Can somebody recommend a good lawyer in Hong Kong?

[Pornopat]

This is over bitcoin miners that did not get delivered.
Any recomendation here would be appreciated!

My email is adulttubesubmits.com with patrick@ in front

Cheers

[megapower]

you lost money on a deal with bc miners and now you want lost more with a lawyer?

mostly they only have a mailbox there, catch the ppl behind and hire the right debt collectors :-))

[Pornopat]

Originally Posted by megapower

you lost money on a deal with bc miners and now you want lost more with a lawyer?

mostly they only have a mailbox there, catch the ppl behind and hire the right debt collectors :-))

No dont want to lose more money by choosing somebody with only a mailbox there.
This is why I am asking for genuine advice from people who might have handled with hongkong lawyers. I am sure some people of gfy have sued over there or more likely have been sued.

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by Pornopat

No dont want to lose more money by choosing somebody with only a mailbox there.

What they meant was you are likely chasing someone who isn't / has never been in Hong Kong.

[megapower]

ottopottomouse correctly, and he will spend a lot of money that the lawyer tell him this, or if the lawyer make a good (rip) job he will go and sue this company who don't has more then a mailbox there. then probably you will find out that the company is controlled by another offshore company and so on... depending how professionally they build this up.

it's much better to pay someone to investigate to identify who rip him off, not the company, the person behind this and then talk the right way with this person :-)

[Pornopat]

The owner is Romanian living in London.
The company is registered in HongKong and has a hongkong bank account which still receives funds.

[Clark]

Pat- I might have a name for you. I need to check with him. Back soon.

[sandman!]

sucks


good luck getting your $$$ back!

[lagcam]

As others have rightly said. I am pretty sure that a lawyer will only add to your loss.

Ask yourself why a Romanian who lives in London would operate out of a Hong Kong company, and then ask yourself what the chances are that your money will be sitting in his Hong Kong bank account long enough for you to get a Court Judgment against that Hong Kong Company and a Garnishee Order placed on the bank to get it ring fenced for you.

I don't know the sums involved but unless it is big and the company that owes you have any kind of reputation that they would want to preserve, your chances are slim I am afraid.

That doesn't mean I would let it go of course but a good lawyer is not likely to offer no success no fee on international debt collection. In fact they could get in trouble for doing so. http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/a...g-kong-lawyers

Why not have a chat with a local "debt collection agency" before a lawyer? Many do operate on a no success no fee basis. I just did a quick search for you and looked at a couple of sites and this one looks ok on the face of it. Not recommending them and have no knowledge of them but I am familiar with the international debt collection process and having a local presence and having somebody prepared to turn up at their (probably accountant or lawyer's) office is a very important factor in being taken seriously.

This page explains quite clearly the steps they would take.

http://www.mncgc.com/standard-operat...ures/?lang=en/

but I would recommend you do a little due diligence on anybody before instructing them to collect money on your behalf as you do want to end up with collected funds being paid to you.

Hope this helps in some way. Good luck

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by lagcam

Ask yourself why a Romanian who lives in London would operate out of a Hong Kong company, and then ask yourself what the chances are that your money will be sitting in his Hong Kong bank account long enough for you to get a Court Judgment against that Hong Kong Company and a Garnishee Order placed on the bank to get it ring fenced for you.

Hong Kong has no corporate income tax for business done outside of hong kong

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Pornopat

The owner is Romanian living in London.
The company is registered in HongKong and has a hongkong bank account which still receives funds.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, others have said similar, on that basis you can be pretty sure it's already "game over".

Don't throw good money after bad.

[Clark]

Sorry Pat. The lead I had has moved on not in HK any longer. good luck

[Pornopat]

Originally Posted by lagcam

As others have rightly said. I am pretty sure that a lawyer will only add to your loss.

Ask yourself why a Romanian who lives in London would operate out of a Hong Kong company, and then ask yourself what the chances are that your money will be sitting in his Hong Kong bank account long enough for you to get a Court Judgment against that Hong Kong Company and a Garnishee Order placed on the bank to get it ring fenced for you.

I don't know the sums involved but unless it is big and the company that owes you have any kind of reputation that they would want to preserve, your chances are slim I am afraid.

That doesn't mean I would let it go of course but a good lawyer is not likely to offer no success no fee on international debt collection. In fact they could get in trouble for doing so. http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/a...g-kong-lawyers

Why not have a chat with a local "debt collection agency" before a lawyer? Many do operate on a no success no fee basis. I just did a quick search for you and looked at a couple of sites and this one looks ok on the face of it. Not recommending them and have no knowledge of them but I am familiar with the international debt collection process and having a local presence and having somebody prepared to turn up at their (probably accountant or lawyer's) office is a very important factor in being taken seriously.

This page explains quite clearly the steps they would take.

http://www.mncgc.com/standard-operat...ures/?lang=en/

but I would recommend you do a little due diligence on anybody before instructing them to collect money on your behalf as you do want to end up with collected funds being paid to you.

Hope this helps in some way. Good luck

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Clark

Sorry Pat. The lead I had has moved on not in HK any longer. good luck

Thanks for checking it out anyways!

[NewOldPlayer]

res, he a name a Fu Man Chu. He a number one lawyer and can get a you a number one fucky sucky.

My famaree use a him arr da time.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Pornopat

The owner is Romanian living in London.

Dude! London is close by, lets make it a fun weekend!!!

[AdultKing]

Pat , can you contact me via http://copycontrol.org/contact-us

I can refer you to a reputable investigator who works in the region who will be able to provide you better advice than most of us on GFY. He is Australian and works with fraud and deception matters in Asia/South East Asia.

[Pornopat]

Originally Posted by Roald

Dude! London is close by, lets make it a fun weekend!!!

I cant afford to go to London before I have my money back...

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Pat , can you contact me via http://copycontrol.org/contact-us

I can refer you to a reputable investigator who works in the region who will be able to provide you better advice than most of us on GFY. He is Australian and works with fraud and deception matters in Asia/South East Asia.

Thanks! contacting you now.

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by Pornopat

I cant afford to go to London before I have my money back...

Your money is gone and anything you spend from here on out will only confirm that. I have spent a lot of money chasing deadbeats, managed to fuck up the lives of a few, damage the business of others (but they were already damaging themselves by not paying suppliers) and even got to see one asshole crammed in a squad car and taken down to the local 3rd world pokey and beaten, but none if it got me paid and I would have to say objectively that, as a collections effort, every dime was wasted.

The only thing you have of value in a situation like this is what you learned from it, so cash that in if you can, otherwise, good luck! You will certainly need it.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Pornopat

Thanks! contacting you now.

I didn't get anything from you but I've sent you an email.

[CaptainHowdy]

Let it go ...

[Pornopat]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

I didn't get anything from you but I've sent you an email.

Thanks. Read it and emailed you back!