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signupdamnit · 04-21-2014, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

stop talking about shit you know nothing about and certainly knock it off with the "many people don't understand" bullshit since you are clearly one of them.

I see I angered someone. Yes it's true. Most Americans do not understand that the president has very little power. Congress actually makes the laws. Yet you hear people go on and on and on about the president. Sadly most Americans don't vote unless it's a Presidential election. They do not realize that Congress is mostly responsible.

dyna mo · 04-21-2014, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

I see I angered someone. Yes it's true. Most Americans do not understand that the president has very little power. Congress actually makes the laws. Yet you hear people go on and on and on about the president. Sadly most Americans don't vote unless it's a Presidential election. They do not realize that Congress is mostly responsible.

I'm not angry at all. You give yourself way too much credit, like your previous post. and you keep yapping your nonsense

But again, knock it off with the bullshit, you have absolutely no idea what you are typing out.

MaDalton · 04-21-2014, 09:21 AM

the top 5 of the oil industry make about 120+ billion $ in profits per year while receiving up to 52 billion $ in subsidies annually

makes you wonder who the real leeches are

(disclaimer: i also don't condone people playing the system for their benefit without making an effort)

brassmonkey · 04-21-2014, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz

I read a lot in your media/bb he's weak and very inefficient
Just curious how do you feel about your president and his 'changes'

you better worry about your own shit crashing down on you.

hows your leader handling his shit? he packed his shit yet??

signupdamnit · 04-21-2014, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

I'm not angry at all. You give yourself way too much credit, like your previous post. and you keep yapping your nonsense

But again, knock it off with the bullshit, you have absolutely no idea what you are typing out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separa...s_and_balances

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Legislative

Writes and enacts laws
Enacts taxes, authorizes borrowing, and sets the budget
Has sole power to declare war
May start investigations, especially against the executive branch
he Senate considers presidential appointments of judges and executive department heads
The Senate ratifies treaties
The House of Representatives may impeach, and the Senate may remove, executive and judicial officers
Sets up federal courts except the Supreme Court, and sets the number of justices on the Supreme Court
May override presidential vetoes

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Executive

May veto laws
Wages war at the direction of Congress (Congress makes the rules for the military)
Makes decrees or declarations (for example, declaring a state of emergency) and promulgates lawful regulations and executive orders
Influences other branches of its agenda with the State of the Union address.
Appoints judges and executive department heads
Has power to grant pardons to convicted persons, except in cases of impeachment

mikesouth · 04-21-2014, 10:03 AM

In my experience the country runs best with a republican house a near split senate and a democratic president.

the conflict keeps spending a little lower (admittedly not enough) and the democratic president seems less interested in what i do in the privacy of my own home.

crockett · 04-21-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

the top 5 of the oil industry make about 120+ billion $ in profits per year while receiving up to 52 billion $ in subsidies annually

makes you wonder who the real leeches are

(disclaimer: i also don't condone people playing the system for their benefit without making an effort)

You also have to love that a big deal is made about a rancher whom supposedly owed 1 million to the BLM to let 500 to 1k cows graze. Yet that very same BLM just leased land to 6 oil & gas companies in the same state to drill gas & oil and all 6 together only paid 1.2 million for their lease..

I understand the outrage in a sense over the rancher, yet why does no one care that these big oil companies are making ridiculous profits while paying peanuts for land leases on federally owned land. That is money that US and even state tax payers are being cheated out of while big oil & gas reap the profits and then price gouge us at the pumps.

dyna mo · 04-21-2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separa...s_and_balances

You just proved my point that you are speaking to things which you do not understand because a link to a short list of some of the responsibilities of the congress in no way supports your claims that

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

... the president is primarily just a figurehead. ...the power he has (not much)

and

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

7.0 / 10.0

In the USA many people (including Americans) do not understand this but the president is primarily just a figurehead. It's congress who makes the laws.

You might have posted the line from the 250 year old constitution-

*all legislative powers shall be vested in the Congress*

But the fact is that in the ~240 years since the interpretation of it's guidelines has changed.

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Despite the Constitutional provision that "all legislative powers" shall be vested in the Congress, the president, as the chief formulator of public policy, has a major legislative role. The president can veto any bill passed by Congress and, unless two-thirds in each house vote to override the veto, the bill does not become law. Much of the legislation dealt with by Congress is drafted at the initiative of the executive branch. In an annual and special messages to Congress, the president may propose legislation he or she believes is necessary. If Congress should adjourn without acting on those proposals, the president has the power to call it into special session. But, beyond all this, the president, as head of a political party and as principal executive officer of the U.S. government, is in a position to influence public opinion and thereby to influence the course of legislation in Congress. To improve their working relationships with Congress, presidents in recent years have set up a Congressional Liaison Office in the White House. Presidential aides keep abreast of all important legislative activities and try to persuade senators and representatives of both parties to support administration policies.

So that also negates your claim that most Americans don't know that the president is a figurehead with little power, that's just simply not true at all.

Rochard · 04-21-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

the top 5 of the oil industry make about 120+ billion $ in profits per year while receiving up to 52 billion $ in subsidies annually

makes you wonder who the real leeches are

(disclaimer: i also don't condone people playing the system for their benefit without making an effort)

But what does this have to do with Obama? This has happened under every President since Rockefeller and Standard Oil....

MaDalton · 04-21-2014, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

But what does this have to do with Obama? This has happened under every President since Rockefeller and Standard Oil....

i forgot to quote this

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20056872&postcount=25

Vendzilla · 04-21-2014, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

A few good things...

No war in Iran. Till they get there Nuke built
No Keystone Pipeline. Lose of jobs and high prices still on gas
Porn is still legal. Just can't shoot in LA anymore
No oil drilling in the Arctic. I don't see a win here
No war in Syria. Just let people keep getting gased
Looser marijuana laws. Feds keep raiding state approved clinics
No war with Russia. Russia is happy about this because they can keep killing people

A few bad things...

Still way too much money in politics. Agreed, but I found out a way to make some money off it
Still no term limits for most political positions. I would be happy if Pelosi would leave
Nowhere near enough alternate energy progress. Like laptop battery powered cars?
Nowhere near enough corporate and banking regulations. I thought Obama fixed that? LOL
Not enough punching Republicans right in the face. Yeah, that's a way to fix it, NOT

So it's been a mixed bag, so far.

I added a couple things you missed

signupdamnit · 04-21-2014, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

You just proved my point that you are speaking to things which you do not understand because a link to a short list of some of the responsibilities of the congress in no way supports your claims that

and

You might have posted the line from the 250 year old constitution-

*all legislative powers shall be vested in the Congress*

But the fact is that in the ~240 years since the interpretation of it's guidelines has changed.

So that also negates your claim that most Americans don't know that the president is a figurehead with little power, that's just simply not true at all.

LOL. Oooookay.

MaDalton · 04-21-2014, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I added a couple things you missed

you don't have high prices on gas

dyna mo · 04-21-2014, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

LOL. Oooookay.

Moreover, the President has had immense power re: legislation for a long time, the textbook example of this is from 50 years ago but more examples go back further.

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In an 11 June 1963 speech broadcast live on national television and radio, President John F. Kennedy unveiled plans to pursue a comprehensive civil rights bill in Congress, stating, ‘‘this nation, for all its hopes and all its boasts, will not be fully free until all its citizens are free’’ (‘‘President Kennedy’s Radio-TV Address,’’ 970). King congratulated Kennedy on his speech, calling it ‘‘one of the most eloquent, profound and unequivocal pleas for justice and the freedom of all men ever made by any president’’ (King, 12 June 1963).

The earlier Civil Rights Act of 1957, the first law addressing the legal rights of African Americans passed by Congress since Reconstruction, had established the Civil Rights division of the Justice Department and the U.S. Civil Rights Commission to investigate claims of racial discrimination. Before the 1957 bill was passed Congress had, however, removed a provision that would have empowered the Justice Department to enforce the Brown v. Board of Education decision. A. Philip Randolph and other civil rights leaders continued to press the major political parties and presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower and John F. Kennedy to enact such legislation and to outlaw segregation.

The civil rights legislation that Kennedy introduced to Congress on 19 June 1963 addressed these issues, and King advocated for its passage.

Sly · 04-21-2014, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

you don't have high prices on gas

You can't compare prices in Country A to Country B. If we did that, I'm really pissed off at taco prices in Texas because in Mexico I can get five delicious steak tacos for three dollars!

Barry-xlovecam · 04-21-2014, 11:52 AM

Subsidies?

The government subsidizes the energy industry and gasoline here is $0.93 /liter today here how much is gasoline there? (That price includes all taxes). So, my price is less that yours in the EU ...

So the cost of these subsidies are just a talking point .

The cost of imported oil is about the same or less in the EU than in the USA. So, why are your prices so high. What do all the added taxes subsidise there?

CamTraffic · 04-21-2014, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Wow. You seemed a bit dumb, but this generalization shows that you are actually that much stupid. I mean yes, there are more republicans that hate blacks than democrats, but that is not even close to what you just spewed

Moronicy level: 10/10

I agree. Wow!

MaDalton · 04-21-2014, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

You can't compare prices in Country A to Country B. If we did that, I'm really pissed off at taco prices in Texas because in Mexico I can get five delicious steak tacos for three dollars!

in relation to the average income your gas prices are still very low compared to the rest of the world - not counting countries like Iran, VAE, Dubai or Venezuela that heavily subsidize (even worse than the US)

it is like it is - cant help it

dyna mo · 04-21-2014, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

You can't compare prices in Country A to Country B. If we did that, I'm really pissed off at taco prices in Texas because in Mexico I can get five delicious steak tacos for three dollars!

stop complaining! you are leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of us with tex-mex, the best food ever.

Sly · 04-21-2014, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

in relation to the average income your gas prices are still very low compared to the rest of the world - not counting countries like Iran, VAE, Dubai or Venezuela that heavily subsidize (even worse than the US)

it is like it is - cant help it

Compared to the rest of the world doesn't matter. If the price of XYZ inflates by even 10% in a given country, that's all that matters. The price of XYZ in China, India, Germany, or Morocco matters little to a family in the middle of Nebraska.

Sly · 04-21-2014, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

stop complaining! you are leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of us with tex-mex, the best food ever.

I like CalMex better. Wanna swap?

Would kill for carne asada fries and jamaica...

dyna mo · 04-21-2014, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I like CalMex better. Wanna swap?

Would kill for carne asada fries and jamaica...

dang.

mex out here is delicious, true, but some of those tex-mex restaurants I recall in Austin and Houston still make my stomach growl they were that good.

Vendzilla · 04-21-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

in relation to the average income your gas prices are still very low compared to the rest of the world - not counting countries like Iran, VAE, Dubai or Venezuela that heavily subsidize (even worse than the US)

it is like it is - cant help it

Yes, we have high gas prices compared to what it should be. You don't drive as much as people drive here.

Why I ride my bike as much as I do, it gets 40 mpg

Vendzilla · 04-21-2014, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

dang.

mex out here is delicious, true, but some of those tex-mex restaurants I recall in Austin and Houston still make my stomach growl they were that good.

I like the taco trucks in the Valley, $1.35 a taco

Vendzilla · 04-21-2014, 04:14 PM

Want to know why the pipeline hasn't happened yet, here's the reason, it's money and only money
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101598459?__s...eystone%20oppo

Rochard · 04-21-2014, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Want to know why the pipeline hasn't happened yet, here's the reason, it's money and only money
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101598459?__s...eystone%20oppo

I think it's a wonderful idea for Canada to ship all of it's oil through the US and out to other countries.

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	In my experience the country runs best with a republican house a near split senate and a democratic president. the conflict keeps spending a little lower (admittedly not enough) and the democratic president seems less interested in what i do in the privacy of my own home. __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Subsidies? The government subsidizes the energy industry and gasoline here is $0.93 /liter today here how much is gasoline there? (That price includes all taxes). So, my price is less that yours in the EU ... So the cost of these subsidies are just a talking point . The cost of imported oil is about the same or less in the EU than in the USA. So, why are your prices so high. What do all the added taxes subsidise there?

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	Want to know why the pipeline hasn't happened yet, here's the reason, it's money and only money http://www.cnbc.com/id/101598459?__s...eystone%20oppo __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that