You're dreaming.
You have no chance of getting guns and other weapons away from criminals.
It's just a dream.

Yeah, let's start "The War On Guns".
That'll be the first "War on something" that worked right?

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Yeah, those 80 dumb motherfuckers didn't have a gun to protect themselves.

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btw I do support the right to own guns, but I think they need to be heavily regulated and violent offenders using guns or knifes should be put away for life.

I'm kind of curious about people whom think we should have no restrictions on guns. Have any of you known anyone killed by guns?

A girl I knew since elementary school that was murdered by her boyfriend with a gun. Link

Another guy in 9th grade that accidentally killed himself with his parents gun..

Another friend whom I knew from elementary school that killed himself with a gun when he was 22 because his long time girlfriend left him.

Yet another family friend whom shot himself in the foot with a shotgun, he lived.


In each of these cases out side of the suicide it was irresponsible gun owners whom were at the root of the problem. Which is a pretty hefty amount of gun related deaths. Yet 99.9% of gun owners all think "they" are the responsible ones and nothing bad will come of them owning a gun.. The simple fact is most gun owners are not responsible enough to own guns, but that sure as hell doesn't stop them..

Look... you can go on and on all night long with this... you aren't going to change my mind.

And I know I'm not going to change yours. Since you are good at posting stats and interpreting them how you like, I'll do the same. You can choose to look at it... or not.

Bottom line is, Australia did a gun buy back and you'll notice they have way fewer gun deaths than the U.S. per capita.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_buyback_program

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate

But by all means... live in fear and keep your guns. No one is going to take them. Because no amount of school shootings, no amount of rampages, and no amount of melee mass murders in the U.S. is going to make a lick of difference. The mentally unstable will continue to be among gun owners, and innocent people will continue to be murdered daily... and the NRA and many citizens who lack personal empowerment in their lives will continue to be.

I'm going to skip looking at you stats; because you clearly didn't watch a single video from what I posted.

You've made no comment about them whatsoever because you didn't even consider the argument.

:2 cents:

The Santa Barbara shooter should have been shot to death by one of the first guys he stabbed.

End of story.

How many "Santa Barbara shooters" were shot by the first guy they tried to kill and that's why they never made the news?

?

And the graph is without meaning.

1) It is figures of all murders not just those by guns.

2) The figures rise then fall to a lower figure than before "the ban".

In a country where there were no people with no guns to ban.

People should really travel to some civilised countries and see how people live without shooting each other.

you can run your trap all day, but the simple fact is you think someone should believe cherry7 @ gfy over verifiable statistics, all while you try and make down your nose comments about civilized countries along with your other nonsense.



so stfu with your holier than tho bullshit.

http://i.imgur.com/SWhK4OQ.jpg?1

meanwhile, in fucking britain.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/artic...d%20turban.jpg

yay for civilized UK

http://www.maxfarquar.com/wp-content...-in-the-UK.jpg

we should all visit UK and see and enjoy civilized peoples so we can copy their successes.


http://colinseymour.co.uk/user/files...lent-crime.jpg

travel to and enjoy the wonderfully civilized UK!

http://resources3.news.com.au/images...s-day-four.jpg

well well, would you look at these stats, seems in your *civilized* country violent crime has stayed about the same over time, while in our uncivilized country, it's dropped dramatically over time.

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jJL6C6Lqdc...nt%2Bcrime.jpg

http://content.gallup.com/origin/gal...ngoyqi1fcg.gif

very good points mr smith :thumbsup

The U.S. is statistically safer than Britain,

(but not as civilized according to gfyer cherry7) :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GNfWQ8BKre...ada+the+US.gif


http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/c...20/cfi115.html

its getting beyond nuts.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/0...have-shot-him/

This is not only completely misleading, but not even related to our discussion here.

This chart discusses "violent crimes", not firearm related homicides. This list makes the UK look horrible - it leads in "violent crimes" - yet it ranks 13th in homicides. And yet when it says "13th in homicides" it still isn't a clear indication of "homicides by firearms".

And this list only discusses Europe.... So this information is completely useless.

If you take a look at homicides by firearms you get a different picture.

For example, per 100k residents, the UK has 0.18 homicides by firearms. Compare this to the US which had 2.8 homicides by firearms. (source)

umm, rochard, you're on record stating you don't read entire threads, why then do you pick single comments out and react to them out of context? So please, don't even try to argue you are discussing anything.

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If you had taken 60 seconds and read the thread you would have been able to sort out for yourself I am replying to the dipshit implication that britain is more civilized than the US.

I would suggest trying to keep up, but again, you yourself have said you have no intentions of trying to keep up.

:)

If you know I am on record for not reading entire threads why are pointing that out that I failed to read the entire thread and only commented on one post?

I love debating with statistics. The gun argument is always the same: "They banned firearms in the UK but crime went up". Yes, death rate by firearms dropped while violent crime went up. Less people died, more people got hit over the head. If you can't see how this is a good thing you might not be too bright in the first place. Do you want to be shot to death, or punched in the face?

Yes because after you have been stabbed in the heart. It's really easy to locate your gun andthen shoot