Dennis Miller on the mid east

[Grapesoda]

For those of you who don't like Dennis Miller, who is not Jewish, you may want to reconsider after reading his brilliant comments that follow.

For those who don't know, Dennis Miller is a comedian who has a show called Dennis Miller Live on HBO. Although he is not Jewish, he recently had the following to say about the Middle East situation:



A brief overview of the situation is always valuable, so as a service to all Americans who still don't get it, I now offer you the story of the Middle East in just a few paragraphs, which is all you really need.'

Here we go:

The Palestinians want their own country. There's just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians. It's a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like 'Wiccan,' 'Palestinian' sounds ancient but is really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in the 1967 war, Gaza was owned by Egypt , the West Bank was owned by Jordan , and there were no 'Palestinians.'

As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the 'Palestinians,? weeping for their deep bond with their lost 'land' and 'nation.'

So for the sake of honesty, let's not use the word 'Palestinian' any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone points out they're being taped. Instead, let's call them what they are: 'Other Arabs Who Can't Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death.'



I know that's a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN. How about this, then: 'Adjacent Jew-Haters.' Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one more thing: No, they don't. They could've had their own country. Anytime in the last thirty years, especially several years ago at Camp David. But If you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks. And Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living.

That's no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel. They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course that's where the real fun is -- but mostly they want Israel.

Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel - or 'The Zionist Entity' as their textbooks call it -- for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they're the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God's Earth, and if you've ever been around God's Earth, you know that's really saying something.

It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Mid East. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't given anything to the world since algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of a lot for that one.


Chew this around and spit it out: Five hundred million Arabs; five million Jews.

Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these same folks swear that if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals.

Really? Wow, what neat news.

Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive very Jew into the sea? Oh, that? We were just kidding.

My friend, Kevin Rooney, made a gorgeous point the other day: Just reverse the numbers. Imagine five hundred million Jews and five million Arabs. I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it. Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite to themselves? Of course not.



Or marshalling every fibre and force at their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab State into the sea? Nonsense.

Or dancing for joy at the murder of Innocents? Impossible.

Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children? Disgusting.

No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death.

However, in any big-picture strategy, there's always a danger of losing moral weight. We've already lost some. After September 11th our president told us and the world he was going to root out all terrorists and the countries that supported them. Beautiful. Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of an Oklahoma City every week (and then every day) start to do the same thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint.

If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be done with it and kill everything south of the Mediterranean and east of the Jordan ..

[L-Pink]

Bravo Dennis

[SilentKnight]

Always liked Dennis on SNL back in the day.

He's spot-on here.

[SongRider]

If you use that logic then "Americans" is a made up word as well... we are actually "Displaced Europeans" and when the American Indians decide we have occupied this sacred soil long enough we should just disperse back to the never from hence we came.

Dennis Miller is nothing more than a fucking bobble-head retard with a thesaurus...

Its WAR!!! Survival of the fittest sort of shit... every one needs to just face the truth of it and quit trying to justify the "plight of the Jews". Even the JEWS don't like the Jews... Much less anyone else. GOD "chose" the Jews.. Its ONLY about for-filling a Biblical prophecy. And the Jews were NOT the fittest for 2000 years until the west realized that without Israel Jesus would not come back and tilted the table so all the balls would roll their way.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by SongRider

If you use that logic then "Americans" is a made up word as well... we are actually "Displaced Europeans" and when the American Indians decide we have occupied this sacred soil long enough we should just disperse back to the never from hence we came.

Dennis Miller is nothing more than a fucking bobble-head retard with a thesaurus...

Its WAR!!! Survival of the fittest sort of shit... every one needs to just face the truth of it and quit trying to justify the "plight of the Jews". Even the JEWS don't like the Jews... Much less anyone else. GOD "chose" the Jews.. Its ONLY about for-filling a Biblical prophecy. And the Jews were NOT the fittest for 2000 years until the west realized that without Israel Jesus would not come back and tilted the table so all the balls would roll their way.

you're really a dumb fuck aren't you? war? every time the Arabs attack the Jews they get their fucking asses kicked THEN the UN tells the Jews to leave the poor fucking Arabs alone... and they DO! then the Arabs sneak around and do the exact same thing.. the Jews do the exact same thing and the fucking UN does the exact same thing.. there's your war you stupid fuck

[crockett]

I always liked Dennis Miller but he has a flaw in his argument. The land that formed Israel was essentially taken and the people living there were forced to become part of this new state.

There wasn't a contest, the land didn't just pop out of a cereal box as a cheap prize and awarded to Jewish people as their own state.

The so called Palestine's didn't just show up over night and say, hey we want your land you filthy Jewish scum.. They were already there living along side the Jewish people that were also already there.

What happened in Israel would be like going to Florida and saying.. Hey since there are a lot of Cubans here and Castro has been real bad to you, we are going to make South Florida a Cuban exile state. Everyone that remains whom is not Cuban is now a second class citizen with no rights.

The Cubans get to take control of everything because they are Cubans and all the other people there can have no say in the government because it's now a Cuban state.

While as I mentioned, I do like Dennis Miller, he often suffers from the dumbed down Conservative mindset, because he often doesn't look at reality.

[SongRider]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

you're really a dumb fuck aren't you? war? every time the Arabs attack the Jews they get their fucking asses kicked THEN the UN tells the Jews to leave the poor fucking Arabs alone... and they DO! then the Arabs sneak around and do the exact same thing.. the Jews do the exact same thing and the fucking UN does the exact same thing.. there's your war you stupid fuck

Calm down Mamm... Pull your panties out of your crack and shake the sand out of your vagina... I just aint that into you bitch!

You just MIGHT... very slight MAYBE here have a SLIGHT chance at having a valid argument IF you knew what the fuck you were talking about!!! The fucking JEWS and the WEST started this shit in the late 40's by displacing the Palestinians to begin with... HISTORY DON'T LIE you stupid cunt!


But in spite of your really over the top tone, un called for name calling and inability to control your conservative temper I am quite confident that Jesus still loves you...

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by SongRider

If you use that logic then "Americans" is a made up word as well... we are actually "Displaced Europeans" and when the American Indians decide we have occupied this sacred soil long enough we should just disperse back to the never from hence we came.

Dennis Miller is nothing more than a fucking bobble-head retard with a thesaurus...

Its WAR!!! Survival of the fittest sort of shit... every one needs to just face the truth of it and quit trying to justify the "plight of the Jews". Even the JEWS don't like the Jews... Much less anyone else. GOD "chose" the Jews.. Its ONLY about for-filling a Biblical prophecy. And the Jews were NOT the fittest for 2000 years until the west realized that without Israel Jesus would not come back and tilted the table so all the balls would roll their way.

First, you're no Dennis Miller.

The settlers of America were English predominantly, the continent had the name 'America' named after explorer Amerigo Vespucci 100 years or more before they got there.

You're an anti-semitic clown, 'even the JEWS don't like the Jews' is a ridiculous statement, unlike Arabs when Jews disagree they don't maim and kill each other. Perhaps the ONLY ethnic group in the entire world who doesn't.

The West did fuck all for the Jews in 1948, the Jews certainly were the fittest in the Middle East as they kicked Arab ass all over the Levant to create the state of Israel and they did it again and again when the Arabs ganged up on them. And most of the land won in those years they gave back, keeping only what was important to having defensible borders considering they're surrounded by lunatics who keep promising they will drive Israel into the sea.

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

you're really a dumb fuck aren't you? war? every time the Arabs attack the Jews they get their fucking asses kicked THEN the UN tells the Jews to leave the poor fucking Arabs alone... and they DO! then the Arabs sneak around and do the exact same thing.. the Jews do the exact same thing and the fucking UN does the exact same thing.. there's your war you stupid fuck

Dennis Miller is a partisan hack who is also wrong on this subject. What else is new?

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by SongRider

You just MIGHT... very slight MAYBE here have a SLIGHT chance at having a valid argument IF you knew what the fuck you were talking about!!! The fucking JEWS and the WEST started this shit in the late 40's by displacing the Palestinians to begin with... HISTORY DON'T LIE you stupid cunt!

Again, you're a fouled mouth idiot who knows nothing about the 40's or any other decade including this one.

There were no Palestinians, if you raised the 500,000 Arabs scattered through Israel in the 1940's from the grave and asked them what they were the answer would not be Palestinian.

They were displaced, no argument there, the vast majority of them were told to get out by other Arabs who promised them they'd quickly take care of the Jews and could return. That worked out well for them.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by crockett

I always liked Dennis Miller but he has a flaw in his argument. The land that formed Israel was essentially taken and the people living there were forced to become part of this new state.

There wasn't a contest, the land didn't just pop out of a cereal box as a cheap prize and awarded to Jewish people as their own state.

The so called Palestine's didn't just show up over night and say, hey we want your land you filthy Jewish scum.. They were already there living along side the Jewish people that were also already there.

What happened in Israel would be like going to Florida and saying.. Hey since there are a lot of Cubans here and Castro has been real bad to you, we are going to make South Florida a Cuban exile state. Everyone that remains whom is not Cuban is now a second class citizen with no rights.

The Cubans get to take control of everything because they are Cubans and all the other people there can have no say in the government because it's now a Cuban state.

While as I mentioned, I do like Dennis Miller, he often suffers from the dumbed down Conservative mindset, because he often doesn't look at reality.

nope, the land was sold to the Jews in the mid 1800's by Arabs... there NEVER was a Palestine, there never was a Palestinian people.. after the Jews turned a shit hole into a nice place ..... the Arabs in the med east moved there to have an opportunity for a better life... THEN the Arabs deiced to take the land back and kick the Jews off... think about it.. if Arabs weren't stupid fucks they would own Israel, just by breeding alone.... you know the number 1 radio station in LA is Spanish? how many Mexicans shot rockets into LA?

[SongRider]

Originally Posted by Mutt

There were no Palestinians, if you raised the 500,000 Arabs scattered through Israel in the 1940's from the grave and asked them what they were the answer would not be Palestinian.

You just proved your stupidity with that statement...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

If there were NONE then who they hell were these people? and note the date as well Dumbass...

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by SongRider

You just proved your stupidity with that statement...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

If there were NONE then who they hell were these people? and note the date as well Dumbass...

read history

[SongRider]

Its another right-wing attempt to re-write history... You really cant argue with them because there is NO REALITY in anything they say or believe!!!

I am sure they often wonder why OUR white guy named Jesus was over there to begin with?

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by SongRider

You just proved your stupidity with that statement...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

If there were NONE then who they hell were these people? and note the date as well Dumbass...

How stupid are you, I clearly said there were 500,000 Arabs in Palestine and most of the exodus was at the behest of other Arabs for them to get out while they annihilated the Jews.

[SongRider]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Again, you're a fouled mouth idiot who knows nothing about the 40's or any other decade including this one.

There were no Palestinians, if you raised the 500,000 Arabs scattered through Israel in the 1940's from the grave and asked them what they were the answer would not be Palestinian.

They were displaced, no argument there, the vast majority of them were told to get out by other Arabs who promised them they'd quickly take care of the Jews and could return. That worked out well for them.

Your direct words you stupid fuck!!! --->"There were no Palestinians"<--- YOU said that... YOU ... NOT me...

Exerpt from article: The history of the Palestinian exodus is closely tied to the events of the war in Palestine, which lasted from 1947 to 1949, and to the political events preceding it. In September 1949, the United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine estimated 711,000 Palestinian refugees existed outside Israel,[18] with about one-quarter of the estimated 160,000 Palestinian Arabs remaining in Israel as "internal refugees".

"711,000 Palestinian refugees"= 711,000 Palestinian refugees

[Captain Kawaii]

Here's a real history of the area
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-l...usaolp00000592

I know Mutt and his girl group like sucking Netanyahu's cock but the above article prepared by 2 Jewish professors pretty much sums up the truth rather than the 8th grade academics in this thread.

Dennis Miller has been sucking Bebe's cock for 20 years as well.
Perks must be nice for that racist loser.

[SongRider]

BTW... I dont care about any of this shit... Just having fun arguing for the fun of fucking with Grapesoda... She makes me laugh!!!

Off to jam some blues... : )

[Mutt]

"Yoav Gelber claims that the Arab Liberation Army embarked on a systematic evacuation of non-combatants from several frontier villages in order to turn them into military strongholds."

Note, it's not the Palestinian Liberation Army in 1948. Because the country/territory/state of Palestine didn't exist, nor did a people called Palestinians.

But yes there were 500,000 Arabs there and they deserve a state of their own and would have had one long ago if not for the the other Arabs using them as disposable pawns in their war against the Jews.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by SongRider

BTW... I dont care about any of this shit... Just having fun arguing for the fun of fucking with Grapesoda... She makes me laugh!!!

Off to jam some blues... : )

let's see here: you're a stupid argumentative troll who hates women... thanks for clearing that up for us!

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Here's a real history of the area
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-l...usaolp00000592

I know Mutt and his girl group like sucking Netanyahu's cock but the above article prepared by 2 Jewish professors pretty much sums up the truth rather than the 8th grade academics in this thread.

Dennis Miller has been sucking Bebe's cock for 20 years as well.
Perks must be nice for that racist loser.

only touches the surface... the story goes way back before 1948... watch the vid I posted captain k

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Here's a real history of the area
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-l...usaolp00000592

I know Mutt and his girl group like sucking Netanyahu's cock but the above article prepared by 2 Jewish professors pretty much sums up the truth rather than the 8th grade academics in this thread.

Dennis Miller has been sucking Bebe's cock for 20 years as well.
Perks must be nice for that racist loser.

Those are some academics you got there - a professor of comparative literature and a history prof at the Harvard of Southern California, UC Irvine.

Their letter is filled with suppositions that betray their bias, like this one:

'When war finally came, the Zionist leadership "accepted" the terms of the 1947 Partition Plan. In reality, they had little intention of actually fulfilling them'

Mind readers I guess.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Here's a real history of the area
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-l...usaolp00000592

I know Mutt and his girl group like sucking Netanyahu's cock but the above article prepared by 2 Jewish professors pretty much sums up the truth rather than the 8th grade academics in this thread.

Dennis Miller has been sucking Bebe's cock for 20 years as well.
Perks must be nice for that racist loser.

I see we have another Hamas sympathizer and anti-semite.

[baddog]

You really have to love people that feel Wikipedia is accurate.

Originally Posted by SongRider

Calm down Mamm... Pull your panties out of your crack and shake the sand out of your vagina... I just aint that into you bitch!

You just MIGHT... very slight MAYBE here have a SLIGHT chance at having a valid argument IF you knew what the fuck you were talking about!!! The fucking JEWS and the WEST started this shit in the late 40's by displacing the Palestinians to begin with... HISTORY DON'T LIE you stupid cunt!


But in spite of your really over the top tone, un called for name calling and inability to control your conservative temper I am quite confident that Jesus still loves you...

Originally Posted by SongRider

You just proved your stupidity with that statement...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

If there were NONE then who they hell were these people? and note the date as well Dumbass...

I can't find it; does Palestine have a president or king? Who was their first and where is their capitol located?

[Mutt]

This is from the preamble of the Charter of Hamas

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam invalidates it, just as it invalidated others before it."

How do you make peace with that? You don't, not if you want your children and grandchildren to have a homeland. You do what Israel does, defend yourself against those who promise to obliterate you. And that's unfortunately messy business.

[bronco67]

Makes sense.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Dvae

I see we have another Hamas sympathizer and anti-semite.

it's weird to me.... my step dad was a total piece of shit... made my life a living hell as a kid.... the guy was a JEWISH Dr.... never held that against Jews in anyway though... I've never had any issues with Jews although I know people that do... and Jewish women can be hot as hell too

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Mutt

This is from the preamble of the Charter of Hamas

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam invalidates it, just as it invalidated others before it."

How do you make peace with that? You don't, not if you want your children and grandchildren to have a homeland. You do what Israel does, defend yourself against those who promise to obliterate you. And that's unfortunately messy business.

check this out Mutt... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gatekeepers_(film)

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Dvae

I see we have another Hamas sympathizer and anti-semite.

I see we have a dimwit who cant spell Dave.
Your anti-semite card betrays your inner racist. Let it out and tell the goyem how you really feel pig.

I've been told off-board the comments presented here are not even Dennis Miller's but instead belong to Larry Miller, a well-known racist comedian.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Mutt

This is from the preamble of the Charter of Hamas

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam invalidates it, just as it invalidated others before it."

How do you make peace with that? You don't, not if you want your children and grandchildren to have a homeland. You do what Israel does, defend yourself against those who promise to obliterate you. And that's unfortunately messy business.

Israel has been attacking its neighbors since it set up shop. Don't let the facts of history get in your way, just keep on trolling along.

Israel has NEVER intended to have a peace that did not include enslaving or murdering its neighbors. That is the track record of Israel.

I take the word of Jewish UC professors over the word of third rate porn peddlers any day of the week and twice on the sabbath.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Mutt

How stupid are you, I clearly said there were 500,000 Arabs in Palestine and most of the exodus was at the behest of other Arabs for them to get out while they annihilated the Jews.

They were expelled from their homes and it was closer to 700k.

[kane]

It doesn't really matter. If they didn't have Israel to fight about the arabs would be fighting about something else. That part of the world has known nothing but unrest and bloodshed since before written history. There is no reason to think it will ever change.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Dvae

I see we have another Hamas sympathizer and anti-semite.

here we go with the anti-semite card .... again!

By any chance, are you anti-russianite ?

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

nope, the land was sold to the Jews in the mid 1800's by Arabs... there NEVER was a Palestine, there never was a Palestinian people.. after the Jews turned a shit hole into a nice place ..... the Arabs in the med east moved there to have an opportunity for a better life... THEN the Arabs deiced to take the land back and kick the Jews off... think about it.. if Arabs weren't stupid fucks they would own Israel, just by breeding alone....

You need to open up a history book. You ignorance is epic.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Dvae

I see we have another Hamas sympathizer and anti-semite.

Here we go. Everyone who is not on the side of Israel and their actions is Hitler...

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

let's see here: you're a stupid argumentative troll...

That is funny considering it's pretty much all you do since changing your name on GFY. I guess if people do not like playing you brand of devil's advocate, they are a troll and stupid. However, when you do it in these various topics to stir the pot, it's ok.

[Captain Kawaii]

from Dr. Gil Hochberg's article.

"There is no way to describe what Israel has done in Gaza other than as a massive crime against humanity. Is it genocide, as the letter that Mr. Bardem and others signed alleges? Given the history of genocide against the Jews -- the very term was invented to describe the Holocaust -- it is tragic that such a characterization can even be considered. But in fact it must be faced, because Israel's actions, which have long been characterized as "politicide" or "spaciocide" by Israeli and Palestinian scholars such as Baruch Kimmerling and Sari Hanafi, have become so intense that one can no longer take such an accusation off the table.

It is undeniable that Israelis have suffered in this present conflict and in the past that led us here, but what is certain is that the suffering that Israel has inflicted upon Palestinians is exponentially greater, and the responsibility for that suffering lies not just with Israel but with the United States, which has, in the words of Jon Stewart, acted as its "drug dealer" while pretending to be a caring friend. If you really care about Israel, you will take the time to understand the actual history and present realities, not myths that have no more accuracy than the Wild West fantasies that used to be taught to schoolchildren in the United States. Otherwise, all your passion and concern for Israel will only lead it closer to the very reckoning that you are desperately trying to avoid."

If I'm an anti-semite then what is Israel? Anti-humanity? Anti-world?
I really find these threads offensive. I'd rather look at CS's toilet achievements.

[RFremont]

Originally Posted by Dvae

I see we have another Hamas sympathizer and anti-semite.

Actually you are the bigot for injecting race/religion in the discussion as an attack on the opposing point of view. That's what people do when they can't debate facts. That card is already played out by now.

[BabeHunter]