way the model release has already been submitted to the courts. Her council's response was to ask for a postponement. 
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|  09-12-2014, 09:42 PM | #9 | 
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				 | Good luck to the winners? 
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|  09-12-2014, 09:59 PM | #10 | 
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				 | Hmmmmm, 21 year-old porn actress vs. Max, who's been through the legal ringer in the past and is probably even more careful to dot the i's and cross the t's. Max Hardcore for the win. | 
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|  09-12-2014, 10:06 PM | #11 | |
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|  09-12-2014, 10:18 PM | #12 | |
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 Edit: They give injunctions based on one sides complaint. 
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|  09-12-2014, 10:33 PM | #13 | |
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|  09-12-2014, 10:34 PM | #14 | 
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				 | Max has BTS video of her signing the release. It's all over the web. When it comes to paperwork, Max is airtight. Any of his former colleagues will tell you that: Zane, Legend, etc. 
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|  09-12-2014, 11:35 PM | #15 | 
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				 | Here's a link to Bonnie's interview with Xcritic a week after the scene with her in Vegas for the AEE 2012 with Max. http://www.xcritic.com/columns/column.php?columnID=3020 
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|  09-13-2014, 12:03 AM | #16 | 
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				 | Here's an interview at the AEE 2012 with Max. Bonnie comes in around 7:54 seconds. Max explains the legal shit he went through over obscenity and then they discuss the Bonnie scene with her on his lap. 
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|  09-13-2014, 12:07 AM | #17 | |
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 Bonnie: "I?m into consensual rape." Interviewer: "Consensual rape. That?s a good way of putting it." Bonnie: "Yes. [Laughs]" | |
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|  09-13-2014, 12:11 AM | #18 | 
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				 | I don't doubt you for a second on the documentation - with Max having had that run-in with the law I'm absolutely positive he'd be very meticulous with documentation and very, very careful - Even more so when you factor in this was her supposed first time shooting. Girl's regret doing porn all the time. Seems sort of hard to claim the shoot caused her distress if she kept shooting afterwards for others... 
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|  09-13-2014, 12:20 AM | #19 | |
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  Check out the interviews I posted if you haven't already, both were a week after the shoot. 
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|  09-13-2014, 01:31 AM | #20 | 
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				 | What a potato. | 
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|  09-13-2014, 01:35 AM | #21 | |
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 8K later I won my case. Mine was for $750K So yeah 8K is a win.... | |
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|  09-13-2014, 06:58 AM | #22 | |
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|  09-13-2014, 07:36 AM | #23 | 
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				 | hah no way? just like that? 
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|  09-13-2014, 08:30 AM | #24 | 
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				 | it was a production after mine, but yeah....crew went to lunch, she grabbed tape and left, just like that  FYI: only 3 people beside surfers I know off that believe anything a model says, MS is one of them  | 
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|  09-13-2014, 10:25 AM | #25 | 
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				 | Max has dealt with this sort of nuttiness for years. I worked with him in the 90s and was actually involved in a similar case of Max Scene Remorse where I had been the performer in the Max production. Case was thrown out as soon as they saw her on tape talking about how much she enjoyed her self. Max doesn't just cover paperwork before they shoot, he shoots coverage of everything so he has a record of anything and everything that goes down. I know because I worked for him when he instituted the policy to protect his ass.  The real story is how did this model convince an attorney to even assert this claim in the first place. Mike is not Captain Save-a-ho. He is the Imperial Grand Vizier of Ho-Savers Worldwide. Make sure to salute him as you pass with a hairy palm pressed to your forehead. 
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|  09-13-2014, 12:06 PM | #26 | 
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				 | Far-L while I did once save 15,000 hos in one fell swoop  in this case I got no dog in the fight...my only interest in this case is how it could impact me 
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|  09-13-2014, 02:20 PM | #27 | |
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|  09-13-2014, 02:42 PM | #28 | 
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				 | Remorse my ass. Have you seen the shit she's done since? Did you read and watch her interviews afterwards. Its a fucking shakedown. She went on to become performer of the year, this wasn't detrimental in any way to her. People probably still wouldnt know who the hell she is if she didnt come with Max out to Vegas for fucks sake. 
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|  09-13-2014, 02:57 PM | #29 | |
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 I think you, me and everybody else know how she got him to do it. 
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|  09-13-2014, 03:03 PM | #30 | |
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|  09-13-2014, 03:08 PM | #31 | 
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				 | Max is a Gentleman  | 
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|  09-13-2014, 03:26 PM | #32 | 
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				 | in that case please post the other side of the story in the same size as the 2 posts on your blog that are still up 
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|  09-13-2014, 05:01 PM | #33 | 
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				 | Thank you! Couldn't agree more. 
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|  09-13-2014, 05:10 PM | #34 | 
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				 | You seem to have taken a different stance on this situation from when it started some time ago. Nothing wrong with changing your mind and honestly I'm glad you can now see it for what it is. 
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|  09-13-2014, 05:21 PM | #35 | |
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 both are from courthouse news sites...I didnt write em they both read pretty objective to me. honestly i dont see much merit in this one....for all the reasons yall mention above My money sez Bonnie loses 
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|  09-13-2014, 05:28 PM | #36 | 
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				 | Why don't you put up the 2 interviews I posted. I think your readers can figure it out from there. 
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|  09-13-2014, 05:30 PM | #37 | |
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 and if you read the comments they are decidedly in favor of this as a waste of the courts time. 
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|  09-13-2014, 05:33 PM | #38 | |
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 that you are as credible as news source as Lawrence Connor is a male pornstar.. 
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|  09-13-2014, 05:53 PM | #39 | 
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				 | And I care why? 
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|  09-13-2014, 06:26 PM | #40 | |
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 I've personally known Max for 18 years and he is a friend. Anything I said previously was because I knew what was coming his way from, at that time, an 18 year old with nothing to lose. I even offered to talk to Max. That's why I mentioned to you that she procrastinated in talking to Max. Although minor, at this point, I can think of only 1 thing that Max needs to do regarding this case. Since he has done nothing wrong, I hope he prevails for the sake of the business. 
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|  09-13-2014, 06:29 PM | #41 | |
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|  09-13-2014, 06:39 PM | #42 | 
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				 | I've seen the releases max uses... If anything they are overly-broad, they certainly aren't thinly worded. Incidentally, a CLAIM against anyone for anything is NOT news. An indictment, verdict, settlement... That's news. There isn't one in this matter. | 
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|  09-13-2014, 07:25 PM | #43 | |
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|  09-14-2014, 03:17 AM | #44 | |
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|  09-14-2014, 08:52 AM | #45 | |
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 "Penetration? What's penetration? You didn't say anything about penetration!" 
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|  09-14-2014, 01:19 PM | #46 | 
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				 | Fun times man....fun times....same week we shot melissa Hill and Anna Malle  Melisaa being the last of the old school, glamorous, feminine, and Anna kinda the first of the new breed, hard bodies, ink, do anything 
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|  09-14-2014, 03:55 PM | #47 | |
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 Excellent post! Im good friends with Max. Love the guy, respect the guy tremendously. Had a great deal of conversations with him when he was on my sets. The crazy thing to me is Max is a guy I look up to and he wanted to work on my set as a PA. Yes you heard it right a PA. Not that he needed the money, as mush as it was to see what I use and how I use it. Had a lot of great conversations about past and present issues and one thing I absolutely know without a doubt; This guys is air tight with his contracts and I think he also video tapes them as they are getting signed and video tapes them as he pays them. Thats what I do as well. Video before and video after when talent gets paid. Duke Skywalker takes it a few steps further; He has a 2nd camera that video tapes the entire day from when the girl steps through the door till she gets paid and leaves the location. He don't stop recording except to switch cards. The day that comes in handy, will be the day it saves him big court dollars for bullshit made up. And lastly, Im good friends with Bonnie. Really cool girl, way down to earth and a really normal person with a great business sense. No dummy and very successful. She's like a kid sister to me. Shot her about 11 times. Phenomenal performer and good person. Im not one to get into things between friends, but I don't see Max not having the right contracts and Docs. I don't see the distributer not checking the docs, I don't see his web admin checking his docs, I don't see his oversees Broadcast distribution not checking his docs and I don't see his other pay per download distribution deals not checking the docs. Even newbies don't fuck that one up because of the seriousness of the consequences for not having the paperwork. The winners are for sure the attorneys. Keep in mind you can actually sue anyone for just about anything. Even if its wrongful and knowingly won't win, there are a million+ attorneys that will gladly take the 10K retainer to file the paper work and go to court on it. Hope things work out for everyone involved. Just Dave 
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|  09-14-2014, 08:58 PM | #48 | 
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				 | Be careful about the docs then   >How was Max as a performer? >He was fun. I had fun. [but I will sue him after a while] 
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|  09-14-2014, 09:33 PM | #49 | |
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 A few girls on set asked... "Is that... ??" I said na, Paul gets a lot of that, but Max Hardcore wares a cowboy hat and Paul wares a baseball hat because he thinks Cowboy hats are for Homos! lol True Story!! Ask him. People don't understand that he's a character and performer when he's on camera. He doesn't run around town with his dick in his hand trying to stick it in every girl he sees at the mall. Cant judge the guy for what he shoots because it isn't what you like or jerk off too. When it comes to sex, I will Bet any amount of money that if all of you posted your Sex Search history or what "Got You OFF" was made public, 95% of you guys would be looked down upon, ostracized from families, friends, religious groups or even put into prison. So.... Don't judge!!!! And as far as my Docs go; They are super solid Iron clad. Video sign ins with here filling out and signing the contracts, with the identification process done on camera on camera before the scene is even shot. Then I tie "Mickey Mouse" ID pics with todays newspaper. Than after the scene I do an extensive exit interview with her receiving and showing her check on camera and signing for it. So my shit is way on point. If I miss one or any of those things, Mind Geek Legal in on me the day they get the content in the mail. Trust me, Mind Geek is way on it! The only thing I have gotten called out on a few times was me missing my signature on a some "Extras" Paper work. So thank you for your concern, but I'm pretty covered and lastly I don't see anyone going after Mind Geek for a "Shake Down". LOL    Just Dave 
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|  09-14-2014, 10:07 PM | #50 | |
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 Some people I guess just can't separate the man from the myth. 
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