Any Idea Why Dedicated IPs Are Hard To Get?

[RummyBoy]

My provider isnt giving them out..... its impossible to get more IPs unless I need a SSL or something else.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON, MAN!?

[Barefootsies]

That 100% depends on your ISP, their IPv4 inventory, and ability to get more. A lot of those who can't get more ip space, are being very stingy. I can assure you there are plenty who give out ip's like candy. In short, switch hosts.

[MorePassion4U]

It is easy with most providers to get up to 10 IP's above this number you have to have a good reason to have more IP addresses. Some hosts will ask you to fill out a justification form. If you can justify any number of IP addresses then most will provide them to you.

[Klen]

i think better question is,why they waiting for implementing ip6 protocol 100%.
I have tons of IP6 addresses but they are sort of useless as probably most of users cant load site then.Tried with one my domain to add AAA dns entry (which is name for ip4 A entry)and i couldn't load site then.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

i think better question is,why they waiting for implementing ip6 protocol 100%.

Because a lot of ISP's and major networks are propped up by IP sales. While this is not the single handed reason for it, it is one of many reasons. Last I recall, part of the problem with IPv6 is simply getting some of these other 3rd world type countries to make the switch over. You have to get the whole web more a less willing to do it in tandem, otherwise you risk problems, and there has been some resistance because of costs or other crap.

Anyway, there is enough available IPv4 space out there in the open market to last another 10 years easily, so there should not be any rush to make the transition. Sure, there are some ISP's who are having a hard time getting more IP's from the RIR's or their upstreams, but that ultimately comes down to their record keeping, which is something they wholeheartedly control themselves.

[baddog]

They are out there for sure; we just have to be careful who we give them to.

[milambur]

I got about 300 IPv4 addresses and 18 446 744 073 709 551 616 IPv6 addresses, and no I'm not kidding. I hope the decide to make the final switch to IPv6 soon, so much easier when IP-addresses isn't an issue.

[CAHEK]

Its usually cost 1$ per I.p. Most they can give is 50 max.

[ErectMedia]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I can assure you there are plenty who give out ip's like candy.

+1

I've got every single site on a dedicated ip and a small stack I haven't even gotten around to using yet. No questions were asked and only 1 site uses an SSL which is one of my mainstream sites. Site doesn't process transactions just using an SSL to instill confidence as transactions can be anywhere from 1-100k+ but process outside of site through Escrow.com. They charge me $1/each month. One of the larger hosting companies that owns their own data centers so maybe their supply isn't as limited as smaller hosts.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by CAHEK

Its usually cost 1$ per I.p. Most they can give is 50 max.

Not even remotely true.

You can get anything from a /24 - /16 fairly easily on the open market from pretty much any RIR if you have the money. What each individual ISP can/willing to do with vary on their inventory or allocations assigned, and term commitment. Additionally, market value is $2.00/ip+ depending on the company and where you get them from. Some SEO hosting companies charge $4/ip+ and easily get it.

[Kelli58]

The answer to your question is, because there are only so many of them left and big companies like Microsoft are buying them up in massive droves so that leaves even less for the rest of us.

To get one you often have to fill out an IP justification form, explaining why you need your own IP for a website and even then, it's not a guarantee. SEO apparently isn't a justifiable reason.

One web hosting company in particular (in our industry) will even make you go as far as getting SSL certificate to get one. -rolls eyes- Don't even get me started on my rant on that one.

Anyway, thy are introducing a new IP system (our current is IPv4). The new one is IPv6 and that will make a ton of the new IPs available. IPv6 stands for Internet Protocol version 6.

In May of 2014 about 3% of people are using them (according to Google). I'm not sure when it will be available on a massive scale but the various articles say IPv4 is out, all new routers sold will be based in IPv6 technology so it's only a matter of time.

[sandman!]

there are plenty of companies that have ips you just have find a new host.

[onezero]

For those who do need IPv4, One Zero Hosting has availability. Email [email protected] for more info. And I 2nd Barefootsies' post regarding market rate. That's about right. Although for larger quantities, some adjustments can be made toward the lower end.

[MrGusMuller]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion

[Horny Guy]

I pay 0.25 a month for ips as many as I want or need ....move hosts that's all I can say.
fuck paying 2.00 or even 1.00 your getting ripped off

[anexsia]

"Google handles virtually hosted domains and their links just the same as domains on unique IP addresses. If your ISP does virtual hosting correctly, you?ll never see a difference between the two cases. We do see a small percentage of ISPs every month that misconfigure their virtual hosting, which might account for this persistent misperception?thanks for giving me the chance to dispel a myth!"

- Craig Silverstein, Google?s old Director of Technology

[AmeliaG]

You should use dedicated IPs just for privacy, if nothing else.

[AmeliaG]

And, yes, I agree that you should change hosts if they can't give you IPs. A history running out of IPs is a red flag that they may be about to go under.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by onezero

I 2nd Barefootsies' post regarding market rate. That's about right.

Originally Posted by onezero

Although for larger quantities, some adjustments can be made toward the lower end.

Agreed. Normally when you get into a /19 and higher, the price will start to slide cheaper. That price will vary by source, but you can often times get them for around a $1.00 or less. There are a number of factors that go into the pricing of the space however (blacklisted or clean, term commitment, etc.). Either way, you have the ball park numbers for market value, and confirmation there are more than enough ip's out there. Simply find another host.

[Seth Manson]

Be careful, some hosts will sell you IPs that are blacklisted. I wont say who... but ask Barefootsies who the worst host he has ever dealt with is.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by baddog

They are out there for sure; we just have to be careful who we give them to.

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

That 100% depends on your ISP, their IPv4 inventory, and ability to get more. A lot of those who can't get more ip space, are being very stingy. I can assure you there are plenty who give out ip's like candy. In short, switch hosts.

I got hundreds of uniques from different hosts, how much are you willing to pay for them?
(I knew shit was gonna hit the fan eventually so I reserved them back in 2000)

[Klen]

I have no problem with it,found and easy and cheap way to get them as much i need them.Tho the thing is,i dont need them anymore lol