What would you do... - GoFuckYourself.com

brocklander · 03-07-2003, 11:51 AM

Say you've been submitting video galleries for a while and are kicking ass. You have hundreds of different galleries up on the various TGP's, the TGP owner's love you, and you are getting sales from both your past and your current galleries. All of a sudden, you find out your content provider has been deceptive and the content you have up there is not legally your's. You know this because you just received a cease and desist letter from the people who really own the content, informing you you have 12 hours to take the content down or else risk litigation.

What would you do in order to preserve the past traffic you have going to your galleries, preserve the relationship you have with the TGP owner's, and appease the true content owner who is threatening to sue you if something isn't done immediately (and won't consider licensing the content to you)?

a) 404/redirect the galleries to a sponsor's tour

b) trade out the content with content you do own the license for

c) ???

I don't have time to sue the original content provider, I can't e-mail all those TGP's. I only have 12 hours.

Now, buying hundreds and hundreds of video sets, cutting clips, making thumbs, etc. is not only a pain in the ass, it's expensive and wouldn't make me profitable in the long run. Maybe I could make one set or two, then upload those few sets and replace my current (infringing) ones. So yes, the TGP would be full of my galleries which contain the same 2 or 3 content sets.

There is no win-win, but what's the lease riskiest of the above solutions? Or is there a better solution than both of those?

sexyclicks · 03-07-2003, 11:54 AM

I wouldn't waste my time posting

El Pres · 03-07-2003, 11:56 AM

Have you got a licence.
Maybe send a copy to the people issuing the C&D, ask them if they would sell you the content themselves, or if not ask for more time to switch out the links as you thought your content was legally licenced.

dchottie · 03-07-2003, 11:57 AM

First I would verify that the company that sent you the cease and desist is actually the legal owner of the content. Second, do you have a release for the content you have been using and if you do is it legal? If it is then I don't see how they could make you cease and desist. If you're that worried about it though I think I would go to the sponsors that you're promoting and see if they have any replacement content you could substitute. I wouldn't deal with 404's as those will get you blacklisted by the TGP's you covet. I would also try to contact your best producing TGP's and ask them to remove those offending TGP's until you could figure out what to do.

Tala · 03-07-2003, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Pres
Have you got a licence.
Maybe send a copy to the people issuing the C&D, ask them if they would sell you the content themselves, or if not ask for more time to switch out the links as you thought your content was legally licenced.

brocklander · 03-07-2003, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Pres
Have you got a licence.
Maybe send a copy to the people issuing the C&D, ask them if they would sell you the content themselves, or if not ask for more time to switch out the links as you thought your content was legally licenced.

That would be the best bet, but what if they were opposed to licensing the content?

Is your vote to switch out the content?

Spunky · 03-07-2003, 12:02 PM

Format:\C

brocklander · 03-07-2003, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1
Format:\C

actually, it's format c: , followed by an expression such as "/s" for copying the system files or "/q" to do a quick format.

Nice try though!

brocklander · 03-07-2003, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dchottie
First I would verify that the company that sent you the cease and desist is actually the legal owner of the content. Second, do you have a release for the content you have been using and if you do is it legal? If it is then I don't see how they could make you cease and desist. If you're that worried about it though I think I would go to the sponsors that you're promoting and see if they have any replacement content you could substitute. I wouldn't deal with 404's as those will get you blacklisted by the TGP's you covet. I would also try to contact your best producing TGP's and ask them to remove those offending TGP's until you could figure out what to do.

Finally, some decent advice!

dchottie · 03-07-2003, 12:34 PM

lol . . . just call me the ann landers of the porn world

brocklander · 03-07-2003, 01:41 PM

El Pres · 03-07-2003, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brocklander

That would be the best bet, but what if they were opposed to licensing the content?

Is your vote to switch out the content?

If they give you an appropriate time to do it in, then yep.
Aslong as they prove it's theirs to start with.

Might be an idea to tell your host aswell,
so that they dont just pull your account if someone contacts them.

brocklander · 03-07-2003, 02:09 PM

12 hours is tough... ;-(

polish_aristocrat · 03-08-2003, 03:32 PM

and ...what happened?

Brown Bear · 03-08-2003, 03:45 PM

I've had people try to sell me stolen content before.

brocklander · 03-09-2003, 12:54 PM

I replaced out all the content with a set. Still got sales, lol.

Traffic didn't go down, submitted as usual, no blacklists so far...

(knock knock)

Thank God for CuteFTP Pro, the process was totally automated...didn't take very long.

Had I thought about it more, I probably could have written an .htaccess file to redirect to handle it, rather than uploading all that content.

03-07-2003, 11:51 AM	#1
brocklander Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 163	What would you do... Say you've been submitting video galleries for a while and are kicking ass. You have hundreds of different galleries up on the various TGP's, the TGP owner's love you, and you are getting sales from both your past and your current galleries. All of a sudden, you find out your content provider has been deceptive and the content you have up there is not legally your's. You know this because you just received a cease and desist letter from the people who really own the content, informing you you have 12 hours to take the content down or else risk litigation. What would you do in order to preserve the past traffic you have going to your galleries, preserve the relationship you have with the TGP owner's, and appease the true content owner who is threatening to sue you if something isn't done immediately (and won't consider licensing the content to you)? a) 404/redirect the galleries to a sponsor's tour b) trade out the content with content you do own the license for c) ??? I don't have time to sue the original content provider, I can't e-mail all those TGP's. I only have 12 hours. Now, buying hundreds and hundreds of video sets, cutting clips, making thumbs, etc. is not only a pain in the ass, it's expensive and wouldn't make me profitable in the long run. Maybe I could make one set or two, then upload those few sets and replace my current (infringing) ones. So yes, the TGP would be full of my galleries which contain the same 2 or 3 content sets. There is no win-win, but what's the lease riskiest of the above solutions? Or is there a better solution than both of those?

03-07-2003, 11:57 AM	#4
dchottie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 894	First I would verify that the company that sent you the cease and desist is actually the legal owner of the content. Second, do you have a release for the content you have been using and if you do is it legal? If it is then I don't see how they could make you cease and desist. If you're that worried about it though I think I would go to the sponsors that you're promoting and see if they have any replacement content you could substitute. I wouldn't deal with 404's as those will get you blacklisted by the TGP's you covet. I would also try to contact your best producing TGP's and ask them to remove those offending TGP's until you could figure out what to do. __________________

03-07-2003, 12:02 PM	#7
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03-07-2003, 12:34 PM	#10
dchottie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 894	lol . . . just call me the ann landers of the porn world __________________

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03-07-2003, 11:54 AM	#2
sexyclicks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: c9media.com Posts: 3,240	I wouldn't waste my time posting

03-07-2003, 11:56 AM	#3
El Pres Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Alicante, Spain Posts: 382	Have you got a licence. Maybe send a copy to the people issuing the C&D, ask them if they would sell you the content themselves, or if not ask for more time to switch out the links as you thought your content was legally licenced.

03-07-2003, 01:41 PM	#11
brocklander Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 163	lol

03-07-2003, 02:09 PM	#13
brocklander Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 163	12 hours is tough... ;-(

03-08-2003, 03:45 PM	#15
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	I've had people try to sell me stolen content before. __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

03-09-2003, 12:54 PM	#16
brocklander Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 163	I replaced out all the content with a set. Still got sales, lol. Traffic didn't go down, submitted as usual, no blacklists so far... (knock knock) Thank God for CuteFTP Pro, the process was totally automated...didn't take very long. Had I thought about it more, I probably could have written an .htaccess file to redirect to handle it, rather than uploading all that content.