Racism and monkeys

[pornmasta]

Aftermath of this story:

Christiane Taubira, French Justice Minister, Compared To Monkey By Far Right Politician Anne Leclere

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4122380.html

9-months prison sentence without parole
yes !

https://fr.news.yahoo.com/taubira-co...194327853.html

[mineistaken]

Can not be true. Although justice minister surely has juice in sentencing field.

[_Richard_]

that's just perfect

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Can not be true.

Welcome in france.
Ok this was very stupid for a politician, however this sentence is totally crazy and deserves probably more the cause it wants to serve

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

this sentence is totally crazy

No doubt about that. Even many real crimes do not get that much, if any.
Triumphant day for guilters and liberals though

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

Welcome in france.
Ok this was very stupid for a politician, however this sentence is totally crazy and deserves probably more the cause it wants to serve

the person used hate speech for political purposes... what would have been a better message in this case?

slap on the wrist? stern warning? ...nothing?

[AntonMG]

I agree that it deserved a sentence, maybe 9-months is indeed a bit harsh.
Having myself been in contact with close friends from french Guyana, I only regret that this incident did not also show off all the racist past of Taubira herself.
Walwari (her political party) is probably the closest thing there is to the Front National.

Don't get me wrong: racism must be punished.
I just wish the media had used this to showcase other sorts of racism.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by AntonMG

I only regret that this incident did not also show off all the racist past of Taubira herself.

Only white people are racist.

[mchol]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Only white people are racist.

Racism is every where (bro)

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by AntonMG

I agree that it deserved a sentence, maybe 9-months is indeed a bit harsh.
Having myself been in contact with close friends from french Guyana, I only regret that this incident did not also show off all the racist past of Taubira herself.
Walwari (her political party) is probably the closest thing there is to the Front National.

Don't get me wrong: racism must be punished.
I just wish the media had used this to showcase other sorts of racism.

sorry, what racist past are you referring to? most of the current bs almost entirely blocks any racist mention on this ladies part, other than the 02 reference of 'wringing necks'

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

No doubt about that. Even many real crimes do not get that much, if any.
Triumphant day for guilters and liberals though

Down with guilters and liberals.


White power


.

[dyna mo]

What was the crime she was convicted of?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by mchol

Racism is every where (bro)

I was being sarcastic, bro. Double standards for whitey, others pretty much good to go and be racist without nobody noticing.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Down with guilters and liberals.


White power


.

Which one are you?
Oh, I forgot, you are the one who can say "I voted for Obama because he is black" and get away with it without nobody even blinking.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I was being sarcastic, bro. Double standards for whitey, others pretty much good to go and be racist without nobody noticing.

so, you should be able to post one example here, right?

[aka123]

Quite much for referring to wrong monkey specie, but that happens when you skip biology class. Everyone knows that we are Homos.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

so, you should be able to post one example here, right?

I just posted above.
Are you that stupid that you are seriosly questioning if there are double standards when SAME thing is done by whites and blacks?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I just posted above.
Are you that stupid that you are seriosly questioning if there are double standards when SAME thing is done by whites and blacks?

sorry, we're talking about a specific event. you are calling me stupid, which makes me think you believe you are smart enough to know i want a similar situation, but in reverse.

so, a minority needs to do something that equates with running a political ad calling an opponent a rather extreme racial name.

let me know if you need me to explain this slower and clearer for you.

[_Richard_]

btw, cause you're so smart,

if a 'black person', lets say african-american, were to vote for obama because he is black, that would not be racism:

"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

if he were to NOT vote for obama because he is black, that's racism.

[L-Pink]

[dyna mo]

My dang smart phone won't translate that fr link but i did find an English link that states she was charged with inciting hatred/racism.

I can see how as a politician her words can be interpreted that way.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

didn't this comparison cause a huge uproar?

i mean, who in the world would compare someone of bushs' intelligence to a chimpanzee.

outrageous.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

sorry, we're talking about a specific event. you are calling me stupid, which makes me think you believe you are smart enough to know i want a similar situation, but in reverse.

so, a minority needs to do something that equates with running a political ad calling an opponent a rather extreme racial name.

let me know if you need me to explain this slower and clearer for you.

And maybe you also would like the victim to be justice minister of some country so that the situations would be really specifically equal?

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

didn't this comparison cause a huge uproar?

i mean, who in the world would compare someone of bushs' intelligence to a chimpanzee.

outrageous.

And see there you go. You just proved the double standard exists.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

And maybe you also would like the victim to be justice minister of some country so that the situations would be really specifically equal?

that would definitely help get to the bottom of your fantastical delusion that these things only apply to "white" people..

no, in efforts of time and giving you a long shot of a chance, lets say any elected minority member of government, attacking their opponents using outrageous racial stereotypes that a child could have thought up.

why are you even talking about this? just post the examples.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

btw, cause you're so smart,

if a 'black person', lets say african-american, were to vote for obama because he is black, that would not be racism:

"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

if he were to NOT vote for obama because he is black, that's racism.

And where did I say that saying so would be racism?
In fact I also explained what prejudice is just few days ago and laughed at fools who claim "dass rasiss" when actually it is prejudice.

Secondly. It was not the point of that quote. The point was double standards.
If blacks say so - its all good.
If whites say so - they become news and receives huge heat and name calling etc.

Liberal scum would claim otherwise or pretend not to understand, of course.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

that would definitely help get to the bottom of your fantastical delusion that these things only apply to "white" people..

no, in efforts of time and giving you a long shot of a chance, lets say any elected minority member of government, attacking their opponents using outrageous racial stereotypes that a child could have thought up.

why are you even talking about this? just post the examples.

You are too dumb if you really believe the sentence and outrage would be the same if that was black politician instead of white.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...tone-aide.html
Here is to support my claim that black people can not be racist, though.
Liberal scum like you would enjoy it

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Dvae

And see there you go. You just proved the double standard exists.

i did? by stating admirers of the chimpanzee species were horrified and outraged by such a comparison?

must have missed that spin class in white power school

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

And where did I say that saying so would be racism?
In fact I also explained what prejudice is just few days ago and laughed at fools who claim "dass rasiss" when actually it is prejudice.

Secondly. It was not the point of that quote. The point was double standards.
If blacks say so - its all good.
If whites say so - they become news and receives huge heat and name calling etc.

Liberal scum would claim otherwise or pretend not to understand, of course.

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Which one are you?
Oh, I forgot, you are the one who can say "I voted for Obama because he is black" and get away with it without nobody even blinking.

in this one.

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Secondly. It was not the point of that quote. The point was double standards.
If blacks say so - its all good.
If whites say so - they become news and receives huge heat and name calling etc.

Liberal scum would claim otherwise or pretend not to understand, of course.

double standards! my mistake.. so you believe that everyone votes for white politicians cause everyone is white.. and 'the blacks' have been upset about this, and talk about it all the time, and then complain when they get to vote a person of similar genetic background for the first time?

im sure you have one reference to this.. right?

or am i, once again, in "lynchadise.."

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

You are too dumb if you really believe the sentence and outrage would be the same if that was black politician instead of white.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...tone-aide.html
Here is to support my claim that black people can not be racist, though.
Liberal scum like you would enjoy it

so you're saying id be 'too dumb' if i thought the sentence would be the same, if there was ANY REFERENCE AT ALL to a situation we can use to compare?

well fuck me sideways, john smith, i guess we'd need at least ONE example of something similar happening to find out if i am dumb enough to think the sentence would be the same

i am liberal? scum? have we reached the boundaries of you're being able to think critically that you now resort to rather hilarious rhetoric?

you can't even imagine what i think about you

[aka123]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

didn't this comparison cause a huge uproar?

Yes, the chimpanzee has much better sideburns.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by AntonMG

I agree that it deserved a sentence

Originally Posted by AntonMG

Don't get me wrong: racism must be punished.

wow. You are fucking insane.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by aka123

Yes, the chimpanzee has much better sideburns.

and, lets face it,



this is done by brent the chimp.. not sure if bush does a similar style, but this is pretty damn good

[aka123]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

this is done by brent the chimp.. not sure if bush does a similar style, but this is pretty damn good

That will sell well at the next auction. I hope that the chimpanzee has a good lawyer to establish his or her proprietary rights. It is better to monkey around being rich than poor.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by aka123

That will sell well at the next auction. I hope that the chimpanzee has a good lawyer to establish his or her proprietary rights. It is better to monkey around being rich than poor.

wow, not to derail this finely educational thread, but he won this competition:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...art-prize.html

$10k goes to his Chimp Haven!

[aka123]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

wow, not to derail this finely educational thread, but he won this competition:

$10k goes to his Chimp Haven!

Damm.. it's always some monkey that wins, never me.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by aka123

Damm.. it's always some monkey that wins, never me.

well, in this case, i believe because you had to be a chimp to begin with

but don't let mere details get you down! doesn't let anyone else here

[Phoenix]

it is funny...in asia i am called a monkey because of my arm and chest hair.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Only white people are racist.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

the person used hate speech for political purposes... what would have been a better message in this case?

slap on the wrist? stern warning? ...nothing?

The problem is that a lot of people become tired with empty racism accusation.
Ok, here this is clearly racism (in fact more her comment than the picture) but like some else stated:

Even many real crimes do not get that much, if any.
Triumphant day for guilters and liberals though

A lot of people feel the same thing, here.
When, i wrote that it deserves probably more the cause that it wants to serve, it is just that white french people feel more and more oppressed by colored "minorities". You will see the effect of this kind of thing at the next election.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...a n_elections