pussycash buys sex.xxx for 3 million?!

[BlackCrayon]

Apparently...

also 40 other domains thrown in the mix.

[PornDude]

Overpriced.

[Biggy]

How is it legal for someone to run a domain extension, and then just sell off what they consider to be the mostly-prized domains for the highest price?

Without fully understanding the entire laws and structure, that seems pretty unfair. Can you imagine the outcry if the same were true for .com? Pretty sure this never happened with .com, .net, or .org. Almost sounds monopolistic and the last case that was brought by this was settled out of court (think it was brought by Mindgeek/Manwin)?

Would be interesting to hear from an expert or see a lawyer write an article up in XBiz about how all of this works between ICann and the new people behind new domain extensions, if other non-adult domain extensions are doing this, etc.

[Niktamer]

seem those domains were managed / resold by http://www.barroninnovations.com/

[romeo22]

madness A

[seeric]

I think that this is 100% made up nonsense for press. The new gTLDs are not getting those kinds of numbers in any other gTLD. It's not happening in .XXX either. It would be my personal opinion that this is press positioning and propaganda. No way I am believing this.

[seeric]

@Biggy

All of the new registries are doing this with their premium stock. Some of them even let you register at the 9.95 and then tell you later its a premium domain for XX,XXX or whatever the high dollar amount.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Biggy

How is it legal for someone to run a domain extension, and then just sell off what they consider to be the mostly-prized domains for the highest price?

Without fully understanding the entire laws and structure, that seems pretty unfair. Can you imagine the outcry if the same were true for .com? Pretty sure this never happened with .com, .net, or .org. Almost sounds monopolistic and the last case that was brought by this was settled out of court (think it was brought by Mindgeek/Manwin)?

Would be interesting to hear from an expert or see a lawyer write an article up in XBiz about how all of this works between ICann and the new people behind new domain extensions, if other non-adult domain extensions are doing this, etc.

i agree but its happening among all the 100's of new tlds that are currently being released. tens of thousands of domains per tld are being held back as 'premium' not only that but they are charging in some cases $5000 a year for a renewal. its a shake down. the registries are now domainers.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Niktamer

seem those domains were managed / resold by http://www.barroninnovations.com/

barron innovations is related to pussycash in some way. they are the buyers.

[BettingHandle]

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

barron innovations is related to pussycash in some way. they are the buyers.

Barron owns PussyCash, IMLive and WebCamWiz.

Congrats to the winners on a (in total) $5 million dollar deal

I know haters gonna hate, but those haters are not as successful (or as smart) as Barron or JT et al

Originally Posted by seeric

I think that this is 100% made up nonsense for press.

You would be incorrect. Welcome to 2014 and the future beyond.

AND, I expect flagship site Sex.xxx to not only redefine the industry, but to be FAR more successful than Sex.com

[Jman]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i agree but its happening among all the 100's of new tlds that are currently being released. tens of thousands of domains per tld are being held back as 'premium' not only that but they are charging in some cases $5000 a year for a renewal. its a shake down. the registries are now domainers.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Barron owns PussyCash, IMLive and WebCamWiz.

Congrats to the winners on a (in total) $5 million dollar deal

I know haters gonna hate, but those haters are not as successful (or as smart) as Barron or JT et al



You would be incorrect. Welcome to 2014 and the future beyond.

AND, I expect flagship site Sex.xxx to not only redefine the industry, but to be FAR more successful than Sex.com

says the VP of ICM...

it also appears barron innovations has some kind of deal with ICM to promote their premium domains which makes this deal seem all the more shady.

[247mg]

The deal also includes more than 40 “premium” generic keyword domains, including Cam.xxx, Phone.xxx and Black.xxx, as well as Web.xxx, Market.xxx, Mate.xxx and Education.xxx

Its madness $3m unbelievable

[xpimp]

Originally Posted by Biggy

How is it legal for someone to run a domain extension, and then just sell off what they consider to be the mostly-prized domains for the highest price?

Without fully understanding the entire laws and structure, that seems pretty unfair. Can you imagine the outcry if the same were true for .com? Pretty sure this never happened with .com, .net, or .org. Almost sounds monopolistic and the last case that was brought by this was settled out of court (think it was brought by Mindgeek/Manwin)?

Would be interesting to hear from an expert or see a lawyer write an article up in XBiz about how all of this works between ICann and the new people behind new domain extensions, if other non-adult domain extensions are doing this, etc.

Yeah, with all the new extensions that followed, they made sure that they will not repeat the same mistake like with .com, .net and .org but, anyway, any other extension which comes, will always feed the .com

[jódete]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

says the VP of ICM...

it also appears barron innovations has some kind of deal with ICM to promote their premium domains which makes this deal seem all the more shady.

[nikki99]

now I know where my pussycash chargeback money goes

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Stephen

AND, I expect flagship site Sex.xxx to not only redefine the industry, but to be FAR more successful than Sex.com

Was SEX.COM ever successful? If so, I missed it. I've only seen one cluster fuck after another with that domain.

[czarina]

sex.com is worth that amount.
sex.xxx... not so sure

[xpimp]

Originally Posted by czarina

sex.com is worth that amount.
sex.xxx... not so sure

this seems more realistic http://domainindex.com/domains/sex.xxx

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

says the VP of ICM...

it also appears barron innovations has some kind of deal with ICM to promote their premium domains which makes this deal seem all the more shady.

Stephen is vp of icm?

Icm is banking on country regulations to mandate adult content be behind an adult tld. Government intervention will happen more and more... will be interesting to see what happens. Lets just hope icm is left holding their dicks.

[freecartoonporn]

overpriced....

[SekobA]

big money in the game

[Feng-PD]

Has to be nice to know people high-up at ICM

[brassmonkey]

they will make coin go check the rank of .xxx sites

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Barron owns PussyCash, IMLive and WebCamWiz.
Congrats to the winners on a (in total) $5 million dollar deal

Seems same people:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22A...+972.543275089

Can put custom imlive/pussycash platform over sex.xxx, phone.xxx, black.xxx, shop.xxx, mate.xxx, horny.xxx, kinky.xxx .... but maybe they'll do different things there if $5 million (a lot) invested. and they own several .com ones including imlive brand already. Ifriends simply launched on ifriends.xxx and that's it. Let's see.

[XPays]

Congrats to the winners and if you want to invest into new extensions, the interNEXT domain auction has premium .webcam .club and other new extensions listed at http://huntingmoon.com/gfy

[xpimp]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Seems same people:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22A...+972.543275089

Can put custom imlive/pussycash platform over sex.xxx, phone.xxx, black.xxx, shop.xxx, mate.xxx, horny.xxx, kinky.xxx .... but maybe they'll do different things there if $5 million (a lot) invested. and they own several .com ones including imlive brand already. Ifriends simply launched on ifriends.xxx and that's it. Let's see.

phone.xxx
-> ex. phonemates.com, so probably a cam wl
mate.xxx (dating is also possible)



black.xxx
-> a niche cam wl will pretty much work
kinky.xxx



sex.xxx -> well this is the tricky part, i think this domain deserves some special attention and a high traffic website will be suitable which can push traffic to the rest.

[Forest]

Originally Posted by DWB

Was SEX.COM ever successful? If so, I missed it. I've only seen one cluster fuck after another with that domain.

Cohen was the only one to make money with that domain aside from Gary once he got it back and sold it

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Forest

Cohen was the only one to make money with that domain aside from Gary once he got it back and sold it

its been well abused

[SomeCreep]

As of right now, Sex.xxx is not worth anything even close to $3M. However, that doesn't mean that some day, the value of Sex.xxx can't appreciate, or even skyrocket in a very short period of time. The site could be developed into a huge tube site and then the domain could be sold for more than $3M based on revenues alone, which of course is extrinsic value.

As for intrinsic value, I believe in order for .xxx domains to be valuable, they have to be accepted by the adult community. So far, they have not been accepted by adult webmasters, nor the adult community. Will that change some day? It's possible. Personally, I prefer .com's and have no intentions of ever using a .xxx. To me, they are a fad. ICANN is trying to evolve the world wide web into one where every simple noun can be registered and used as a TLD extension. That spreads the user base for any one TLD very thin, hence not much value is created. It also creates a very messy naming system that in my opinion will confuse and frustrate the hell out of surfers and users.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

As of right now, Sex.xxx is not worth anything even close to $3M. However, that doesn't mean that some day, the value of Sex.xxx can't appreciate, or even skyrocket in a very short period of time. The site could be developed into a huge tube site and then the domain could be sold for more than $3M based on revenues alone, which of course is extrinsic value.

As for intrinsic value, I believe in order for .xxx domains to be valuable, they have to be accepted by the adult community. So far, they have not been accepted by adult webmasters, nor the adult community. Will that change some day? It's possible. Personally, I prefer .com's and have no intentions of ever using a .xxx. To me, they are a fad. ICANN is trying to evolve the world wide web into one where every simple noun can be registered and used as a TLD extension. That spreads the user base for any one TLD very thin, hence not much value is created. It also creates a very messy naming system that in my opinion will confuse and frustrate the hell out of surfers and users.

"So far, they have not been accepted by adult webmasters, nor the adult community. Will that change some day? It's possible. "

You would be very surprised to see what is happening behind the scenes

[adultchatpay]

Not worth 3M.

[TROLLENSTEIN]

Paying $3M now may seem crazy, but $3M for that .XXX package will probably look like a bargain in a couple of years if even half the stuff currently in development comes to fruition. You don't spend that kind of money on a wim.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by JFK

"So far, they have not been accepted by adult webmasters, nor the adult community. Will that change some day? It's possible. "

You would be very surprised to see what is happening behind the scenes

Why not tell us?

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by JFK

"So far, they have not been accepted by adult webmasters, nor the adult community. Will that change some day? It's possible. "

You would be very surprised to see what is happening behind the scenes

I would like to know what is going on behind the scenes. But you really need to define... "which scenes"... because it does make a difference.

I know... with 100% certainty... ICM is trying to get all adult sites onto an adult TLD. I also know that government crack down is inevitable. I also know that in an ideal ICM world... anyone owning a dot com adult site would be mandated to purchase a dot xxx.

Am I delusional? Or is this just another money grab?

[TROLLENSTEIN]

Originally Posted by beaner

Am I delusional? Or is this just another money grab?

I don't think you're being delusional, at all. ICM would, obviously, love all Adult sites to be moved onto the .XXX TLD (they would of liked it even more if that had happened before they were forced them to lower the prices!). I think if all the .COM TLD of worth are taken, the smart thing to do would be to transform the .XXX TLD into something new, something that can shift the .COM Adult monopoly back in favour of Owners/Producers/Affiliates/etc. And from what I know of what projects currently in development that will be using the .XXX TLD (not development on the TLD itself!) they could very well be outrageously successful. There are a lot of smart people, and people with the money needed to bring these things to life, working on projects that sound very, very cool indeed.

[DBS.US]

Don't fall for the scam

[ErectMedia]

Originally Posted by nikki99

now I know where my pussycash chargeback money goes

meanwhile .Com doesn't need to be labeled as "Premium" cause it's been branded as the default extension for many years with many dollars. No way I would invest in an alternate extension without owning the .Com as well.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by beaner

I would like to know what is going on behind the scenes. But you really need to define... "which scenes"... because it does make a difference.

I know... with 100% certainty... ICM is trying to get all adult sites onto an adult TLD. I also know that government crack down is inevitable. I also know that in an ideal ICM world... anyone owning a dot com adult site would be mandated to purchase a dot xxx.

Am I delusional? Or is this just another money grab?

most people are stupid... the ones that are not stupid play stupid... it is a game of stupid ness

[InfoGuy]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

but maybe they'll do different things there if $5 million (a lot) invested.

Corbin Fisher allegedly paid $500,000 for Gay.xxx 3 years ago and it's still a parking page. Just because Pussycash allegedly paid $3+ million for Sex.xxx and a few other dozen domains doesn't mean that these domains will ever be developed or even if developed that they would be successful.

.xxx is a ghost town. Anyone buying .xxx and spending money and effort to build .xxx sites is just wasting their money. It's the equivalent of building a store in the middle of the desert with no roads that lead to it. Collectively, millions of companies have spent many billions of dollars developing and marketing .com sites. Why would anyone serious about their business want to waste resources buying and developing anything significant on .xxx instead of .com?

I agree with seeric and others that this is likely some propaganda to dupe fools into thinking that .xxx has a future ahead.

[The Porn Nerd]

.xxx is only something I would invest in if I were forced to do so.

[datingfactory.xxx]

I can sell sex.international for half that price :D

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by TROLLENSTEIN

I don't think you're being delusional, at all. ICM would, obviously, love all Adult sites to be moved onto the .XXX TLD (they would of liked it even more if that had happened before they were forced them to lower the prices!). I think if all the .COM TLD of worth are taken, the smart thing to do would be to transform the .XXX TLD into something new, something that can shift the .COM Adult monopoly back in favour of Owners/Producers/Affiliates/etc. And from what I know of what projects currently in development that will be using the .XXX TLD (not development on the TLD itself!) they could very well be outrageously successful. There are a lot of smart people, and people with the money needed to bring these things to life, working on projects that sound very, very cool indeed.

A lot of times greed will blind. It is human nature.

Cant believe stephen from xbiz is vp of that money suck.

[Ruseful]

Congratulations to PussyCash on this deal.

Wether you believe this deal or not, there is no doubt that PussyCash are one of the smartest adult companies in the industry. With their huge $5m purchase, they join an ever increasing list of companies who are investing in the .xxx (and .porn, .sex and .adult) domain extension. Companies such as mine, Really Useful, Pimproll, Grooby, Corbin Fisher, Clips4Sale etc etc. What you should be asking yourself is pretty simple... Why are they doing so?

Love me or hate me, I am a big buyer of .xxx domains. From joining the ICM Founders Program in early 2011, to launching the world's first .xxx domains in Casting.xxx and Orgasms.xxx, to going on to make some high profile purchases such as teen.xxx for $400k, tube.xxx and tubes.xxx for $750k. In fact, my investment in .xxx domains sits close to $2m and in excess of 300 domains.

When PR is written about my own .xxx purchases and posted to the boards, its the same naysayers with the same comments, every time. Voicing their opinions on why they won't get involved in the .xxx, why its an ICM "shakedown". I respond on these threads, not to justify my purchase/s, but to share my views and my beliefs on where the internet is heading. And with every high profile purchase of .xxx domains, by some of the biggest companies in the adult industry, not only does it back up my judgement, but also increases the value of my .xxx domain portfolio.

So, why do I buy .xxx domains? Well, as far as I am aware, domains will last generations, as long as you pay your renewal fee's each year. Its probably easier for me to ask YOU some questions, so let me throw some "what if's?" out there:

1: What if, with all the new gTld's being released, the search engines started to do things differently?

2: What if users were educated to change the way they searched for things, to get better, more relevant results?

3: What if the search engines identified a way to increase their revenues by using the new gTld's to optimise results and to improve the overall end user search experience?

4: What if the search engines had already started doing this?

5: What if the search engines started to give preference to websites that were on the correct domain extension? For example, a porn site featuring Czech porn, on the domain Czech.porn or Czech.xxx would be better ranked than Czechporn.com or Czechporn.net. Lens.camera would be ranked higher than cameralens.com, ReplacementDoors.kitchen would be ranked higher than KitchenReplacementDoors.com.

6: What if ICAAN, in their wisdom of releasing an infinite amount of new gTld's, have done so, not for todays internet user, but for tomorrows?

7: What if ICAAN looked at the congestion on .com, .net etc and realised that even now, most of the good domains are registered.

8: What if ICAAN were worried that this congestion would suppress the future generations of internet entrepreneurs?

9: What if you were born today, and could fast forward 20 years to the year 2034. What scenario do you think would make for a better internet?:

a. That ICAAN did NOT release all the new gTld's, and the internet was restricted to the extensions that we know of today.
or
b. That ICAAN, starting in 2011, allowed any qualified company to launch their own gTld, and enabled websites to be created on a relevant domain?

My belief is that scenario a=clusterfuck, scenario b=logical.

10: What if legislation was brought in, that all adult websites had to be on a .xxx, .porn, .sex or .adult extension? Are you positioned accordingly to deal with this?

11: What if companies like Pimproll (porn.xxx) Pussycash (sex.xxx) Grooby (shemales.xxx) CorbinFisher (gay.xxx) Really Useful (teen.xxx) Clips4Sale (clips.xxx) to name but a few, purchased their marquee domains based on facts and real data from their own due diligence?

12: What if you could wind the clock back 20 years, do you think you would invest heavily in .com domains?

What if you agreed or said yes with/to just one of these "what if's"?

[Ruseful]

Originally Posted by PikaPoka

Overpriced.

Hey PikaPoka,

Here is an example for you:

I noticed you have your domain on www.MPB.sx, whilst I understand that .sx domain extension does look like an abbreviation for sex, the .sx is the country specific extension for Sint Maartin.

Why don't you register www.MPB.xxx? Its available, and with the grandfathering rights ICM give you, you would have www.MPB.porn, www.MPB.adult and yes, www.MPB.sex

You could even register www.MyBookmarks.xxx, and qualify for www.MyBookmarks.porn. That is available too.

Do you think that the search engines would give a better rating to www.MPB.sx (The country domain extension for Sint Maartin) or www.MPB.xxx (adult specific domain)?

At $80 per .xxx domain, is it really that much of an investment?

[bean-aid]

Total bullshit

[Ruseful]

Originally Posted by beaner

Total bullshit

Wish to elaborate exactly why every "what if" is total bullshit? Not looking to antagonise, but looking for a constructive debate if thats at all possible?

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by Ruseful

Wish to elaborate exactly why every "what if" is total bullshit? Not looking to antagonise, but looking for a constructive debate if thats at all possible?

It is not possible at this time

[bean-aid]

Besinds a corp that wants to steal ur money and say thank you.