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Scott McD 08-15-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20193670)
so that makes it ok to shoot him dead? come on man..

I'm the last to be anti cop myself but that is fucking brutal.

Never said or implied that...

WDF 08-15-2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20193784)
Yeah exactly; and why talk shit to a cop and walk in the middle of the street after doing a robbery?

:1orglaugh

Just get out of the street and get away with the robbery right?

.

It happens all the time. :1orglaugh

1 thing for sure is you do not attract unwanted attention to yourself if you are trying to get away with something you should not be doing/have just done. :pimp

I think the kid might have been on something, impaired/high/drunk or there was some psych issue. Common sense says do not act in a threatening manner to a cop.

"Justifiable Homicides" seem to be a rising trend recently!

blackmonsters 08-15-2014 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WDF (Post 20193805)
It happens all the time. :1orglaugh

1 thing for sure is you do not attract unwanted attention to yourself if you are trying to get away with something you should not be doing/have just done. :pimp

I think the kid might have been on something, impaired/high/drunk or there was some psych issue. Common sense says do not act in a threatening manner to a cop.

"Justifiable Homicides" seem to be a rising trend recently!

We are riding different clouds homie.
I consider my argument to be ludicrous.

:1orglaugh

Captain Kawaii 08-15-2014 02:16 PM

Not surprised.

Rochard 08-15-2014 02:16 PM

No one should be shot over a stolen box of cigars.

However, after committing robbery and assaulting someone, then assaulting a police officer and fighting over his gun.... At a certain point in time this crosses the from from a simple crime to multiple felonies, and when you attempt to wrestle away a firearm from a police officer..... At that point you run the risk of getting shot.

nico-t 08-15-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20193565)
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-c...bery-stroe.jpg
"Slain unarmed teen victim of the police getting ready to begin college" Michael Brown physically abusing the store clerk.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/15...bbery-suspect/


Michael Brown, THUG.

Case closed. The protesters and looters can go home.

There's nothing wrong with that! I grab store clerks by the throat all the time, it's completely normal and sane behavior.

WDF 08-15-2014 02:45 PM

Which is why I say he (Mr Brown) must have been in some way impaired.

No innocent person is going to get involved in a physical altercation with a LEO and attempt to control the LEO's firearm.

An individual that is impaired, even unarmed, is a potential serious risk to the public, LEO's, and themselves.

When they become agitated and aggressive there are few choices for a LEO acting alone.

Rochard 08-15-2014 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 20193663)
So one day when your child decides to steal something from a store they deserve to be shot dead? :Oh crap

No one deserves to be shot over stealing something. However, when someone tries to wrestle away a firearm from a police officer.... That's a different story.

bronco67 08-15-2014 02:48 PM

Police Chief has already said the officer who shot Brown had no knowledge of him being a robbery suspect, so it has no bearing on the case. Also, it's not been verified yet that it's him.

Even if it is him being a thug bastard, that doesn't mean he should be shot. And you can't claim trying to wrestle the officers weapon as a defense when the guy was running away. Police should respond with deadly force only when confronted with equal deadly force. Shooting someone with no gun in their hand doesn't fall into that category.

Of course, leave it to Fox News to play up this part of the story --- and they'll end up with egg all over their face as usual. Notice how they have "comments closed" for this article? It's because the comments section would be filled with racist rhetoric.

Sly 08-15-2014 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20193926)

Of course, leave it to Fox News to play up this part of the story --- and they'll end up with egg all over their face as usual. Notice how they have "comments closed" for this article? It's because the comments section would be filled with racist rhetoric.

They also have comments closed for this article: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/0...tcmp=obnetwork

Are they afraid that sex addicts will take over Fox News?

OneHungLo 08-15-2014 02:59 PM

If Obama had a son...

MasturbateFun 08-15-2014 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20193926)
Police Chief has already said the officer who shot Brown had no knowledge of him being a robbery suspect, so it has no bearing on the case. Also, it's not been verified yet that it's him.

Even if it is him being a thug bastard, that doesn't mean he should be shot. And you can't claim trying to wrestle the officers weapon as a defense when the guy was running away. Police should respond with deadly force only when confronted with equal deadly force. Shooting someone with no gun in their hand doesn't fall into that category.

Of course, leave it to Fox News to play up this part of the story --- and they'll end up with egg all over their face as usual. Notice how they have "comments closed" for this article? It's because the comments section would be filled with racist rhetoric.

It was confirmed it was him in the video. Same clothes and evidence stolen during the robbery was on Brown.

iSpyCams 08-15-2014 03:19 PM

I don't get the disconnect where adult webmasters are so quick to judge people. Does it somehow escape your dysfunctional self medicated minds that we are also a misunderstood minority to whom the benefit of the doubt is seldom awarded?

Granted, we are less likely to be shot in the back for jay-walking, but still it seems most of us would like to see law enforcement behave with professionalism at all times or face the same penalties as anyone else when they don't.

The simple facts are:

You don't shoot someone in the back.

You don't shoot someone who is running from you.

You don't shoot someone because you lost a fight.

You don't apply the death penalty to anyone, ever, unless you are a jury of his peers, in a court of law.

Extra-judicial killings make us ALL less safe, less free, they are an affront to the concept of law, they undermine the credibility of all law enforcement everywhere, and are just plain murder.

If the guy had been shot in the face I would feel a lot different about it, but as it stands, this is fucked up shit, it's happening too much, and it needs to stop.

WDF 08-15-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WDF (Post 20193805)
"Justifiable Homicides" seem to be a rising trend recently!

I said it before I will repeat it again. :2 cents:

Matt 26z 08-15-2014 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 20193978)
The simple facts are:

You don't shoot someone in the back.

You don't shoot someone who is running from you.

You don't shoot someone because you lost a fight.

You don't apply the death penalty to anyone, ever, unless you are a jury of his peers, in a court of law.

You left one fact off your "simple facts" list:

Don't rob a store and then walk down the middle of the street holding up traffic while on your power trip and then attack the police officer who tells you to get on the sidewalk.

blackmonsters 08-15-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20193941)
If Obama had a son...

He'd be your mama.

:1orglaugh

Matt 26z 08-15-2014 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20194020)
He'd be your mama.

:1orglaugh

Here, let me fix that for you:

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20194020)
He'd beat your mama.

:1orglaugh


blackmonsters 08-15-2014 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20194029)
Here, let me fix that for you:

I still win because my joke was first.

:1orglaugh

iSpyCams 08-15-2014 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20193994)
You left one fact off your "simple facts" list:

Don't rob a store and then walk down the middle of the street holding up traffic while on your power trip and then attack the police officer who tells you to get on the sidewalk.

Show me the law where that gets the death penalty administered on the spot with no trial.

SuckOnThis 08-15-2014 04:55 PM

I find it hilarious the same people that defended Zimmerman now know for a fact this kid tried to reach inside a cop car and try to take a cops gun from him. The same people that yesterday claimed cops were nothing more than an arm for Obama's socialist agenda now today think this cops word is as good as gold.

These same cops beat a man in 2009 and then charged him for getting blood on their uniforms. Police apologists have got to be the sickest bunch.

Police in Ferguson, Missouri, once charged a man with destruction of property for bleeding on their uniforms while four of them allegedly beat him.

?On and/or about the 20th day of Sept. 20, 2009 at or near 222 S. Florissant within the corporate limits of Ferguson, Missouri, the above named defendant did then and there unlawfully commit the offense of ?property damage? to wit did transfer blood to the uniform,? reads the charge sheet.

The address is the headquarters of the Ferguson Police Department, where a 52-year-old welder named Henry Davis was taken in the predawn hours on that date. He had been arrested for an outstanding warrant that proved to actually be for another man of the same surname, but a different middle name and Social Security number.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...loody-lie.html

Matt 26z 08-15-2014 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 20194078)
Show me the law where that gets the death penalty administered on the spot with no trial.

If you attack a lone police officer, don't be surprised if you are putting him in a position to feel as though he must use lethal force to defend himself.

While there is no known footage of the Michael Brown incident, watch this other one....


TheSquealer 08-15-2014 07:52 PM

Obviously a violent thug couldn't have possibly been going for a police officers gun, minutes after a robbery which he committed, resulting in him getting shot. Thats just crazy talk.

iSpyCams 08-16-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20194189)
If you attack a lone police officer, don't be surprised if you are putting him in a position to feel as though he must use lethal force to defend himself.

While there is no known footage of the Michael Brown incident, watch this other one....


Did he get shot in the back too? That's a pretty amazing shot to make, when someone is reaching into your car.

What's your justification for the guy who got strangled to death for selling a cigarette?

How about the guy who filmed it being arrested? How about his wife being arrested?

Grapesoda 08-16-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Peacock (Post 20193635)
Yes he did.
I wish our cops had guns.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh whoa! politically UN correct

Grapesoda 08-16-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20194202)
Obviously a violent thug couldn't have possibly been going for a police officers gun, minutes after a robbery which he committed, resulting in him getting shot. Thats just crazy talk.

a republican smear campaign against the black man for sure... :2 cents:

Grapesoda 08-16-2014 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20193941)
If Obama had a son...

OR Obama as a young man ...

baddog 08-16-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20193623)
the first news report said they were confronted by police for walking in the road. :2 cents: not a robbery.

Well, that settles that then. The media has never been wrong.


http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/run.../45.1-zoom.jpg

bronco67 08-16-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20194085)
I find it hilarious the same people that defended Zimmerman now know for a fact this kid tried to reach inside a cop car and try to take a cops gun from him. The same people that yesterday claimed cops were nothing more than an arm for Obama's socialist agenda now today think this cops word is as good as gold.

These same cops beat a man in 2009 and then charged him for getting blood on their uniforms. Police apologists have got to be the sickest bunch.

Police in Ferguson, Missouri, once charged a man with destruction of property for bleeding on their uniforms while four of them allegedly beat him.

“On and/or about the 20th day of Sept. 20, 2009 at or near 222 S. Florissant within the corporate limits of Ferguson, Missouri, the above named defendant did then and there unlawfully commit the offense of ‘property damage’ to wit did transfer blood to the uniform,” reads the charge sheet.

The address is the headquarters of the Ferguson Police Department, where a 52-year-old welder named Henry Davis was taken in the predawn hours on that date. He had been arrested for an outstanding warrant that proved to actually be for another man of the same surname, but a different middle name and Social Security number.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...loody-lie.html

It's already known that there's an institutional racism in that police department (and probably a lot of others too). Did you see the story about the LT who told officers to arrest as many black people as possible -- right in front of black officers?

I'm not saying police in heavily black areas don't have a hard job, because some bad shit does go down at the hands of the black folks in those neighborhoods....but Police can't just go around shooting everyone because they're scared for their own lives.

They're supposed to protect and serve us. Their oath doesn't say to protect themselves upon feeling the least bit threatened. It pisses me off to see stories about a cop shooting a guy with a knife who is 15 feet away while there's other officers there to back him up, or shooting someone's dog during a bogus raid -- or cowering behind armored vehicles while a shooter rampages through a high school with automatic weapons (Columbine). Your job might involve serious bodily harm because your first priority is to serve us. We're your boss but you've forgotten that as you act like your lords and masters.

As far as Ferguson goes, hire a police force that's more reflective of the population.

GregE 08-16-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 20194078)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z View Post
You left one fact off your "simple facts" list:

Don't rob a store and then walk down the middle of the street holding up traffic while on your power trip and then attack the police officer who tells you to get on the sidewalk.

Show me the law where that gets the death penalty administered on the spot with no trial.

Darwin's Law perhaps?

Not taking sides here, just saying.

Rochard 08-16-2014 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20194562)
Their oath doesn't say to protect themselves upon feeling the least bit threatened.

And that sounds really great on paper - right up the point where you have a suspected of multiple felony crimes trying to steal away your firearm and potentially killing you.

adultchatpay 08-16-2014 11:00 AM

Someone slained a running man. So sad it has to end that way.

iSpyCams 08-16-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 20194573)
Darwin's Law perhaps?

Not taking sides here, just saying.

Wouldn't need cops at all if we lived by that law.

tony286 08-16-2014 12:13 PM

they have a problem there
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08...otests-images/ (the pastor is white)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08...mous-dispatch/
Ferguson Police Excuses Destroyed As Anonymous Shares Dispatch Recordings (AUDIO)


FYI The cop wasnt aware of the robbery.

bigluv 08-16-2014 12:37 PM

What do you do when a whole subculture exists that accepts, promotes, glorifies, and then propagates acting like an animal.

I don't think the framers ever anticipated something like that.

It may be time to contemplate that, if you don't act civilized, you no longer deserve the benefits civilization imparts. When it's one person, ok, whatever. When it's a percentage of society that may threaten the whole? Maybe extraordinary measures are necessary.

blackmonsters 08-16-2014 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20194670)
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08...mous-dispatch/
Ferguson Police Excuses Destroyed As Anonymous Shares Dispatch Recordings (AUDIO)

For some reason it was funny as hell to me to hell the police call in about a lady involved in a panic attack.

:1orglaugh

blackmonsters 08-16-2014 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 20194687)
What do you do when a whole subculture exists that accepts, promotes, glorifies, and then propagates acting like an animal.

I don't think the framers ever anticipated something like that.

It may be time to contemplate that, if you don't act civilized, you no longer deserve the benefits civilization imparts. When it's one person, ok, whatever. When it's a percentage of society that may threaten the whole? Maybe extraordinary measures are necessary.

Or the animals can just get rid of the likes of you, either is fine with me.

:2 cents:

Trend 08-16-2014 04:11 PM

What I'll never understand is why some of you get all bent out of shape when a piece of shit like this guy gets killed?

Hell, I figured the overpopulation crowd would be happy.

Barry-xlovecam 08-16-2014 04:53 PM

Tennessee v. Garner look it up.

There are some justifiable circumstances for the use of deadly force. Shooting a fleeing unarmed suspect, in the back, is not one of them. Notwithstanding some special circumstance of the suspect's intent of lethal danger to other police officers or the immediate civilian persons.

This looks like a bad shoot to me if the witness accounts are accurate.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda should make no difference.

NewOldPlayer 08-16-2014 04:53 PM

What happened between the police officer and the killing of that boy is terrible. I hope the cop gets what he deserves, like all criminals, I hope the justice system will punish him accordingly.

What I don't understand is when a tragedy like this happens, why does the entire black community rise up together and protest? Why when a black child gets killed it turns into a huge ordeal?

Black men shoot and kill more people than all other ethnicities combined in the US and when kids (white kids and black kids) are getting gunned down in the streets of Chicago weekly, where is the black community with their protests and street marching?

Why does the black community only jump on the band wagon when a black kid gets killed by a cop, but when 1000's of black men are killing people, the black community looks the other way?

It's a shameful double standard that is going on.

"We can kill anybody we want to, but if you shoot just one black child, we are going to rise above and riot in the streets."

I'm personally ashamed at how the black community responds to these types of situations.

I feel terrible for that young child who got shot, but I feel worse for the violence and ignorance it triggers in the black community.

bigluv 08-16-2014 04:59 PM

This is the difference. If it happens to a piece of trash white kid, people don't riot because they are like, meh while he may not have deserved it he certainly wasn't doing himself any favours.

For some reason black society sees it differently.


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