Does epoch suck or what? - GoFuckYourself.com

pornjudge · 03-08-2003, 02:04 PM

I never had even 1 sale threw sponsors using epoch as their processors. I have now 4 sponsors that are using them & I am sending good hits to the sites.... Here is the way I rank the processors:

#1 Ibill
#2 Ccbill
#3 Globalsale
#4 Globill
#5 Epoch

Interlude · 03-08-2003, 02:06 PM

No it doesn't suck. Only processor on that list that is comparable is CCBill.

traffic addict · 03-08-2003, 02:07 PM

Well, I see that you have good resolts with Ibiil, so you will be happy to know that we use them in all our sites

drops · 03-08-2003, 02:08 PM

nope.. 1:180 overall

Jizar II · 03-08-2003, 02:12 PM

Epoch seems to have a very unstable scrubbing system

Theo · 03-08-2003, 02:15 PM

having in mind many of the major per signup sponsors use epoch as primary processor and if you have good traffic you can maximize your earnings in many cases with them, probably what you posted isn't valid.

Hooper · 03-08-2003, 02:21 PM

Quote:

very unstable scrubbing system

can you translate that into english?

Theo · 03-08-2003, 02:23 PM

another thing,you can compare processors directly only when they are used over the same paysite, you do have the option to chose and your traffic comes from the same source all the time. If you are comparing sponsors using different processors it's a big mistake. A billing system won't make the difference alone.

Tipsy · 03-08-2003, 02:31 PM

On one I use that has Epoch as primary and iBill as a backup more sales have been through iBill than Epoch. I've always tried not to push too many epoch sites because of that. Obviously others may find it different but I can only speak from personal experience.

However that ratio has swung back towards Epoch recently which from stats seems to be more iBill scrubbing harder than Epoch less. It seems the Novemeber thing made most processors scrub just that bit harder but then I'm still more than happy enough if it means they all stay in business and I can continue to earn through them.

DrewKole · 03-08-2003, 02:32 PM

Epoch =

Jizar II · 03-08-2003, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper

can you translate that into english?

What I mean is that they seem to change their scrubbing level during processing periods.

So if 100% is the norm, our stats often look like this:

Day 01: 100%
Day 02: 100%
Day 03: 100%
Day 04: 100%
Day 05: 100%
Day 06: 60%
Day 07: 60%
Day 08: 100%
Day 09: 100%
Day 10: 100%
Day 11: 100%
Day 12: 100%
Day 13: 100%
Day 14: 60%
Day 15: 60%
Day 16: 100%
Day 17: 100%
...... etc.

Donnie Gangsta · 03-08-2003, 03:39 PM

You just don't know how to get sales

I average 150-200/day with Epoch + 100+ cross sales via ezclick every day, so a total of 250-300 per day. I would be glad to post stats so you could see. Epoch is fine.

KRL · 03-08-2003, 03:45 PM

The adult industry which led the way to create volumes of transactions on the Net since it started with commercial sites has clearly shown no system has been perfected even to this day.

You should have seen what it was like in the early days.

Oh my God is all I can say. I don't know how most of us kept our sanity during the initial stages of online transaction processing.

Martin · 03-08-2003, 03:47 PM

Same days are great with them and others like the last week or so have just plain sucked..

Cindyff · 03-08-2003, 04:00 PM

We work with http://www.busty2.com
Because they have a separate tour for each processor and use both Epoch and Ibill
We signed up with both and find that the Epoch promotions give us about 15% more sign ups than with IBILL from only SE traffic.

Just my

Cindy xx

Oliver Klozov · 03-08-2003, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornjudge
I never had even 1 sale threw sponsors using epoch as their processors. I have now 4 sponsors that are using them & I am sending good hits to the sites.... Here is the way I rank the processors:

#1 Ibill
#2 Ccbill
#3 Globalsale
#4 Globill
#5 Epoch

Ibill #1 ?????????????

Dude you need to cut back on the.................well what ever is your smoking!

Mikeee · 03-08-2003, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver Klozov

Ibill #1 ?????????????

Dude you need to cut back on the.................well what ever is your smoking!

No shit. iBill is the shittiest billing company out there, sooner or later they will fuck you over.

DrewKole · 03-08-2003, 04:13 PM

Not sure if I mentioned it, but... Epoch =

pornojail · 03-08-2003, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornjudge
I never had even 1 sale threw sponsors using epoch as their processors. I have now 4 sponsors that are using them & I am sending good hits to the sites.... Here is the way I rank the processors:

#1 Ibill
#2 Ccbill
#3 Globalsale
#4 Globill
#5 Epoch

#1 Ibill ????

Epoch

garry · 03-08-2003, 05:51 PM

I think you will have as many different views on this as there are stars in the sky.

Personally I think I have some idea about how these processors work after all the time we spent investigate them when we built the MPA2 program. Im not saying that this is the only truth, Im just shearing my experience.

The processors will tighten their scrubbing every once and a while. Some days are much worse then others. This is because of that they have to keep the number of charge backs under a surtan %.

The good thing about this is that the processors don't do this at the same time. And it is then it is good to have the cascading!

How ever, is it so that witch ever processor that let the most credit cards through is the best one ? If a processor let everyone and his dog through, cant it be so that this processor then will get a very high charge back ratio, and then have a bigger chance of getting in trouble with Visa ?

Just my two cents.

xxxinnovations · 03-08-2003, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornjudge
I never had even 1 sale threw sponsors using epoch as their processors. I have now 4 sponsors that are using them & I am sending good hits to the sites.... Here is the way I rank the processors:

#1 Ibill
#2 Ccbill
#3 Globalsale
#4 Globill
#5 Epoch

that's real fucked up... ibill should be dead fuckin last bro

Wizzo · 03-08-2003, 05:58 PM

"Or what" would be the correct answer... Epoch Rocks...

Sly_RJ · 03-08-2003, 07:01 PM

We process through Epoch and our affiliates love their conversions.

Pornkings · 03-08-2003, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornjudge
I never had even 1 sale threw sponsors using epoch as their processors. I have now 4 sponsors that are using them & I am sending good hits to the sites.... Here is the way I rank the processors:

#1 Ibill
#2 Ccbill
#3 Globalsale
#4 Globill
#5 Epoch

Your using the wrong sponsors then

03-08-2003, 03:45 PM	#13
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03-08-2003, 05:51 PM	#20
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03-08-2003, 05:58 PM	#22
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03-08-2003, 07:01 PM	#23
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03-08-2003, 02:04 PM	#1
pornjudge So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upmywomansass Posts: 2,214	Does epoch suck or what? I never had even 1 sale threw sponsors using epoch as their processors. I have now 4 sponsors that are using them & I am sending good hits to the sites.... Here is the way I rank the processors: #1 Ibill #2 Ccbill #3 Globalsale #4 Globill #5 Epoch

03-08-2003, 02:06 PM	#2
Interlude Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: State of Denial Posts: 1,147	No it doesn't suck. Only processor on that list that is comparable is CCBill.

03-08-2003, 02:07 PM	#3
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03-08-2003, 02:08 PM	#4
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03-08-2003, 02:12 PM	#5
Jizar II Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: LLL© Posts: 1,425	Epoch seems to have a very unstable scrubbing system

03-08-2003, 02:15 PM	#6
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	having in mind many of the major per signup sponsors use epoch as primary processor and if you have good traffic you can maximize your earnings in many cases with them, probably what you posted isn't valid.

03-08-2003, 02:23 PM	#8
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	another thing,you can compare processors directly only when they are used over the same paysite, you do have the option to chose and your traffic comes from the same source all the time. If you are comparing sponsors using different processors it's a big mistake. A billing system won't make the difference alone.

03-08-2003, 02:31 PM	#9
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	On one I use that has Epoch as primary and iBill as a backup more sales have been through iBill than Epoch. I've always tried not to push too many epoch sites because of that. Obviously others may find it different but I can only speak from personal experience. However that ratio has swung back towards Epoch recently which from stats seems to be more iBill scrubbing harder than Epoch less. It seems the Novemeber thing made most processors scrub just that bit harder but then I'm still more than happy enough if it means they all stay in business and I can continue to earn through them.

03-08-2003, 02:32 PM	#10
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Epoch =

03-08-2003, 03:39 PM	#12
Donnie Gangsta Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,104	You just don't know how to get sales I average 150-200/day with Epoch + 100+ cross sales via ezclick every day, so a total of 250-300 per day. I would be glad to post stats so you could see. Epoch is fine.

03-08-2003, 03:47 PM	#14
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	Same days are great with them and others like the last week or so have just plain sucked..

03-08-2003, 04:00 PM	#15
Cindyff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,187	We work with http://www.busty2.com Because they have a separate tour for each processor and use both Epoch and Ibill We signed up with both and find that the Epoch promotions give us about 15% more sign ups than with IBILL from only SE traffic. Just my Cindy xx

03-08-2003, 04:13 PM	#18
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Not sure if I mentioned it, but... Epoch =