Always the dark sheep of the family, the lesser known and nearly wiped from history after converting to Judaism, Ami Skywalker returns from Gaza.

I would want to destroy them.

BUT ... I wouldn't do it by also killing over 1000 innocent people ... especially when Hamas' rockets are not effective.

I would find another way.

How can you destroy terrorists when they are hiding behind civilians?

I think IDF does it's best to avoid civilian casualties and many armies in the world can learn from this conflict.

Hamas rockets are not so effective as they want it to due our anti-missiles defense system "Iron dome", its destroys 90% of the rockets they fire at us.

However 10's of Israelis died from those rockets over the years, many injured, and these rockets defense systems cost hundreds of million dollars and billions in damages cause half of the country getting paralyzed.

IF you would find another way, I guess you would win a Nobel prize...

We and our alias can't find it for years. Diplomacy course just won't work with terrorists.

They are only destroying tunnels now. NOT Hamas.

What a load of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No kidding. Financed by the US too.

All those millions and billions you talk about are financed by the US in case you missed my point above.

Please! So the only way to get rid of the tunnel system is to bomb the shit out of the place?

Mossad is 'supposed' to be one of the more effective spy agencies in the world. Could they not have planted any bombs in the tunnels themselves? They do infiltration missions all the time.

Or ... how about the ground troops go in themselves to the tunnels and do the damage instead? Oh yeah, that may cost a few more troops. Better to let hundreds of children die than to risk any of your own soldiers.

I'm sure I've won the Nobel prize by now, but those solutions were off the top of my head.

Of course diplomacy won't work with terrorists but it doesn't mean you kill over 1800 people.

http://img.rasset.ie/0009518e-942.jpg

A Palestinian protester slings rocks at Israeli security forces in the village, which is near the northern West Bank city of Nablus.

http://img.rasset.ie/00095150-942.jpg

A boy stands alone in the rubble of his neighbourhood in Gaza City.

so according to this cocksucker logic, if the people of the USA do not oppose the #1 terrorist organisation in the world, the US army, that kills 100x more civilians than any other terrorist organization, the people of the USA are fair game and deserve to be beombed and killed?

ooooh right it does not work when 'mericans are concerned...

these rules apply only when 'mericans and israelis need another country to change their politics so that it suits 'merican foreign policy :1orglaugh but if 'mericans where held to the same standard they would cry bloody murder :1orglaugh

oh and all these "terrorists" hate the USA and Israel for NO reason :1orglaugh:1orglaugh I mean it cant be that the good ole USA and their aparheid buddies Israel did something? NOOOOOOOOOOOO :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the USA is so brainwashed its amusing to watch....

900 Hamas terrorist were killed in past 28 days in Gaza


Load of crap is in your head :)

It's financed for a reason.

once again, you are couch philosopher and have no idea what you are talking about, most of small business here are about to close up, they are all loosing money and no one financing it


Yes, before you bomb the tunnels, you have to find them.

Mossad is indeed very effective, through it's not related here at all :1orglaugh


That's what Israel did, they sent the ground troops to destroy the tunnels.

Yes, it's seems like you are the winner of the prize, indeed! :)


We didn't kill 1800 people, we killed about 900 terrorist and 900 civilians, shit happens

If we would want to target civilians, it's would be 1'800'000 :disgust

Very intelligent response.



Again, very intelligent response.



What do you mean 'once again'?

I have several friends, family members and neighbors who are Jewish and they travel back and forth to Israel often and none of them say what you are saying. You are only allowed to spew out what the Israeli givernment's propaganda machine wants you to. You are not even allowed to protest this campaign if you wanted to. I probably know more than you do and have a less biased opinion.




What the hell does that mean? Of course they know where the tunnels are or they wouldn't bomb them?



Why that would be the case and why you laugh is a mystery. I feel like I am talking to someone who has no idea how to answer questions.




And ... bomb the shit out of them from the air which resulted in city blocks being destroyed and people dying.



????




Shit happens is your attitude to admitting that 900 innocent people are dead? If 900 innocent Jews were killed by a Hamas rocket you wouldn't say 'shit happens'.

Scary how easily you brush off death of innocent people.

So you are admitting you can crush Gaza. Good. Since you are so powerful there is no need to be as aggressive as you are.

I would say that not everyone is but enough to do what the government would like.

And to be fair many people around the world are just as brainwashed too.

The argument you presented above is valid.

Just imagine if this was a Jewish boy in Tel Aviv

Those who support Israel would be so enraged.

For some reason, they are not when 'other' people are hurt.

Give all people of Israel and Palestine equal rights.

Let all Palestinians return to their land and compensate any for loss of land

Call the country Israel / Palestine

Ban religion from all schools, Palestinians and Jews to go to the same schools.

Either open immigration or closed to all, but priority to be to those without homes and land over new immigration from people born abroad.

Form a government of national unity equal members from both communities.

End all blockades

Abolish nuclear weapons and make the middle east nuclear free.

Slash military spending and increase education and health

also: let non-israelis get house building permits...getting a house building permit in israel whislt being a non-israeli is almost impossible...it is a basic human right...

that's was your initial response, or you already forgot it?


We are not getting it for free, there is a reason why USA finances it


I have several friends, family members and neighbors who are Jewish and they travel back and forth to Israel often and none of them say what you are saying. You are only allowed to spew out what the Israeli givernment's propaganda machine wants you to. You are not even allowed to protest this campaign if you wanted to. I probably know more than you do and have a less biased opinion.

Yes, teach me more about the country I'm living in past 20 years...

There were protests against this operation in Tel Aviv...

stop talking about things you have no idea about them




Many tunnels are discovered when troops entered the Gaza







I feel like talking to someone who don't have an idea what they are talking about ?

Mossad have nothing to do in this operation, first learn what is Mossad , that's why I'm laugh at you.

rightfully so


!!!!!




that's what you did all the time, since Israel was bombed by hamas past 15 years

shit happens, its a war



Once again if we would be just aggressive we would wipe whole Gaza in 2 weeks

Each hamas tunnel costs at least 3 mil usd

Hamas robbing palestians and we just give them more money

Do you know that we provide electricity water and many other supplies to Gaza ?

Amazing theory

This have nothing to do with reality.

And now typhoid and other diseases.

Good of you to admit Israel is not realistic.

Blame jews for everything :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Sue us ;)

Have a Doughnut :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Have_Doughnut

Hammas is the ruling party....Democratically ELECTED by a LARGE majority of the population. I feel terrible for anyone who is killed or hurt that has nothing to do with it, but its not as though some terrorist group popped in and is holed up in the basement, lol. They elected this group to represent them.

Do you think they elected Hamas KNOWING Hamas would use them as human shields?

I see that argument everywhere by Israel supporters and it doesn't hold water.

In Canada the conservative government has a majority. They were democratically ELECTED.

They only had 39% of the vote.

That means 61% of the country didn't want them in office. Many of their supporters don't agree with everything they do either.

Im not saying all is well on the western front, but are you implying that the residents of Gaza, prior to the election, thought Hammas sold puppy dogs and ice-cream?

The residents HATE (not ALL, but most) the state of Israel, they elected a group that shares that hatred.

Nope. But I don't believe they wanted war either.

Of course they hate Israel. If my neighborhood was bombed and I lost family members due to their bombing I'd hate them too.

Nobody WANTS war, lol, but to elect and support Hammmas and not think that some aggressive behavior might take place is just a joke. They elected a government known for strapping C4 to themselves and blowing up cafes and busses. Im not saying Helicopter airstrikes are good either, but that have historically been a REACTIVE response, not a first strike action.

what came first, the chicken or the egg. Its sad, but the truth is this....If they both stopped the fight right now, what do you think would happen first, an unprovoked Israeli air strike against Palestinian civilians or a Hammas suicide attack on Israli civilians.

This should clear the air http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/realstory.html

The real problem is that the "palestinians" were forced off their land, true it was never a country but they "occupied" it for centuries before the UN forcefully created the state of Israel.

To all the morons who think Islam or religion in general is the problem, it might interest you to know that Jews, Muslims and Christians all lived in peace at one time in the Holy Land.

A bit about that here:

http://newsjunkiepost.com/2014/08/01...-in-palestine/

Hamas are evil no doubt about that but how can all of those kids deaths be considered collateral damage.

Israel have a more than capable miltary army which has been funded with ridiculous amounts of money from foreign interest, they don't need to send missles everywhere they could go in stealth and take the terrorists out and they know it.

We are in 2014, with all the technology we possess... I mean c'mon really?

That's almost admitting that Israel is 'bad'.

It's saying that because you voted for terrorists you 'deserve' to all be bombed and killed.

That Israel is a big, bad, evil entity that will punish anyone who attacks - even if the damage they do in that attack is negligible - and will even kill your children.

I KNOW Hamas is evil. They are bad guys. But they are a bunch of terrorists! Nobody likes them.

Israel is a STATE and I expect more from them. Especially with the firepower they have.

That pretty much sums it up. It's pretty clear from these posts that 'Vlad' is one of those uncorrigible assholes that no matter how much fact, documentation and history is presented, he will invariably always side with his own interest REGARDLESS of right or wrong, meanwhile shouting 'anti-semite' against anyone that has a different view. I stopped arguing with the moron after reading of his several childish responses.

couch philosopher :)

Did you ever hold gun in you hands?

You have been watching too many holywood movies...

where all the fact and docs?

http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFile...3/80462491.jpg

gfy clown :)

Here you go you bigoted fascist asshole -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yq9h88X5Xg


That's the UN secretary general and I quote 'nothing is more shameful than bombing sleeping children'. You are a coward and a disgrace for supporting that.

Yes actually but that's not the point, the point is the technology we possess today could be used to avoid these unnecessary air strikes that kill hundreds of innocents.

Wake up seriously...

http://stopwar.org.uk/images/news/ga...estine_460.jpg
Holding signs emblazoned with slogans like ?Boycott Israeli Apartheid? and ?New York Jews Say: Not in Our Name,? hundreds of protesters marched through lower Manhattan on Thursday demanding an end to American support for Israel?s operation in Gaza

What more do you need to hear...

yeah that's a solid proof... :1orglaugh

clown :)

Too bad Israeli security cabinet with all the military strategists didn't consulted with you.

You would explain them about tactics and technology.

Sounds legit.

Palestinians Terrorists use UN Ambulance

So you're now saying the UN Secretary General is a clown? You're just such a retard it's pointless to have any discussion.

Anyone know who this fuckface Vlad is? I read somewhere he has an impeccable reputation as a scammer, now why wouldn't that surprise me.

Idiot, I say that's the opinion of UN Secretary General , no more than that.

You are asking like you mean to do something.

clown :1orglaugh

and btw, I was here since 2002 , so who the fuck you are?

Got it... just the silly opinion of that nobody UN Secretary General...


Nothing to do but help perpetuate the truth and expose the fascist colonialization of 'your' country. As for you personally, it was personal curiousity that an immoral shitbag like you would be a dishonest scammer.

Great! Now shut the fuck up and climb back to your shithole, thanks!

:winkwink:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08...ey-to-the-kkk/


"I was in Israel last year with Mary. Her sister works for UNWRA in Jerusalem. Showing us round were a Palestinian – Shadi, who is her sister’s husband and a professional guide – and Oren Jacobovitch, an Israeli Jew, an ex-major from the IDF who left the service under a cloud for refusing to beat up Palestinians. Between the two of them we got to see some harrowing things – Palestinian houses hemmed in by wire mesh and boards to prevent settlers throwing shit and piss and used sanitary towels at the inhabitants; Palestinian kids on their way to school being beaten by Israeli kids with baseball bats to parental applause and laughter; a whole village evicted and living in caves while three settler families moved onto their land; an Israeli settlement on top of a hill diverting its sewage directly down onto Palestinian farmland below; The Wall; the checkpoints… and all the endless daily humiliations. I kept thinking, “Do Americans really condone this? Do they really think this is OK? Or do they just not know about it?”.

As for the Peace Process: Israel wants the Process but not the Peace. While ‘the process’ is going on the settlers continue grabbing land and building their settlements… and then when the Palestinians finally erupt with their pathetic fireworks they get hammered and shredded with state-of-the-art missiles and depleted uranium shells because Israel ‘has a right to defend itself’ ( whereas Palestine clearly doesn’t)."