The Palestinian people have been brainwashed by Hamas and once they (Hamas) took hold of government, they did what many other governments who brainwash the general public did ... became corrupt and do whatever they want.

The American people are more educated than Palestinians by far and look how easy the Dems/Repubs are brainwashing them?

Plain and simple. Yes Hamas are the bad guys.

Yes Israel needs to combat them. But need to find a better way.

If there was a way, Israel would have done it.

there is a reason why there are always civilian casualties all the wars that were ever fought.

How about not bombing Israel first? That way you don't need to worry about when they will stop retaliating.


Such as ??.. ? Air strikes, Tanks, Ground troops?

I'm not pro-Israel, just an outside observer trying to use common sense. Leave Israel alone, don't set off or launch bombs, enjoy the benefits of living peacefully with your affluent neighbor.


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i would completely agree when Israel in return stops building new settlements on Palestine land.

if they don't stop that, there will never be any agreement - especially since those settlers usually turn out to be the most hardcore conservative folks that spark new conflicts out of principle

The Gaza fighting seems to have little to do with the West Bank - It often seems the Palestinians in the West Bank would prefer it if Gaza STFU...

Wasn't that land lost when Israel was responding to PLO bombings?

Finally someone that speaks to the point, one of the main causes for this conflict... unlike the rest of the mindless sheep just repeating what the media tells them 'oh oh but hamas fired rockets into Israel then hid in civilian terrority', make me sick.

There is no such thing as "Palestine land" they have never owned/conquered/given any land, there are individuals that own land, but not as an "Palestinian entity"

if anything it's Jordanian Land (that Israel conquered in 1967), but the Jordanians don't want it.

It was in the last few Hundred years it was Turkish, then British, then Jordanian and after that Israeli but never "Palestinian"


13 Questions that PROVES that Palestine is not a country. Palestine is just a concept that failed.
How did I come to this conclusion?
I could only answer questions 9 and 10 of this questionnaire...

Yashiko Sagamori, A Japanese professor of political science at the University of Tokyo,
Passed a questionnaire to a group of Palestinian attorneys:

If Palestine is a country, I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions on it:
1. When was it founded and by whom?
2. What were its borders?
3. What was its capital?
4. What were its major cities?
5. What was its underlying economy made of?
6. What form did its government have?
7. Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?
8. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at one time or another, leaves no room for interpretation?
9. What was the language of the State of Palestine?
10. What was the most common religion in the State of Palestine?
11. What was the name of its currency? Choose any date - what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian currency against the U.S. dollar, German euro, British pound, Japanese yen or Chinese yuan?
12. Since there is no such country today, what caused its destruction and when did it happen?
You mourn the "slow decline" of the “former proud” country." When exactly was this "state" proud and what was it proud about?
13. Are the people you mistakenly call "Palestinians" something other than generic Arabs gathered from everywhere or thrown out of the Arab world?
Do they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination?
Why haven’t thay ever tried to gain independence until the Arabs suffered a crushing defeat in the ‘Six Day’ War?

The Arab countries have never abandoned their dream to destroy Israel. To this day, they cherish this dream in their hearts. They have repeatedly failed to achieve their devious goal by military means and decided to fight Israel - by proxy.
For this purpose, they have created a terrorist organization, cynically called it "The Palestinian people" and placed it in Gaza, Judea and Samaria.
How else can you explain the refusal by Jordan and Egypt to take back the "West Bank" and Gaza in a dignified manner and unconditionally?
The fact is, that the Arabs populating Gaza, Judea, and Samaria have much less claim for nationality than that Indian tribe which successfully appeared in Connecticut with plans to open a tax free casino; At least that tribe had a constructive goal that pushed him.
The “Palestinians” supposedly have only one motivation: to destroy Israel, and in my book, it’s not enough to be treated as a ”nation"or anything other than what they really are: a terrorist organization that will one day be dismantled".

A Japanese professor of political science, an objective, interest-free genius.
Now let's go back to my first three lines...

http://documentaryaddict.com/The+Iron+Wall-606-doc.html


I would very much like to hear comments from the pro-Israel bunch here on this, no insults no bullshit, just refute the points in that documentary.

I'm confused, in 1967, did Israel conquered the land from Palestinians? or was it the Jordanians?

I don't really believe that.

That is your right.

I can answer in the same vein and we can go round and round and round forever.

"How about Israel stop the bombing?"

The Israelis don't like any of the representatives of the Palestinian people.

The did everything to destroy the secular PLO including giving the fundamentalists a pass.

They talk to Hamas make truces with them, use them to administer the area.

But if Israel wanted peace it could stop building Jewish only settlements on land which is not theirs.

What country builds houses only for one pseudo racial group (as to be Jewish is cultural / religious not race ) for people born abroad and not for people born there. (who quite likely are related to the original Jewish people of 2000 years ago?

Supported by the USA.

Security, sort of like why I live in a gated community.

Silly of me thinking that it is the Muslims who actually hates everyone not being a Muslim. And that religion has nothing to do with it right?

Gaza civilian deaths may amount to war crimes, UN human rights chief says. Since Israel's attack started on July 8, the operation has left 1,065 Palestinians dead. More than 4,500 people have been injured.


Facts You Need to Know About Israel and Palestine

http://www.juancole.com/images-ext/2...nationhood.jpg

... and give them your house and land : no more problem : submit !

It this all you can do : post and repost the same flawed sophic info ?

"◾For example, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and many other human rights organizations reported that in Israel?s 2009 Gaza Massacre, Israel killed about 450 children, and it was Israel, they documented, that broke the ceasefire. (In that massacre, Israel killed overall from 1,400 to 7,000 Palestinians, almost all civilians, while 13 Israelis were killed, several from friendly fire.)"

sources -

http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/MDE15/015/2009

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2009/03/25/rain-fire


These are atrocious war crimes as defined by 2 neutral, non-partisan bodies. Anyone who defends this action should be ashamed to regard themselves as a human being. The world is waking up now.

Those pics are amazing piece of art... Well done... But, in the same time, you can see how much sorrow and pain lies there... One of the worst places in the world to live in... :(

http://img.rasset.ie/00094a3b-942.jpg

Palestinian youths list the names of the children who were killed in the ongoing conflict in Gaza.

They voted for them twice you demented liberal turd!

Have you seen that 2001 video of Neytanyahu where he boasts about how he broke the Oslo accords, how America does anything he tells them to do and his plans to encroach on more Palestinian land? Look it up. it's easy to find.

Neighbor isn't quite the correct term. if you take someones land and make him live in a cage at the end of your garden he's gonna throw rocks at your windows. If you then use a bazooka can you really morally say he should learn to live peacefully in his cage?

This is not a great satan Saudi Arabian type situation, this is 1.8 million people living in a 25 miles long 10 miles wide piece of land. One of the most populated areas on earth with no access to water, agricultural land, etc.

A vote doesn't mean they wanted Hamas to fire rockets.

Do Americans agree with every single thing the President they voted for does?

I don't see how the person you responded to is demented, a liberal or a turd, or how that has anything to do with the thread.

If the Palestinian people want to win this war they need to make better Youtube videos.:2 cents:

Israel running out of land?

I don't care about gaza or so called "palestine", i care about one thing: elimination of islam. From documentaries which takes the side of gaza people(funny thing you know), i easily reached the conclusion by sawing the same radical islamic behavior presently in totalitarian arab countries, which should be eliminated. Islam and sharia must be eliminated at all cost from every country, including israel.

Egypt, Saudi Arabia and other backward states, backed by the USA support Israel.

Religion is not the cause of these fights but just an expression.

All religion is an illusion but to attack a whole group for their religion is fascism.

Gaza bombing, before and after.

I was just watching the news and they had a live report and buildings were getting hit all around - right in the middle of the city. Pretty intense.

...so long as there were no people in there ...probably cheaper than hiring demolition crews to bring those buildings down

american jewish rabbi Henry Siegman on Gaza attacks. Admits Rabin had issued orders for innocent Palestinians to be lined up and shot

CNN reports that the United States has agreed to an Israeli request for several types of ammunition as the ground battle in Gaza is entering its third week. Those will come from a stockpile the United States keeps in Israel, which is worth more than $1 billion, officials said.

So,all wars are bankers' wars.

Children paying a terrible price in Gaza.

http://znn.india.com/Img/2014/7/31/gazanowar540.jpg

i love it when they catch speed

What hell on earth Israel has created. Israel has never taken it’s obligations as the Occupying power seriously– it has trashed all International Laws since the beginning. It demonizes the UN, unless it suits them. Now the UN can’t manage to do their important work, and what and whom Israeli weapons hasn’t already destroyed or killed, disease and despair will.

No electricity, no potable water, no infrastructure, severely short medical supplies and exhausted staff, the list goes on and on. Israel is targeting everyone– including relief workers, ambulances, and the very hospitals that the grievously wounded are brought to.

That mosh pit looked weak......but the beat is catchy

agreed 100%

if you play with fire, you get burned

So Palestinian children and women and men are playing with fire?

How so?

I mean, I know the terrorists Hamas are playing with fire. But how are the people who are dying playing with fire?

Show me a war where there weren't any dead civilians.

That doesn't answer the question.

what about all the Israeli citizens that died from thousands of rockets hamas fires daily for many years?!

yeah, it's sad to see innocent people die, but you should blame hamas for this, not Israel

pigshit :321GFY

[QUOTE=Emma;20172814]These are children, not terrorists.

so why you didn't post a photos of all the Israeli kids killed from hamas rockets that they keep firing on innocent civilians for many years?

why you didn't post a photos of all the terror attacks made by hamas, including blowing up a buses, cafes, shops and many other public places?

take a look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...uicide_attacks

and check this http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...m/victims.html

once in a few years they getting they ass kicked so it's would set them back a little... they should be thankful we didn't wiped out a whole sector...yet!

How you notice how the Israeli spokesmen speak great English?

Check out where they were born. They are taking the land of the people who lived there for generations.

That is the source of the violence.

How many Israeli's died from the rockets? Not many !!

And for the 1 millionth time Hamas is 'evil' ... but I can still criticize Israel for doing something wrong.

not many?

you count, if you can.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...m/victims.html

sure you can criticize anyone! Through we are still expecting a constructive criticism

Until we eradicate the disease known as Islam, the world will always have terrorism.

Until we eradicate the disease known as stupidity, the world will always have terrorism.