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Old 09-02-2014, 05:07 PM   #51
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It's not a matter of converting to these guys. It's if you aren't Sunni you are dead. Most of those they are killing are already Muslim, just different sects.
yes but they were allowing Christians to convert to spare their lives

Nothing you can do about the different sects and the hatred they have for each other

Ohh and fiddy crazy Islamist s
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Old 09-02-2014, 05:15 PM   #52
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Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), has condemned Isis for its brutality in its current insurgence in Iraq and Syria.

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Old 09-02-2014, 05:48 PM   #53
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Saddam is not looking so bad now eh? Biggest mistake the americans ever made was taking him out. He kept that fucked up region in order.
not saying you are wrong, because we'll never know what the situation would be right now if the government opted to not go after saddam, but ISIS originated in Syria and has also spread into iraq. It sprung up in syria due to the arab spring, which has been directly connected to bradly manning leaking classified documents to wikileaks, such as revealing the private financial holding of the tunisian ruling family.


i.e. leaking documents is looking pretty bad now eh.
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:24 PM   #54
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yes he was but the middle east was a stable place when he was in power
9/11 marked the end of any sort of stability in the Middle East - We all bayed for blood - Iraq was an obvious target...

The so called 'Arab Spring' demonstrated that the Middle East wants stability - It was always going to be a hard and long process though - Maybe this ISIS crap will remind a few people of why we are doing this.....

A stable Middle East is in all our best interests...

I don't buy into this 'war is what makes the world go round' bullshit.....
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:31 PM   #55
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i'm a peaceful person but I don't see anything good coming from that ISIS thing - and total eradication seems the only option
I could not agree more. There is not room for tolerance with sub-humans like this scum.

We did not evolve over millions of years to allow this sort of shit.

Let's take evolution in hand...there are clearly times when genocide is justified.

This is one of those times...
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Old 09-03-2014, 02:59 AM   #56
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you cant take care of shit in your own country what makes you think you can conrol others and that they WANT to listen to shit you say?

vietnam- you guys fucked up...you plain achieved NOTHING over there
korea - mega fuck up of the century, the world is still feeling it
iraq - fuckup 101

reality: you just send guys over to make some $ for the military industry and they sell it to you like it meant shit to america

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Hope we bomb them back into their fucking caves
ISIS would be greatful, your mickey mouse corporate politics is military islams #1 recruiter...just keep bombing them and destroying their economy and livelyhood and you will have generations of terrorists waiting to blow you up in a world where technology is advancing and its only a matter of time before something really bad happens to the USA

I know what the average american is thinking right now: "what? the USA is indestrucable, we have captain america and batman and the US army"

reality: you can not take care of shit in your own country...its a fucking ghetto gang zone LOL ..
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generations of terrorists waiting to blow you up in a world where technology is advancing and its only a matter of time before something really bad happens to the USA
Are you kidding? You forgot to mention Libya, Egypt, Afghan (fuck up lists have to include them). Its only a matter of time before the USA is proper NUKED. The USA is the only country with the military might to pose a serious obstacle to ISIS and is now coming up against ISIS on various territories. Now that is not pessimism, it is realism.

How long before ISIS thinks "Hmmmm so the USA is the only obstacle. Why don't we just NUKE the USA? Then we are free to rule the world."

Its a logical set of thinking right? So therefore it must be a matter of time because ISIS has no concern about the Geneva Convention ....

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Are you kidding? You forgot to mention Libya, Egypt, Afghan (fuck up lists have to include them). Its only a matter of time before the USA is proper NUKED. The USA is the only country with the military might to pose a serious obstacle to ISIS and is now coming up against ISIS on various territories. Now that is not pessimism, it is realism.

How long before ISIS thinks "Hmmmm so the USA is the only obstacle. Why don't we just NUKE the USA? Then we are free to rule the world."

Its a logical set of thinking right? So therefore it must be a matter of time because ISIS has no concern about the Geneva Convention ....
Do you have ANY idea what goes into the manufacturing of a nuclear bomb? And once you have one reaching the United States from the Middle East with it?

The United States is the only nation to ever drop a nuclear bomb, it won't be shy to use nuclear weapons again if it ever feels a large number of its citizens are in mortal danger.
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Do you have ANY idea what goes into the manufacturing of a nuclear bomb? And once you have one reaching the United States from the Middle East with it?.
Yes and a well funded terror group could get it together easily (within a decade) and we don't even know how they will advance between now and then.

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I don't doubt that (although it may be difficult to determine what to blow up). I also suspect that it will be a mute point after millions have been vapourized.... where I come from it was referred to as "crying over spilt milk".

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What we should do but it will never happen. Is pull out of everywhere in the middle east and use that money to become energy independent and oil free by 2020.
Put that money into creating new technology, which would create millions of jobs and what they do over there is their problem.
The reason we started fucking around over there from the beginning is oil. Its never going to have a happy ending this is what those people do and they have done for thousands of years.
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:22 AM   #61
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What we should do but it will never happen. Is pull out of everywhere in the middle east and use that money to become energy independent and oil free by 2020.
Put that money into creating new technology, which would create millions of jobs and what they do over there is their problem.
The reason we started fucking around over there from the beginning is oil. Its never going to have a happy ending this is what those people do and they have done for thousands of years.
you do realize that no matter if we have a presence in the middle east or not these groups will come gunning for us anywhere and everywhere just because they hate the way we live our lives.
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you do realize that no matter if we have a presence in the middle east or not these groups will come gunning for us anywhere and everywhere just because they hate the way we live our lives.
That's not why they hate us. They hate us for fucking around in their countries.
We installed the Shah of Iran, Saddam .Tell the people to rise up and we will help you and then turn our back on them as they got slaughtered(that was during the first iraq war, they told the people rise up again Saddam and then there was a policy change) Ron Paul was right when he said 911 was the chickens coming home to Roost.
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they will never get past Jordan (that's were they are headed next)
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Please gentlemen, Mossad is in mourning today.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/israel-rev...4.html#1NvbZhs

According to Reuters, this biographical detail had been previously withheld to minimize the risks that Sotloff's captivity already engendered. Sotloff also seemed to have successfully hidden his Jewish faith from his captors :

The Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth, quoting a former fellow captive, said Sotloff had kept his Judaism a secret from the Islamist insurgents, pretending he was sick when he fasted for the Yom Kippur holiday."

The Times of Israel is reporting that Sotloff had emigrated to Israel in 2005 becoming a citizen and attending school there before he started his career in MOSSAD.

I doubt secret remained hidden.
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Pointing their guns at Sheikh, a Bangladeshi migrant worker captured along with 76 others in the northern Iraqi city of Tikrit, the men told him to clean up the blood. Sheikh, a Sunni, says his captors paid him $100 for the work, a sum he accepted at gunpoint. Days later, he was allowed to return home.

Now Sheikh wants to return to Iraq, even as Islamic State extremists battle for territory in a conflict that has brought U.S. airstrikes back to the country and displaced or killed tens of thousands of people. Sheikh says it’s still easier to find a job in Iraq, where per capita gross domestic product is about seven times higher than his home nation.

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That is one desperado ...
http://www.timesofisrael.com/steve-s...ots-in-israel/

The word 'mossad' is not in that article. An Israeli citizen going to Syria is definitely asking for trouble. You are making an erroneous assumption -- if he was a Mossad agent he would have had a Syrian citizen cover -- like Eli Cohen, a Mossad spy in Syria in the 1960s. Mossad is not that stupid. Sotloff's escapade was idiocy apparently. Had ISIS known that he was a dual citizen American/Israeli why didn't ISIS use that for their propaganda purposes? Maybe, they don't want Israel to be bombing ISIS in Syria as a tag team with the US bombing ISIS in Iraq?

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http://www.timesofisrael.com/steve-s...ots-in-israel/

The word 'mossad' is not in that article. An Israeli citizen going to Syria is definitely asking for trouble. You are making an erroneous assumption -- if he was a Mossad agent he would have had a Syrian citizen cover -- like Eli Cohen, a Mossad spy in Syria in the 1960s. Mossad is not that stupid. Sotloff's escapade was idiocy apparently. Had ISIS known that he was a dual citizen American/Israeli why didn't ISIS use that for their propaganda purposes? Maybe, they don't want Israel to be bombing ISIS in Syria as a tag team with the US bombing ISIS in Iraq?
Ah, so he was more American than Israeli. I'm always suspicious of these "freelance journalists" a tag which usually means no legitimate paper wants to take credit for them. He was an idiot that's for sure.
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That's not why they hate us. They hate us for fucking around in their countries.
Well said.......... people always say: "they hate our freedom", "they hate the way we live" blah blah. It's NOTHING to do with that. It's PURELY the fucking around with their countries and their lands that they object to. Meanwhile, they're opening outlets elsewhere:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29056668

The problem is that people lack empathy. Try to imagine that Christians all over the world are being oppressed and invaded by Muslim countries for various reasons over the last 50 years instead of the other way around. Wouldn't you expect the rise of Christian fundamentalism?

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Well said.......... people always say: "they hate our freedom", "they hate the way we live" blah blah. It's NOTHING to do with that. It's PURELY the fucking around with their countries and their lands that they object to.

The problem is that people lack empathy. Try to imagine that Christians all over the world are being oppressed and invaded by Muslim countries for various reasons over the last 50 years instead of the other way around. Wouldn't you expect the rise of Christian fundamentalism?

I'm not defending any side, but you have to face facts.....
Do you realise you are offensive to Christians and Muslims?..
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Do you realise you are offensive to Christians and Muslims?..
No its just an example and no offence intended........ but im talking about one country and peoples invading another country and peoples and how it caused what we call terrorism.
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The only thing that works worse than 'nation building' is 'partial war'.


1 - Don't ever go to war unless you are willing to kill *everyone* in the area.

2 - When you do go to war, be sure to kill everyone in the area.

I'd go to war far less often than countries do, and I'd be far more brutal about it in the rare instances where it is required.

We went to war in the wrong place, created more enemies than we killed and are now faced with a real reason to go to war that will require far more death and destruction than the original war. It's a lot like losing a sneaker in a tree, throwing your other sneaker at it to knock it down... And walking home barefoot.

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It is funny how most of the people here are affected by media.

Thousands of people getting killed monthly in Syria for a few years...let alone Libya, South Sudan, Iraq, Mexico.

ISIS releases hollywood style couple of clips and uh oh ISIS is the real threat.

wake up! they can't do anything against country with proper army, they been near Israel border for week and as I mentioned before, and they are too scared to shoot in the direction of our border even as they DO know we would vaporize them in a few hours maximum.

They don't have any advanced weapons, they are too small.

Nontheless they should be eliminated, but the real threat is coming from the countries supporting them and trying to get their hands on a nuclear weapons!

Cut off the head and the body will die ;)
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Cut off the head and the body will die ;)
hummmm.... on topic !
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Hope we bomb them back into their fucking caves
This has happened because you already bombed them back into their fucking caves. Before the US invasion, Iraq was a rather civilized country. The Iraqi women wore jeans and learned in colleges. There was a synagogue in Baghdad (yes, a synagogue in Baghdad). Even a right hand of Saddam (Tariq Aziz) was a christian. And there was no Al Qaeda.

Now look what you've got there, because of your stupid government headed by moronic Bush Jr. and his pocket puppets like this clown:



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If the Iranians were asked nicely, they'd happily take care of ISIS.
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Now look what you've got there, because of your stupid government headed by moronic Bush Jr. and his pocket puppets like this clown:

They call him Colon Powell...... Why? because he's full of shit.

Actually I have nothing more to say (just wanted to get my Colon Powell joke in).
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If the Iranians were asked nicely, they'd happily take care of ISIS.
The trouble is Iran was once in the Axis of Evil. Now all of a sudden, they're the best friends of USA.

They're not stupid - they don't regard the USA as an ally because they know the USA works with them only as a matter of convenience and will switch loyalty at the drop of a hat. In the same way as the USA has done multiple times before.....
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Great post wehateporn.
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Great post wehateporn.
If only it was based on reality. But it's not.
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If only it was based on reality. But it's not.
.. and what is not real in those quotes , aside maybe for 9/11 ( we will never know, just like JFK ) ?
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.. and what is not real in those quotes , aside maybe for 9/11 ( we will never know, just like JFK ) ?


1. there's no proof 9/11 was an inside job, therefor no proof of a lie to cover that up

2. there was in fact an attack in the Gulf of tonkin

3. research has shown that there is no proof the Maine exploded from the inside.

4. pearl harbor was a surprise attack.

5. kuwaitii incubators were stolen
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Yea this is so stupid. I'm sure plenty of people were murdered here in the US this week, but they can't use any of those stories to support the military industrial complex.
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