My stats with twistyscash - GoFuckYourself.com

pornmasta · 05-11-2014, 01:53 PM

for this year:

1:36266
fortunately, i have some rebills... for the moment

wehateporn · 05-11-2014, 02:28 PM

Very scary!!

Nomarh · 05-11-2014, 07:17 PM

pretty bad

VSKevin · 05-11-2014, 07:18 PM

Ouch, best of luck to ya in the future.

BIGTYMER · 05-11-2014, 10:57 PM

Sorry my bot got stuck on your ref link...

bluebook18 · 05-11-2014, 11:03 PM

there content is great but conversion is terrible, how is that possible?

ctggls · 05-11-2014, 11:19 PM

For me it is the same with twistys but babes.com. Ever since manwin got the it has been like this..

VamosNicholas · 05-11-2014, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluebook18

there content is great but conversion is terrible, how is that possible?

I think it's too easily available across all of the sharing sites around. That's my guess anyway.

ohjulien · 05-11-2014, 11:49 PM

Soooo what Should one do, Move on? you pull up twistys and see
Brazzers
Mofos
Twistys
babes
Playboy
Wicked
Digital Playground
Webcams
Reality Cash
movie Box
Men

And we all Know Reality Kings

So What to do ?

Mediamix · 05-12-2014, 02:30 AM

With what kind of traffic?

signupdamnit · 05-12-2014, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohjulien

Soooo what Should one do, Move on? you pull up twistys and see
Brazzers
Mofos
Twistys
babes
Playboy
Wicked
Digital Playground
Webcams
Reality Cash
movie Box
Men

And we all Know Reality Kings

So What to do ?

Sell something which isn't available for free and more importantly that consumers expect to have to pay for. If the owners of the sites didn't protect their content and their industry then fuck them. You don't owe them anything. Let them destroy their own business if that is what they want.

Dating
Cams
Mainstream
Sex Toy Products

Kafka · 05-12-2014, 05:00 AM

Babe content is boring. That's why.

Lykos · 05-12-2014, 05:07 AM

It's hard to promote sites which everyone already know about...

pornmasta · 05-12-2014, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kafka

Babe content is boring. That's why.

no, that's not the problem, my conversion rates are pretty good with other babe program.
A part of the answer is the traffic.

Now, let's see my ratio, year after year:

01/01/12 - 05/15/12: 1:5484 (16 sign ups)
01/01/13 - 05/15/13: 1:3990 (16 sign ups)
08/01/13 - 12/31/13: 1:7169 (9 sign ups)

01/01/14 - 05/15/14: 1:36371 (1 recent sign up)

Now tell me: what happens at the end of 2013 ?

seeandsee · 05-12-2014, 07:18 AM

scary ratio this year

ShowMe69 · 05-12-2014, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

for this year:

1:36266
fortunately, i have some rebills... for the moment

Damn that's terrible, send that traffic to CuckoldLand.com we will beat that conversion ratio by a mile

pornmasta · 05-12-2014, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowMe69

Damn that's terrible, send that traffic to CuckoldLand.com we will beat that conversion ratio by a mile

it's unfortunately not that easy.
But if someone has an affiliate program with good promo materials (videos of a decent length, a strip tease would be the best) and with decent content inside an UPDATED member area, let me know.
Oh yes, if you have games inside your member area, it would be far better.

Harmon · 05-12-2014, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

08/01/13 - 12/31/13: 1:7169 (9 sign ups)

01/01/14 - 05/15/14: 1:36371 (1 recent sign up)

Now tell me: what happens at the end of 2013 ?

A MAJOR Google update happened mid to late October 2013. A lot of people dropped a ton of key spots, and I am guessing you are one of them? I'm also guessing that those 9 signups were people that either had you bookmarked or still cookied.

After the first of the year it died because your ranking were already dead... you were just still getting residual traffic or something.

08/01/13 - 12/31/13: 1:7169 (9 sign ups)
9 x 7169 (roughly) = 64,521 hits total

01/01/14 - 05/15/14: 1:36371 (1 recent sign up)
Easy. Your traffic to the site dropped in half (almost).

Factor in tubes and the amount of free shit out there, well I think you get it. People may be clicking through just to see what they have to offer in order to get out their pencil and pad so they know what to download on torrents or what to look for on the tube sites.

pornmasta · 05-12-2014, 07:29 AM

0 traffic from search engines.
Yes, 0 !
My traffic dropped because i did the same thing but with another sponsor (lifeselector), now i could show you my stats with lifeselector, they went from very good to very bad, in less than 2-3 months.
It is now the same thing with them: only teh rebills are remaining...

Harmon · 05-12-2014, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

0 traffic from search engines.
Yes, 0 !
My traffic dropped because i did the same thing but with another sponsor (lifeselector), now i could show you my stats with lifeselector, they went from very good to very bad, in less than 2-3 months.
It is now the same thing with them: only teh rebills are remaining...

Then let me ask you this, without prying to much into your personal information... where is the traffic coming from that you ARE sending to them? If there is ZERO organic traffic going to the sponsor... are you buying it? Are you feeding it with a site that DOES have organic SE traffic? If so, what type of content is the site that you are getting the organic traffic from?

You are leaving way too many variables out there in the wind, so it's hard to determine what it is that happened.

Sid70 · 05-12-2014, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

for this year:

1:36266
fortunately, i have some rebills... for the moment

I thought they closed the shop.

pornmasta · 05-12-2014, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

where is the traffic coming from that you ARE sending to them?

This traffic comes mostly from online games (flash files), it doesn't convert so well, but it should be better then this. I have a copycat competitor, that makes far more free games with promo content from twistys, but again 1/36000 is a questionable ratio.

wehateporn · 05-12-2014, 08:16 AM

Always remember this rule, to get your sales your traffic has to be growing month by month, give it a try and watch what happens; they only invest in those who are growing. Your affiliate sales are their investment in you

CaptainHowdy · 05-12-2014, 08:19 AM

MindGeekin' ...

pornmasta · 05-12-2014, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Always remember this rule, to get your sales your traffic has to be growing month by month, give it a try and watch what happens; they only invest in those who are growing.

is this a mechanic rule or a shaving rule ?
You know i could just change my sponsor...

wehateporn · 05-12-2014, 08:22 AM

Done by your affiliate manager

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

is this a mechanic rule or a shaving rule ?
You know i could just change my sponsor...

wehateporn · 05-12-2014, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

You know i could just change my sponsor...

It's a difficult one, CCBill converts at a much lower rate but at least you do get your sale. If you go for a sponsor who only invests in you when you are growing, you can actually make easier money as long as you stay within their 'growing' rule.

If it's a project you intend to leave best to go for third party billing

Nancy M00re · 05-12-2014, 08:55 AM

Hey pornmasta,

You are probably not using the right landing page for your traffic. We have all kinds now.
Why don't you just hit me up?

I am here to help

The Porn Nerd · 05-12-2014, 10:07 AM

Wow man, sounds like you have good traffic numbers so those conversions should be better....

Try either of my Programs - Erotic Revenue has more recent updates, HD, longer vids, better quality. But Porn Nerd Cash has a shitload of good sites to promote.

Contact me via ICQ anytime to discuss. Either way good luck and hope it gets better for you!

barelist · 05-12-2014, 10:16 AM

Did you contact Twistys?

Ours is 1:2866 for 2014.

2013 was 1:2100.

So not way off, and only comparing less than half a year of 2014.

pornmasta · 05-12-2014, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nancy M00re

You are probably not using the right landing page for your traffic. We have all kinds now.

thanks, i'll try
I'll perhaps contact you at the end of june or july, but since i changed something recently it wouldn't be useful now.

NiftyStats Jenna · 05-12-2014, 10:44 AM

no good

rockeru · 05-12-2014, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

This traffic comes mostly from online games (flash files), it doesn't convert so well, but it should be better then this. I have a copycat competitor, that makes far more free games with promo content from twistys, but again 1/36000 is a questionable ratio.

Don't blame Twistys for not converting for such crap traffic, my ratio has been 1:900 last year, 1:1100 this year.

pornmasta · 05-12-2014, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barelist

Ours is 1:2866 for 2014.

2013 was 1:2100.

ok thank you for this information, but we can't compare our ratios in this case.

pornmasta · 05-12-2014, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockeru

Don't blame Twistys for not converting for such crap traffic, my ratio has been 1:900 last year, 1:1100 this year.

check my ratio in the past, and again, WE CAN'T compare our ratio since my traffic source is different

pornmasta · 05-17-2014, 03:01 PM

So i updated the tour that i linked and i have 2 sign ups today.
I hope that it is legit users...

PornDude · 05-17-2014, 03:07 PM

Here is my top 10

1. VideoBox
2. VideosZ
3. NastyDollars
4. MofosCash
5. BangBros
6. TwistysCash
7. HustlerCash
8. DieselAction
9. NubileFilms
10. KinkyDollars

Must have: CrakRevenue

bean-aid · 05-17-2014, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

it's unfortunately not that easy.
But if someone has an affiliate program with good promo materials (videos of a decent length, a strip tease would be the best) and with decent content inside an UPDATED member area, let me know.
Oh yes, if you have games inside your member area, it would be far better.

Games are the bomb. Are you getting any traffic from that strip poker game you made?

DavieVegas · 05-17-2014, 03:23 PM

Mine was even worse with bigger numbers. Unfortunately that content doesnt convert anymore

pornmasta · 05-17-2014, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner

Games are the bomb. Are you getting any traffic from that strip poker game you made?

if you have a sponsor, you can paste it here or as private message.
Also, there is probably too much strip poker games (especially free one), it is hard to make them viral with game websites.

Pryda · 05-18-2014, 02:39 AM

1:2673 for babepedia.com this year. Last year was a bit better: 1:2301.

SekobA · 05-18-2014, 08:46 AM

that is real nightmare for you

BAKO · 05-18-2014, 09:33 AM

Traffic always needs to be optimized. it's not 1997 lol

xXXtesy10 · 05-18-2014, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

for this year:

1:36266
fortunately, i have some rebills... for the moment

New owners?

SomeCreep · 05-18-2014, 11:05 AM

Tube sites.

Sednub997 · 05-18-2014, 11:30 AM

some bad stats

fuzebox · 05-18-2014, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

01/01/12 - 05/15/12: 1:5484 (16 sign ups)
01/01/13 - 05/15/13: 1:3990 (16 sign ups)
08/01/13 - 12/31/13: 1:7169 (9 sign ups)

01/01/14 - 05/15/14: 1:36371 (1 recent sign up)

You made this thread because of a program you have sent 40 signups to in the last 3 years?

Harmon · 05-18-2014, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

You made this thread because of a program you have sent 40 signups to in the last 3 years?

signupdamnit · 05-18-2014, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

You made this thread because of a program you have sent 40 signups to in the last 3 years?

I think he's complaining because of the 1:36,371 part this year. A couple years ago most people would have expected at least 10-20 sales from that, not one.

But your graphic brings up a good point. The industry is pretty much turning normal paysite affiliates into McDonald's workers. You can't win with 1:30,000 conversions. In fact it's very hard with even 1:5,000 conversions.

If you mock him then you're probably mocking 90% of normal non-tube paysite affiliates out there with about the same volume.

wehateporn · 05-18-2014, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

You made this thread because of a program you have sent 40 signups to in the last 3 years?

Maybe he's got 1000 different sponsors, or if not and it's only for a few sales here and there, he should still expect get his sales

05-11-2014, 01:53 PM	#1
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,168	My stats with twistyscash for this year: 1:36266 fortunately, i have some rebills... for the moment

05-11-2014, 02:28 PM	#2
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	Very scary!! __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

05-11-2014, 07:18 PM	#4
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05-12-2014, 02:30 AM	#10
Mediamix Dutch Webmaster! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 3,228	With what kind of traffic? __________________ Sig too big

05-12-2014, 05:07 AM	#13
Lykos Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: World Posts: 31,027	It's hard to promote sites which everyone already know about... __________________

05-11-2014, 07:17 PM	#3
Nomarh So fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: West Coast Posts: 192	pretty bad

05-11-2014, 10:57 PM	#5
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Sorry my bot got stuck on your ref link...

05-11-2014, 11:03 PM	#6
bluebook18 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Soon On Mars Posts: 4,082	there content is great but conversion is terrible, how is that possible?

05-11-2014, 11:19 PM	#7
ctggls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 898	For me it is the same with twistys but babes.com. Ever since manwin got the it has been like this..

05-11-2014, 11:49 PM	#9
ohjulien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 126	Soooo what Should one do, Move on? you pull up twistys and see Brazzers Mofos Twistys babes Playboy Wicked Digital Playground Webcams Reality Cash movie Box Men And we all Know Reality Kings So What to do ?

05-12-2014, 05:00 AM	#12
Kafka Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 466	Babe content is boring. That's why.

05-12-2014, 07:18 AM	#15
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05-12-2014, 07:29 AM	#19
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,168	0 traffic from search engines. Yes, 0 ! My traffic dropped because i did the same thing but with another sponsor (lifeselector), now i could show you my stats with lifeselector, they went from very good to very bad, in less than 2-3 months. It is now the same thing with them: only teh rebills are remaining... Last edited by pornmasta; 05-12-2014 at 07:33 AM..

05-12-2014, 08:16 AM	#23
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	Always remember this rule, to get your sales your traffic has to be growing month by month, give it a try and watch what happens; they only invest in those who are growing. Your affiliate sales are their investment in you __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing Last edited by wehateporn; 05-12-2014 at 08:24 AM..

05-12-2014, 08:19 AM	#24
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05-12-2014, 08:55 AM	#28
Nancy M00re Pegas Productions Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 2,278	Hey pornmasta, You are probably not using the right landing page for your traffic. We have all kinds now. Why don't you just hit me up? I am here to help __________________ www.pegasmoney.com www.chickpasscash.com Telegram: @Nancym00re

05-12-2014, 10:07 AM	#29
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05-12-2014, 10:16 AM	#30
barelist Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 523	Did you contact Twistys? Ours is 1:2866 for 2014. 2013 was 1:2100. So not way off, and only comparing less than half a year of 2014. __________________ http://www.barelist.com http://www.twitter.com/barelist

05-12-2014, 10:44 AM	#32
NiftyStats Jenna Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,234	no good __________________ ⭐Affiliate Stats Tracking Software ⭐ Your success comes from knowing the market situation well!⭐

05-17-2014, 03:01 PM	#36
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,168	So i updated the tour that i linked and i have 2 sign ups today. I hope that it is legit users...

05-17-2014, 03:07 PM	#37
PornDude I'm still broke. Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: WildWildWest Posts: 3,084	Here is my top 10 1. VideoBox 2. VideosZ 3. NastyDollars 4. MofosCash 5. BangBros 6. TwistysCash 7. HustlerCash 8. DieselAction 9. NubileFilms 10. KinkyDollars Must have: CrakRevenue

05-17-2014, 03:23 PM	#39
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05-18-2014, 02:39 AM	#41
Pryda Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 904	1:2673 for babepedia.com this year. Last year was a bit better: 1:2301. __________________ Babepedia

05-18-2014, 08:46 AM	#42
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05-18-2014, 09:33 AM	#43
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05-18-2014, 11:05 AM	#45
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05-18-2014, 11:30 AM	#46
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