So it turns out Michael Brown robbed a store moments before getting shot.... - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

OneHungLo · 08-15-2014, 02:59 PM

If Obama had a son...

MasturbateFun · 08-15-2014, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Police Chief has already said the officer who shot Brown had no knowledge of him being a robbery suspect, so it has no bearing on the case. Also, it's not been verified yet that it's him.

Even if it is him being a thug bastard, that doesn't mean he should be shot. And you can't claim trying to wrestle the officers weapon as a defense when the guy was running away. Police should respond with deadly force only when confronted with equal deadly force. Shooting someone with no gun in their hand doesn't fall into that category.

Of course, leave it to Fox News to play up this part of the story --- and they'll end up with egg all over their face as usual. Notice how they have "comments closed" for this article? It's because the comments section would be filled with racist rhetoric.

It was confirmed it was him in the video. Same clothes and evidence stolen during the robbery was on Brown.

iSpyCams · 08-15-2014, 03:19 PM

I don't get the disconnect where adult webmasters are so quick to judge people. Does it somehow escape your dysfunctional self medicated minds that we are also a misunderstood minority to whom the benefit of the doubt is seldom awarded?

Granted, we are less likely to be shot in the back for jay-walking, but still it seems most of us would like to see law enforcement behave with professionalism at all times or face the same penalties as anyone else when they don't.

The simple facts are:

You don't shoot someone in the back.

You don't shoot someone who is running from you.

You don't shoot someone because you lost a fight.

You don't apply the death penalty to anyone, ever, unless you are a jury of his peers, in a court of law.

Extra-judicial killings make us ALL less safe, less free, they are an affront to the concept of law, they undermine the credibility of all law enforcement everywhere, and are just plain murder.

If the guy had been shot in the face I would feel a lot different about it, but as it stands, this is fucked up shit, it's happening too much, and it needs to stop.

WDF · 08-15-2014, 03:33 PM

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"Justifiable Homicides" seem to be a rising trend recently!

I said it before I will repeat it again.

Matt 26z · 08-15-2014, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

The simple facts are:

You don't shoot someone in the back.

You don't shoot someone who is running from you.

You don't shoot someone because you lost a fight.

You don't apply the death penalty to anyone, ever, unless you are a jury of his peers, in a court of law.

You left one fact off your "simple facts" list:

Don't rob a store and then walk down the middle of the street holding up traffic while on your power trip and then attack the police officer who tells you to get on the sidewalk.

blackmonsters · 08-15-2014, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

If Obama had a son...

He'd be your mama.

Matt 26z · 08-15-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

He'd be your mama.

Here, let me fix that for you:

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

He'd beat your mama.

blackmonsters · 08-15-2014, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Here, let me fix that for you:

I still win because my joke was first.

iSpyCams · 08-15-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

You left one fact off your "simple facts" list:

Don't rob a store and then walk down the middle of the street holding up traffic while on your power trip and then attack the police officer who tells you to get on the sidewalk.

Show me the law where that gets the death penalty administered on the spot with no trial.

SuckOnThis · 08-15-2014, 04:55 PM

I find it hilarious the same people that defended Zimmerman now know for a fact this kid tried to reach inside a cop car and try to take a cops gun from him. The same people that yesterday claimed cops were nothing more than an arm for Obama's socialist agenda now today think this cops word is as good as gold.

These same cops beat a man in 2009 and then charged him for getting blood on their uniforms. Police apologists have got to be the sickest bunch.

Police in Ferguson, Missouri, once charged a man with destruction of property for bleeding on their uniforms while four of them allegedly beat him.

?On and/or about the 20th day of Sept. 20, 2009 at or near 222 S. Florissant within the corporate limits of Ferguson, Missouri, the above named defendant did then and there unlawfully commit the offense of ?property damage? to wit did transfer blood to the uniform,? reads the charge sheet.

The address is the headquarters of the Ferguson Police Department, where a 52-year-old welder named Henry Davis was taken in the predawn hours on that date. He had been arrested for an outstanding warrant that proved to actually be for another man of the same surname, but a different middle name and Social Security number.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...loody-lie.html

Matt 26z · 08-15-2014, 07:09 PM

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Show me the law where that gets the death penalty administered on the spot with no trial.

If you attack a lone police officer, don't be surprised if you are putting him in a position to feel as though he must use lethal force to defend himself.

While there is no known footage of the Michael Brown incident, watch this other one....

TheSquealer · 08-15-2014, 07:52 PM

Obviously a violent thug couldn't have possibly been going for a police officers gun, minutes after a robbery which he committed, resulting in him getting shot. Thats just crazy talk.

iSpyCams · 08-16-2014, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

If you attack a lone police officer, don't be surprised if you are putting him in a position to feel as though he must use lethal force to defend himself.

While there is no known footage of the Michael Brown incident, watch this other one....

Did he get shot in the back too? That's a pretty amazing shot to make, when someone is reaching into your car.

What's your justification for the guy who got strangled to death for selling a cigarette?

How about the guy who filmed it being arrested? How about his wife being arrested?

Grapesoda · 08-16-2014, 10:05 AM

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Yes he did.
I wish our cops had guns.

whoa! politically UN correct

Grapesoda · 08-16-2014, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Obviously a violent thug couldn't have possibly been going for a police officers gun, minutes after a robbery which he committed, resulting in him getting shot. Thats just crazy talk.

a republican smear campaign against the black man for sure...

Grapesoda · 08-16-2014, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

If Obama had a son...

OR Obama as a young man ...

baddog · 08-16-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

the first news report said they were confronted by police for walking in the road.

not a robbery.

Well, that settles that then. The media has never been wrong.

bronco67 · 08-16-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

I find it hilarious the same people that defended Zimmerman now know for a fact this kid tried to reach inside a cop car and try to take a cops gun from him. The same people that yesterday claimed cops were nothing more than an arm for Obama's socialist agenda now today think this cops word is as good as gold.

These same cops beat a man in 2009 and then charged him for getting blood on their uniforms. Police apologists have got to be the sickest bunch.

Police in Ferguson, Missouri, once charged a man with destruction of property for bleeding on their uniforms while four of them allegedly beat him.

“On and/or about the 20th day of Sept. 20, 2009 at or near 222 S. Florissant within the corporate limits of Ferguson, Missouri, the above named defendant did then and there unlawfully commit the offense of ‘property damage’ to wit did transfer blood to the uniform,” reads the charge sheet.

The address is the headquarters of the Ferguson Police Department, where a 52-year-old welder named Henry Davis was taken in the predawn hours on that date. He had been arrested for an outstanding warrant that proved to actually be for another man of the same surname, but a different middle name and Social Security number.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...loody-lie.html

It's already known that there's an institutional racism in that police department (and probably a lot of others too). Did you see the story about the LT who told officers to arrest as many black people as possible -- right in front of black officers?

I'm not saying police in heavily black areas don't have a hard job, because some bad shit does go down at the hands of the black folks in those neighborhoods....but Police can't just go around shooting everyone because they're scared for their own lives.

They're supposed to protect and serve us. Their oath doesn't say to protect themselves upon feeling the least bit threatened. It pisses me off to see stories about a cop shooting a guy with a knife who is 15 feet away while there's other officers there to back him up, or shooting someone's dog during a bogus raid -- or cowering behind armored vehicles while a shooter rampages through a high school with automatic weapons (Columbine). Your job might involve serious bodily harm because your first priority is to serve us. We're your boss but you've forgotten that as you act like your lords and masters.

As far as Ferguson goes, hire a police force that's more reflective of the population.

GregE · 08-16-2014, 10:32 AM

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You left one fact off your "simple facts" list:

Don't rob a store and then walk down the middle of the street holding up traffic while on your power trip and then attack the police officer who tells you to get on the sidewalk.

Show me the law where that gets the death penalty administered on the spot with no trial.

Darwin's Law perhaps?

Not taking sides here, just saying.

Rochard · 08-16-2014, 10:33 AM

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Their oath doesn't say to protect themselves upon feeling the least bit threatened.

And that sounds really great on paper - right up the point where you have a suspected of multiple felony crimes trying to steal away your firearm and potentially killing you.

adultchatpay · 08-16-2014, 11:00 AM

Someone slained a running man. So sad it has to end that way.

iSpyCams · 08-16-2014, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE

Darwin's Law perhaps?

Not taking sides here, just saying.

Wouldn't need cops at all if we lived by that law.

tony286 · 08-16-2014, 12:13 PM

they have a problem there
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08...otests-images/ (the pastor is white)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08...mous-dispatch/
Ferguson Police Excuses Destroyed As Anonymous Shares Dispatch Recordings (AUDIO)

FYI The cop wasnt aware of the robbery.

bigluv · 08-16-2014, 12:37 PM

What do you do when a whole subculture exists that accepts, promotes, glorifies, and then propagates acting like an animal.

I don't think the framers ever anticipated something like that.

It may be time to contemplate that, if you don't act civilized, you no longer deserve the benefits civilization imparts. When it's one person, ok, whatever. When it's a percentage of society that may threaten the whole? Maybe extraordinary measures are necessary.

blackmonsters · 08-16-2014, 12:54 PM

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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08...mous-dispatch/
Ferguson Police Excuses Destroyed As Anonymous Shares Dispatch Recordings (AUDIO)

For some reason it was funny as hell to me to hell the police call in about a lady involved in a panic attack.

blackmonsters · 08-16-2014, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bigluv

What do you do when a whole subculture exists that accepts, promotes, glorifies, and then propagates acting like an animal.

I don't think the framers ever anticipated something like that.

It may be time to contemplate that, if you don't act civilized, you no longer deserve the benefits civilization imparts. When it's one person, ok, whatever. When it's a percentage of society that may threaten the whole? Maybe extraordinary measures are necessary.

Or the animals can just get rid of the likes of you, either is fine with me.

Trend · 08-16-2014, 04:11 PM

What I'll never understand is why some of you get all bent out of shape when a piece of shit like this guy gets killed?

Hell, I figured the overpopulation crowd would be happy.

Barry-xlovecam · 08-16-2014, 04:53 PM

Tennessee v. Garner look it up.

There are some justifiable circumstances for the use of deadly force. Shooting a fleeing unarmed suspect, in the back, is not one of them. Notwithstanding some special circumstance of the suspect's intent of lethal danger to other police officers or the immediate civilian persons.

This looks like a bad shoot to me if the witness accounts are accurate.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda should make no difference.

NewOldPlayer · 08-16-2014, 04:53 PM

What happened between the police officer and the killing of that boy is terrible. I hope the cop gets what he deserves, like all criminals, I hope the justice system will punish him accordingly.

What I don't understand is when a tragedy like this happens, why does the entire black community rise up together and protest? Why when a black child gets killed it turns into a huge ordeal?

Black men shoot and kill more people than all other ethnicities combined in the US and when kids (white kids and black kids) are getting gunned down in the streets of Chicago weekly, where is the black community with their protests and street marching?

Why does the black community only jump on the band wagon when a black kid gets killed by a cop, but when 1000's of black men are killing people, the black community looks the other way?

It's a shameful double standard that is going on.

"We can kill anybody we want to, but if you shoot just one black child, we are going to rise above and riot in the streets."

I'm personally ashamed at how the black community responds to these types of situations.

I feel terrible for that young child who got shot, but I feel worse for the violence and ignorance it triggers in the black community.

bigluv · 08-16-2014, 04:59 PM

This is the difference. If it happens to a piece of trash white kid, people don't riot because they are like, meh while he may not have deserved it he certainly wasn't doing himself any favours.

For some reason black society sees it differently.

bigluv · 08-16-2014, 05:04 PM

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Or the animals can just get rid of the likes of you, either is fine with me.

That's not very neighbourly bruh.

Seriously though, I can only assume that you don't rob liquor stores, beat up store clerks, and in general you conduct yourself like a human being. We have that in common.
As far as I can see, we should be on the same side. The "non trash, non thug" side.

No?

blackmonsters · 08-16-2014, 05:08 PM

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What happened between the police officer and the killing of that boy is terrible. I hope the cop gets what he deserves, like all criminals, I hope the justice system will punish him accordingly.

What I don't understand is when a tragedy like this happens, why does the entire black community rise up together and protest? Why when a black child gets killed it turns into a huge ordeal?

Black men shoot and kill more people than all other ethnicities combined in the US and when kids (white kids and black kids) are getting gunned down in the streets of Chicago weekly, where is the black community with their protests and street marching?

Why does the black community only jump on the band wagon when a black kid gets killed by a cop, but when 1000's of black men are killing people, the black community looks the other way?

It's a shameful double standard that is going on.

"We can kill anybody we want to, but if you shoot just one black child, we are going to rise above and riot in the streets."

I'm personally ashamed at how the black community responds to these types of situations.

I feel terrible for that young child who got shot, but I feel worse for the violence and ignorance it triggers in the black community.

Yeah, it sucks when a community overreacts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IowgsYwFM0g

slapass · 08-16-2014, 06:25 PM

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Yeah exactly; and why talk shit to a cop and walk in the middle of the street after doing a robbery?

Just get out of the street and get away with the robbery right?

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And this makes no sense to you but a cop just pulling and firing on kid giving himself up in front of a crowded street seems totally logical?

Sly · 08-16-2014, 06:41 PM

In summary:

Group A is upset because Group B assumes that Person XYZ is guilty.

Group B is upset because Group A assumes that Person ABC is guilty.

slapass · 08-16-2014, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bigluv

What do you do when a whole subculture exists that accepts, promotes, glorifies, and then propagates acting like an animal.

I don't think the framers ever anticipated something like that.

It may be time to contemplate that, if you don't act civilized, you no longer deserve the benefits civilization imparts. When it's one person, ok, whatever. When it's a percentage of society that may threaten the whole? Maybe extraordinary measures are necessary.

That is an extreme depiction of the police.

blackmonsters · 08-16-2014, 08:38 PM

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And this makes no sense to you but a cop just pulling and firing on kid giving himself up in front of a crowded street seems totally logical?

No, I think people are protesting because they think something totally illogical happened.

Rochard · 08-16-2014, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Tennessee v. Garner look it up.

There are some justifiable circumstances for the use of deadly force. Shooting a fleeing unarmed suspect, in the back, is not one of them. Notwithstanding some special circumstance of the suspect's intent of lethal danger to other police officers or the immediate civilian persons.

This looks like a bad shoot to me if the witness accounts are accurate.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda should make no difference.

I think you might be wrong.

Tennessee v. Garner says that a police officer cannot shot a kid for purse snatching. They said "cops couldn't shoot every felon who tried to escape". However, at the same time, the same court said "if you've got a violent person who's fleeing, you can shoot them to stop their flight".

In this case you can argue the kid was a "violent" person - No matter if the officer knew about the robbery (a violent felony), the kid did attack him, attempt to take his firearm, and potentially risked the life of the officer.

If you accept the police version of the story, the kid attempted to steal the officer's firearm and was going to shoot him. At that point you cannot deny he was a violent person, and you cannot deny he was a threat to society.

GFED · 08-17-2014, 12:54 AM

Last I was told, a cop can shoot you in the back if you're running from a felony. Unless laws have changed...

Rochard · 08-17-2014, 06:30 AM

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Last I was told, a cop can shoot you in the back if you're running from a felony. Unless laws have changed...

I believe this is the case - Once you've crossed that threshold for legal use of deadly force you can use deadly force in most cases.

What most people don't understand is that a potentially deadly situation with a police officer and a suspect is not over until the suspect is taken into custody and is handcuffed, secured, and locked in a police car. This kid already wrestled with a police officer moments before, tried to take his weapon, and a shot was fired - what's to stop him from putting his hands up, laying down, and then trying to grab the weapon again?

I also don't think it went down the way the witness said. I see it on COPs all the time - police get suspect to put their hands up or behind their neck, but the danger is far from over. Maybe the kid did stop, and maybe he did put his hands up, but most likely he failed to follow any other instructions the officer was giving him.

slapass · 08-17-2014, 06:40 AM

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I believe this is the case - Once you've crossed that threshold for legal use of deadly force you can use deadly force in most cases.

What most people don't understand is that a potentially deadly situation with a police officer and a suspect is not over until the suspect is taken into custody and is handcuffed, secured, and locked in a police car. This kid already wrestled with a police officer moments before, tried to take his weapon, and a shot was fired - what's to stop him from putting his hands up, laying down, and then trying to grab the weapon again?

I also don't think it went down the way the witness said. I see it on COPs all the time - police get suspect to put their hands up or behind their neck, but the danger is far from over. Maybe the kid did stop, and maybe he did put his hands up, but most likely he failed to follow any other instructions the officer was giving him.

This was a bad shooting. We can justify all we want but the facts are against the cop.

Barry-xlovecam · 08-17-2014, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I think you might be wrong.

Tennessee v. Garner says that a police officer cannot shot a kid for purse snatching. They said "cops couldn't shoot every felon who tried to escape". However, at the same time, the same court said "if you've got a violent person who's fleeing, you can shoot them to stop their flight".

In this case you can argue the kid was a "violent" person - No matter if the officer knew about the robbery (a violent felony), the kid did attack him, attempt to take his firearm, and potentially risked the life of the officer.

If you accept the police version of the story, the kid attempted to steal the officer's firearm and was going to shoot him. At that point you cannot deny he was a violent person, and you cannot deny he was a threat to society.

Read it a few times -- The defendant won judgement in his favor in the US District court, the Appellate court reversed the District Court, the Supreme Court remanded the case back to the Appellate court for rehearing on the 4th amendment issues. That is the polite way of saying to the Appellate Court you ruled in error.

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The Court of Appeals reversed.

Held:

The Tennessee statute is unconstitutional insofar as it authorizes the use of deadly force against, as in this case, an apparently unarmed, nondangerous fleeing suspect; such force may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others. Pp. 7-22. [471 U.S. 1, 2]

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...vol=471&page=1

Barry-xlovecam · 08-17-2014, 07:53 AM

That said, I read

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A key witness ? Brown?s friend Dorian Johnson ? has told the FBI that he thought the robbery was a ?prank,? said Johnson?s attorney. In an interview with federal agents, Johnson has said Brown was hit by one bullet, then ? as Brown pleaded for his life ? Wilson fired ?five or six? more times.

And when the shooting stopped, Johnson and his legal team have told investigators, the police officer who pulled the trigger did nothing to save the man he?d just shot. ?The officer doesn?t attempt to resuscitate,? Johnson?s attorney, former St. Louis mayor Freeman Bosley Jr., said in an interview Saturday. ?He does not call for medical help. The officer didn?t call it in that someone had been shot.?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...390_story.html

If that witness account is true, that was a bad shoot, and caused a riot.

It's for the courts to figure out.

There must be underlying issues in that suburb of St. Louis that fuels this rioting just as the race riots in the 1960s were not just about the incident that ignited them. Whenever you concentrate people into a ghetto where they are economically and politically disadvantaged you create the foundation for the justification of violence, be it in the USA or in the Gaza Strip, the same outcome, perhaps from different circumstances, will occur.

You reap what you sow they say.

Matt 26z · 08-17-2014, 04:39 PM

New video includes inadvertent eyewitness testimony.

The eyewitness can be heard saying that Brown ran away and then turned around and rushed the police officer who then shot him. This is completely different than what Brown's friend says happened.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/1686...uson-shooting/

#1 How’d he get from there to there?
#2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck
{crosstalk}
#2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him
{crosstalk}
#2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –
#1. Oh, the police got his gun
#2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him

mineistaken · 08-17-2014, 04:57 PM

Well despite the circumstances the fact remains: Country have one less "credit to society" thug. You can not see it as a bad thing.

mineistaken · 08-17-2014, 05:02 PM

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if you don't act civilized, you no longer deserve the benefits civilization imparts.

Could not be said any better

SilentKnight · 08-17-2014, 07:34 PM

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Whenever you concentrate people into a ghetto where they are economically and politically disadvantaged you create the foundation for the justification of violence

"justification of violence"

Bullshit.

I live in a town that's had its major manufacturing industry literally decimated in the past two decades. Dozens of major steel-manufacturing based companies and textile mills are gone. Good-paying jobs are long gone...and what is left is minimum wage paying service and tourist industry jobs (Burger King, Harveys, McDees)...and call centres.

Our hospitals and schools are evaporating.

There is no political clout in the region to sway political favour to turn the situation around.

My wife and I are among the fortunate (and dwindling) minority to still have decent-paying jobs in the area.

Yet, if your assertion was correct - there'd be violent rioting in the streets.

But there isn't.

Nothing justifies violence. That utter lack of logic behind trashing your own neighbourhood because you're pissed off about issues - stymies me. Following that flow of thought - if I lose my job tomorrow and can't pay my water bill...maybe I should take a baseball bat to my neighbour's car. I like the guy and all - but what the fuck. The foundation for the justification of my violence isn't my fault, right? Pass it off as me being a product of my environment?

Bullshit.

People have to man-up, grow a set - and take responsibility for their actions. Stop fabricating issues as an excuse to trash the place.

xKingx · 08-17-2014, 07:52 PM

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"justification of violence"

Bullshit.

I live in a town that's had its major manufacturing industry literally decimated in the past two decades. Dozens of major steel-manufacturing based companies and textile mills are gone. Good-paying jobs are long gone...and what is left is minimum wage paying service and tourist industry jobs (Burger King, Harveys, McDees)...and call centres.

Our hospitals and schools are evaporating.

There is no political clout in the region to sway political favour to turn the situation around.

My wife and I are among the fortunate (and dwindling) minority to still have decent-paying jobs in the area.

Yet, if your assertion was correct - there'd be violent rioting in the streets.

But there isn't.

Nothing justifies violence. That utter lack of logic behind trashing your own neighbourhood because you're pissed off about issues - stymies me. Following that flow of thought - if I lose my job tomorrow and can't pay my water bill...maybe I should take a baseball bat to my neighbour's car. I like the guy and all - but what the fuck. The foundation for the justification of my violence isn't my fault, right? Pass it off as me being a product of my environment?

Bullshit.

People have to man-up, grow a set - and take responsibility for their actions. Stop fabricating issues as an excuse to trash the place.

Slick · 08-17-2014, 08:07 PM

Ok, how about this ? If the dumb fuck didn't rob a store and attack the cop, he'd still be alive today. Even without a weapon, if a cop fears for his life, isn't he allowed to shoot even if he doesn't have a weapon ?? And who knows what the truth is there, it'll probably come out that he shot the guy as he was attacking him next.

I fucking hate how all this shit comes up and it's always the racist card played when in most cases they do stupid shit. Don't break the law and cooperate and you won't have to worry about this shit. If you break the law and run from the cops or reach in your coat like you're grabbing a gun and get shot (different story from the past), and you get shot and killed, too fucking bad for you.

And all this rioting bullshit, they don't have any fucking clue who the guy was or could care less. Apparently, they don't care about their community or their neighbors that work to make a living at the businesses that they're burning down.

ezgirl · 08-17-2014, 09:25 PM

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There is at least 3 eye witnesses that all say the same thing, that he was running away from the cop and shot in the back, turned around with his hands up and the cop emptied his clip. Even if he did attack the cop (which all witnesses claim he did not) it is still considered murder if he was running away and was shot in the back.

Link below to autopsy report of Dr Baden, performed at the request of the Brown family, shows Brown shot six times, twice in top of head and four in the right arm. ALL WOUNDS TO THE FRONT OF THE BODY. Now if these "witnesses" claim he was shot from behind but the Brown's own autopsy shows he was shot in the front, what does that say about the truthfulness of the "witnesses"? I have seen those vivid interviews, how he was shot in the back as he ran, "jerked" when the bullets hit him, then turned around facing the officer with his hands raised and was then mercilessly shot by the officer. I saw one black man describing what he saw, that Brown was first shot from behind, then turned toward the officer, raising his hands above his head, pleading and stating he was not armed, then falling to his knees before the officer with his hands raised and then "executed" by the officer. It looks to me like there is a whole lot of creative story telling going on here. Link to Dr. Baden autopsy here: http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nati...Section_Bottom

Why would these people have to lie?

Captain Peacock · 08-17-2014, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick

Ok, how about this ? If the dumb fuck didn't rob a store and attack the cop, he'd still be alive today. Even without a weapon, if a cop fears for his life, isn't he allowed to shoot even if he doesn't have a weapon ?? And who knows what the truth is there, it'll probably come out that he shot the guy as he was attacking him next.

That makes sense for law-abiding people.

08-15-2014, 03:19 PM	#53
iSpyCams Amateur Gynecologist Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Medellin Posts: 4,436	I don't get the disconnect where adult webmasters are so quick to judge people. Does it somehow escape your dysfunctional self medicated minds that we are also a misunderstood minority to whom the benefit of the doubt is seldom awarded? Granted, we are less likely to be shot in the back for jay-walking, but still it seems most of us would like to see law enforcement behave with professionalism at all times or face the same penalties as anyone else when they don't. The simple facts are: You don't shoot someone in the back. You don't shoot someone who is running from you. You don't shoot someone because you lost a fight. You don't apply the death penalty to anyone, ever, unless you are a jury of his peers, in a court of law. Extra-judicial killings make us ALL less safe, less free, they are an affront to the concept of law, they undermine the credibility of all law enforcement everywhere, and are just plain murder. If the guy had been shot in the face I would feel a lot different about it, but as it stands, this is fucked up shit, it's happening too much, and it needs to stop. __________________ - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

08-15-2014, 07:52 PM	#62
TheSquealer Mayor of Thneedville Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,258	Obviously a violent thug couldn't have possibly been going for a police officers gun, minutes after a robbery which he committed, resulting in him getting shot. Thats just crazy talk. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

08-16-2014, 12:37 PM	#74
bigluv Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 850	What do you do when a whole subculture exists that accepts, promotes, glorifies, and then propagates acting like an animal. I don't think the framers ever anticipated something like that. It may be time to contemplate that, if you don't act civilized, you no longer deserve the benefits civilization imparts. When it's one person, ok, whatever. When it's a percentage of society that may threaten the whole? Maybe extraordinary measures are necessary. Last edited by bigluv; 08-16-2014 at 12:38 PM..

08-16-2014, 04:53 PM	#78
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Tennessee v. Garner look it up. There are some justifiable circumstances for the use of deadly force. Shooting a fleeing unarmed suspect, in the back, is not one of them. Notwithstanding some special circumstance of the suspect's intent of lethal danger to other police officers or the immediate civilian persons. This looks like a bad shoot to me if the witness accounts are accurate. Coulda, woulda, shoulda should make no difference.

08-16-2014, 04:53 PM	#79
NewOldPlayer So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 467	What happened between the police officer and the killing of that boy is terrible. I hope the cop gets what he deserves, like all criminals, I hope the justice system will punish him accordingly. What I don't understand is when a tragedy like this happens, why does the entire black community rise up together and protest? Why when a black child gets killed it turns into a huge ordeal? Black men shoot and kill more people than all other ethnicities combined in the US and when kids (white kids and black kids) are getting gunned down in the streets of Chicago weekly, where is the black community with their protests and street marching? Why does the black community only jump on the band wagon when a black kid gets killed by a cop, but when 1000's of black men are killing people, the black community looks the other way? It's a shameful double standard that is going on. "We can kill anybody we want to, but if you shoot just one black child, we are going to rise above and riot in the streets." I'm personally ashamed at how the black community responds to these types of situations. I feel terrible for that young child who got shot, but I feel worse for the violence and ignorance it triggers in the black community. Last edited by NewOldPlayer; 08-16-2014 at 04:55 PM..

08-15-2014, 02:59 PM	#51
OneHungLo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Your mom's front hole Posts: 40,906	If Obama had a son...

08-15-2014, 04:55 PM	#60
SuckOnThis So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my head Posts: 6,844	I find it hilarious the same people that defended Zimmerman now know for a fact this kid tried to reach inside a cop car and try to take a cops gun from him. The same people that yesterday claimed cops were nothing more than an arm for Obama's socialist agenda now today think this cops word is as good as gold. These same cops beat a man in 2009 and then charged him for getting blood on their uniforms. Police apologists have got to be the sickest bunch. Police in Ferguson, Missouri, once charged a man with destruction of property for bleeding on their uniforms while four of them allegedly beat him. ?On and/or about the 20th day of Sept. 20, 2009 at or near 222 S. Florissant within the corporate limits of Ferguson, Missouri, the above named defendant did then and there unlawfully commit the offense of ?property damage? to wit did transfer blood to the uniform,? reads the charge sheet. The address is the headquarters of the Ferguson Police Department, where a 52-year-old welder named Henry Davis was taken in the predawn hours on that date. He had been arrested for an outstanding warrant that proved to actually be for another man of the same surname, but a different middle name and Social Security number. http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...loody-lie.html

08-16-2014, 11:00 AM	#71
adultchatpay Let's Make Money Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,784	Someone slained a running man. So sad it has to end that way.

08-16-2014, 12:13 PM	#73
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	they have a problem there http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08...otests-images/ (the pastor is white) http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08...mous-dispatch/ Ferguson Police Excuses Destroyed As Anonymous Shares Dispatch Recordings (AUDIO) FYI The cop wasnt aware of the robbery.

08-16-2014, 04:11 PM	#77
Trend Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mexico and Midwest Posts: 612	What I'll never understand is why some of you get all bent out of shape when a piece of shit like this guy gets killed? Hell, I figured the overpopulation crowd would be happy.

08-16-2014, 04:59 PM	#80
bigluv Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 850	This is the difference. If it happens to a piece of trash white kid, people don't riot because they are like, meh while he may not have deserved it he certainly wasn't doing himself any favours. For some reason black society sees it differently.

08-16-2014, 06:41 PM	#84
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	In summary: Group A is upset because Group B assumes that Person XYZ is guilty. Group B is upset because Group A assumes that Person ABC is guilty. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

08-17-2014, 12:54 AM	#88
GFED Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 8,120	Last I was told, a cop can shoot you in the back if you're running from a felony. Unless laws have changed...

08-17-2014, 04:39 PM	#93
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	New video includes inadvertent eyewitness testimony. The eyewitness can be heard saying that Brown ran away and then turned around and rushed the police officer who then shot him. This is completely different than what Brown's friend says happened. http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/1686...uson-shooting/ #1 How’d he get from there to there? #2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck {crosstalk} #2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him {crosstalk} #2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him – #1. Oh, the police got his gun #2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him Last edited by Matt 26z; 08-17-2014 at 04:42 PM..

08-17-2014, 04:57 PM	#94
mineistaken See signature :) Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ICQ 363 097 773 Posts: 29,656	Well despite the circumstances the fact remains: Country have one less "credit to society" thug. You can not see it as a bad thing.

08-17-2014, 08:07 PM	#98
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	Ok, how about this ? If the dumb fuck didn't rob a store and attack the cop, he'd still be alive today. Even without a weapon, if a cop fears for his life, isn't he allowed to shoot even if he doesn't have a weapon ?? And who knows what the truth is there, it'll probably come out that he shot the guy as he was attacking him next. I fucking hate how all this shit comes up and it's always the racist card played when in most cases they do stupid shit. Don't break the law and cooperate and you won't have to worry about this shit. If you break the law and run from the cops or reach in your coat like you're grabbing a gun and get shot (different story from the past), and you get shot and killed, too fucking bad for you. And all this rioting bullshit, they don't have any fucking clue who the guy was or could care less. Apparently, they don't care about their community or their neighbors that work to make a living at the businesses that they're burning down.