How much are models earning for b/g scenes these days?

[Si]

How much are models earning for b/g scenes these days?

Fairly simple question perhaps, but what about if she was petite (5 foot), super fit (abs and all), 90-100 lbs, and had a nice big pair of fake tits.

Any rough ideas?

[wehateporn]

Are were talking about backgammon scenes?

[NALEM]

Originally Posted by Si

How much are models earning for b/g scenes these days?

Fairly simple question perhaps, but what about if she was petite (5 foot), super fit (abs and all), 90-100 lbs, and had a nice big pair of fake tits.

Any rough ideas?

And the famous question "How long is a piece of string?" applies here nicely.

Depends on many factors: where she lives, her level of experience and recognition, her current financial situation, and your negotiation skills.

500 to 650 USD low to mid range average for an unknown. Everyone else agree?

[billywatson]

LA rates run $800 to $1500 (and in some cases higher) depending on the model.

I'd say average is $900.

[NALEM]

Originally Posted by billywatson

LA rates run $800 to $1500 (and in some cases higher) depending on the model.

I'd say average is $900.

Billy are you including the agency fee in that?

[ravenazrael]

In 2008 Jenna Doll told me she was getting paid 500-600 bucks and she had to pay her transportation. I think wages have not gone up that much in general in 6 years

[_Richard_]

seems to be a current ongoing discussion, no experience but i have seen numbers between 650 - 1500, with billywatson posting the highest rates here

[Ramster]

$500-600? lol Maybe amateur girls off craigslist in the middle of nowhere. Europe as well can be that cheap generally but not for a known girl.

LA Agencies new girl or not are at $800-$1000. You can get cheaper if you multi-book a girl or girls from one agent and it is a "simple" shoot. Want to rail her for half the day and she has to be there all day for 8-10 hours then it can be higher. As already said top girls are easily $1500 per scene.

[aka123]

For what that b/g stands for?

[Si]

Originally Posted by aka123

For what that b/g stands for?

What WeHatePorn said. Backgammon.

[Si]

Well she is an unknown, and doubt she'd even do nude for the amounts you guys are saying. Probably too expensive to make any money off, especially in today's environment.

So.... Who's got a place to stay in LA and an agency contact?

Oh well! Was just someone I happened to meet who said she was interested in doing this kind of work, no big loss!

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by aka123

For what that b/g stands for?

Backgammon.

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by Si

Well she is an unknown, and doubt she'd even do nude for the amounts you guys are saying. Probably too expensive to make any money off, especially in today's environment.

So.... Who's got a place to stay in LA and an agency contact?

Oh well! Was just someone I happened to meet who said she was interested in doing this kind of work, no big loss!

Hook her up with HollyRandall.com . Solo and glamour pays just as much as low boy/girl pays, there's just not near as much work available. Or the guys at digitaldesire.com

[aka123]

Originally Posted by Si

What WeHatePorn said. Backgammon.

Come on, stop that bullshit. What it stands for?

[JayAllan]

Yes Exactly. The girls I shoot are generally at least $1200 before agent fees. But they are excellent girls. New girls will get $800-$1000.

Originally Posted by Ramster

$500-600? lol Maybe amateur girls off craigslist in the middle of nowhere. Europe as well can be that cheap generally but not for a known girl.

LA Agencies new girl or not are at $800-$1000. You can get cheaper if you multi-book a girl or girls from one agent and it is a "simple" shoot. Want to rail her for half the day and she has to be there all day for 8-10 hours then it can be higher. As already said top girls are easily $1500 per scene.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by aka123

Come on, stop that bullshit. What it stands for?

What everyone said,backgammon.

[Juicy D. Links]

I get 500 bucks for a backgammon scene

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Ramster

$500-600? lol Maybe amateur girls off craigslist in the middle of nowhere. Europe as well can be that cheap generally but not for a known girl.

LA Agencies new girl or not are at $800-$1000. You can get cheaper if you multi-book a girl or girls from one agent and it is a "simple" shoot. Want to rail her for half the day and she has to be there all day for 8-10 hours then it can be higher. As already said top girls are easily $1500 per scene.

Now since you mention hours,it is quite unusual this charging method called "per scene" since that scene could take like i dont know 10 days lol.So in the end a porn shoot might end cheaper then hiring a whore .

[aka123]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

What everyone said,backgammon.

So lame. You are like a bunch of nerds talking Klingon and being so smart ass when someone doesn't understand that.

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by NALEM

And the famous question "How long is a piece of string?" applies here nicely.

Exactly twice as long as it is from the middle to one end...

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by aka123

So lame. You are like a bunch of nerds talking Klingon and being so smart ass when someone doesn't understand that.

what could B/G possibly mean, in porn?

backgammon.

only possible obvious clear straightforward on the up and up answer.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

what could B/G possibly mean, in porn?

backgammon.

only possible obvious clear straightforward on the up and up answer.

I don't know what it means. I know HC and such, but as English is not my native language it's pretty hard anyway to start guess what those letters mean. I don't have endless vocabulary in English and especially not in some small niches (like porn webmasters).

[_Richard_]

if i tell you.. you promise not to kill yourself in a fit of embarrassed rage?

[aka123]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

if i tell you.. you promise not to kill yourself in a fit of embarrassed rage?

I promise that.

[_Richard_]

backgammon

edit: jk, boy/girl

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Exactly twice as long as it is from the middle to one end...

[aka123]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

backgammon

edit: jk, boy/girl

Thank you.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by aka123

Thank you.

yarrr.. however, next time, 'google: b/g porn'.. or, any niche.

whatever you do.. don't google 'prolapse blowjob'

im telling you.. don't do it..

[aka123]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

yarrr.. however, next time, 'google: b/g porn'.. or, any niche.

whatever you do.. don't google 'prolapse blowjob'

im telling you.. don't do it..

I googled "bg" and no reasonable results, and even "bg porn" doesn't give very informative results.

I googled just prolapse and it was enough.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by aka123

I googled "bg" and no reasonable results, and even "bg porn" doesn't give very informative results.

I googled just prolapse and it was enough.

but, b/g porn brings up a forum discussing this very question..

really? you went so far as to google prolapse, but prolapse blowjobs is too much?

aren't you a wee bit curious on how anyone could possibly do this?

[aka123]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

but, b/g porn brings up a forum discussing this very question..

really? you went so far as to google prolapse, but prolapse blowjobs is too much?

aren't you a wee bit curious on how anyone could possibly do this?

Your US or CA google might show informative results for "bg", but the standard google in here doesn't end with .com or with .us, and it didn't even came to my mind to try those.

I saw what prolapse is and to preserve my peace of mind I let it be.

[NaughtyRob]

Not with bolt -ons.

Originally Posted by Ramster

Hook her up with HollyRandall.com . Solo and glamour pays just as much as low boy/girl pays, there's just not near as much work available. Or the guys at digitaldesire.com

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by aka123

Your US or CA google might show informative results for "bg", but the standard google in here doesn't end with .com or with .us, and it didn't even came to my mind to try those.

I saw what prolapse is and to preserve my peace of mind I let it be.

http://bit.ly/1tuMrc8 (let me goog that for you) modelmayhem is the first thing you see?

i did tell you not to google it.. just like you shouldn't google 'japanese eel porn'

[aka123]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

i did tell you not to google it.. just like you shouldn't google 'japanese eel porn'

Yeah right, you know enough well what happens if you forbid something like that.

But I still won't google "japanese eel" porn.

[Si]

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Not with bolt -ons.

I was thinking that looking through their sites......

Don't think I'll bother anyway, the more I see of her the more I think she's butters.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by aka123

Yeah right, you know enough well what happens if you forbid something like that.

But I still won't google "japanese eel" porn.

a quick learner! alas

[The Porn Nerd]

I thought B/G rates in LA had dropped really low?
After all, not much production being done today and more girls just film to raise their escort rates anyway....
$400-$600?

[visiono]

how much would models from x-art be getting for b/g including anal? also, does anyone know where these x-art models are from? which eastern europe country, cause i heard ukraine is porn production prohibited.

[JayAllan]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I thought B/G rates in LA had dropped really low?
After all, not much production being done today and more girls just film to raise their escort rates anyway....
$400-$600?

Not much production being done?
I have to book my models a few weeks in advance as they are always busy.

[bagfull]

best time to get a nice looking freak, school is about to start
Girls need college money. Easy get $600 for bJ shoot

[visiono]

do you simply post ads in the local classified? can you post a sample?

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by JayAllan

Yes Exactly. The girls I shoot are generally at least $1200 before agent fees. But they are excellent girls. New girls will get $800-$1000.

The shoot rates listed in this thread are high high high end of the spectrum, as usual. People in the business want to act like the barriers to entry are prohibitively expensive.

You rock, Jay, and you know how much I like you. But I'd bet money I couldn't afford to lose that there's no way in Hell your regular model fee is $1,200+ with how beautiful you make girls look.

[billywatson]

Originally Posted by NALEM

Billy are you including the agency fee in that?

Add $100, unless you're at LADirect...then it's $110.

[JayAllan]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

The shoot rates listed in this thread are high high high end of the spectrum, as usual. People in the business want to act like the barriers to entry are prohibitively expensive.

You rock, Jay, and you know how much I like you. But I'd bet money I couldn't afford to lose that there's no way in Hell your regular model fee is $1,200+ with how beautiful you make girls look.

Hi Amelia There are lots of different layers to this onion. Lots of markets and different types of shoots. I am only speaking from my experience shooting LA girls.

It is important to note, I suppose, that I personally shoot the more well know girls and really the girls that are in high demand. That is just my market. Certainly other girls are going to be cheaper if they are booked directly. Or if they are unknown. I can't do that. When I shoot I have a location contract, an expensive makeup artist, and a full crew. I have to KNOW the model will be there and if she isn't then I have the agency to be held accountable. So I can't remember the last time I paid under $900 for a model for BG. Plus agent fees. The average I have spent on talent this week (4 girls) is $1100 each. This is for BG only and is in line with what my competitors all pay. Now many of these same girls shoot with me for free as well, but that is for my Fine Art stuff I should note I was not able to get the main girl I wanted for my next scene. She is a Spiegler Girl and is $1300 a scene. She is booked up until August 14th so I had to get another girl.

[Paully]

They don't make that much ^^^usually. Depends on the model and what is expected. Some do bj for 200. Some 600 for straight bg. Some a grand. Throw in some anal and it's 1300.

Juicey D. Links is 47.50 and a pack of menthols for atm. Just depends. Sometimes you can work out a multi scene deal or content trade too.

[bxy]

Go to Cleveland, average hooker, fake tits, knockout, or fugly, BJ is $20 with or without camera.

[dave90210]

I cant imagine anyone paying around or over $500 to $600 for a scene unless you're an established multi million dollar site like Bang Bros, etc. You're better off buying content in bulk and then periodically shooting your own shit. Models have unrealistic expectation of how much they should get paid.

[Jim_Gunn]

You didn't say how old this potential model is. If she is young, those breast implants will cause her to lose 75% of the potential work she could theoretically do without them.

[John-ACWM]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

yarrr.. however, next time, 'google: b/g porn'.. or, any niche.

whatever you do.. don't google 'prolapse blowjob'

im telling you.. don't do it..

[aka123]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

You didn't say how old this potential model is. If she is young, those breast implants will cause her to lose 75% of the potential work she could theoretically do without them.

Why? Are those in the way is she does for example accounting?