What is stopping you from switching to Linux COMPLETELY? - GoFuckYourself.com

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:02 AM

Or any other desktop operating system other than windows for that matter....

Every time i do a new system format and cleaning I ponder whether or not to start fresh with Red Hat Linux.

I usually things start out well but there is always some tiny little blip (like the fact i can never get Mozilla to process plugins properly no matter how much I follow instructions...)

Eventually I revert back to Windows for a few tasks and whamo...back to square 1.

Anyone else? How do you finally let go of the Microsoft tittie?

Pnc · 03-07-2003, 11:04 AM

Bill Gates owns you.

Jakke PNG · 03-07-2003, 11:04 AM

I didn't. It's stable and relatively good for now. I think it's still the best option... unless you're a geek

SpaceAce · 03-07-2003, 11:04 AM

The only things stopping me are a few Windows programs I want to use, like Photoshop. Although, Linux does have the Gimp which is a very powerful graphics tool. When that gets a developed a little further, I may not need Photoshop any more. Other than that, I use Windows mainly to play games.

SpaceAce

mrthumbs · 03-07-2003, 11:06 AM

16 year olds that dont have to rely on computers for their income
ask questions like that.

Libertine · 03-07-2003, 11:07 AM

Mozilla + plugins = AARRGGHH!!!! ("Click me *CRASH*")

I use Linux for programming, Windows for surfing/games. Neither handles the part of the other well, so that makes it kinda easy to decide.

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:08 AM

http://filmgimp.sourceforge.net/

thats the kinda shit im excited about. Film Gimp (recent renamed CinePaint)

Also, the linux community is thriving and supported on the Ps2 by Sony. This has the most potential for moving people over to linux...

p00p · 03-07-2003, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by mrthumbs
16 year olds that dont have to rely on computers for their income
ask questions like that.

so true.....

xdcdave · 03-07-2003, 11:09 AM

my biggest challange is teaching the wife to use Linux.. That and there is no PhotoShop port without using Wine.

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by mrthumbs
16 year olds that dont have to rely on computers for their income
ask questions like that.

Excuse me? I guess chargebacks were high today.

How about anyone who wants to keep an eye on the future of digital technology?

Anyone who wants to be broke in 5 years ignores the progress of technology.

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by xdcdave
my biggest challange is teaching the wife to use Linux.. That and there is no PhotoShop port without using Wine.

GIMP GIMP GIMP....

gotta hunt and peck for the first whil but it was not so hard to dive into!

Triple 6 · 03-07-2003, 11:12 AM

Linux needs more corporate backing for dev'ing it as a real windows competitor... that would include doing what Apple is not doing enough. This means getting more support and dev done that rivals windows... meaning more games, more software, more of everything, and dont stop.

If you go to stores like BestBuy or CompUSA, Apple shit is shoved to a tiny corner, and PC owns the rest, and good luck with all the great linux selection.

Serge Litehead · 03-07-2003, 11:12 AM

mostly adobe holds me back, not sure if macromedia flash has something out for linux

keyDet79 · 03-07-2003, 11:13 AM

My required software binds me to Windows. And no, you can't emulate everything, even if you could, the speed would be much less anyway. So whats the use.

iroc409 · 03-07-2003, 11:13 AM

yeah, mostly just hardware compatibility here. and a few programs. but then again i couldn't bring myself down to the linux level....

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by p00p

so true.....

I guess everyone else in this thread is 16 too....

Don't worry p00p. I'll hire you one day. I'll always have room for a talented loser to clean my shitty underpants for minimum wage.

JFPdude · 03-07-2003, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by iroc409
yeah, mostly just hardware compatibility here. and a few programs. but then again i couldn't bring myself down to the linux level....

I totally agree. Why downgrade to linux from freebsd ?

NetRodent · 03-07-2003, 11:19 AM

We use windows on our desktops since 95% of our customers use windows. We want to experience our sites in a manner that is as similiar to our customers as possible.

rooster · 03-07-2003, 11:20 AM

Linux supporters at the moment are like people who think having a long flash intro on a site is a good thing.

Its great for hosting, but until it can offer what windows offers, theres no reason to switch as a desktop.

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by JFPdude

I totally agree. Why downgrade to linux from freebsd ?

I hate you fuckers....why BSD?

and what are the differences?

JeremySF · 03-07-2003, 11:21 AM

let's see ....

1) MS owns the desktop, hence I'm BG's bitch...
2) I don't like the UI as much as MS
3) Hardware and software compatibility

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
Linux supporters at the moment are like people who think having a long flash intro on a site is a good thing.

Its great for hosting, but until it can offer what windows offers, theres no reason to switch as a desktop.

Agreed but this is a huge waste of resources to be using multiple computers , multiple environments, etc.

mrthumbs · 03-07-2003, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

Excuse me? I guess chargebacks were high today.

How about anyone who wants to keep an eye on the future of digital technology?

Anyone who wants to be broke in 5 years ignores the progress of technology.

lol: no you dont. evolution takes care of that.
Just keep your eyes open and let other fuck around.

Anyway: the main 2 reasons for not being on a linux desktop:

1. 90% of my clients (yes.. the surfers) are on windows.
And if you want to ask me "what's that got to do with it"..
figure it out for yourself.

2. i dont have TIME to fuck around. Believe it or not: windows
is a decent and stable operating system supported by
the commercial side of everything and that's ALL you need.
It does EVERYTHING you would like to accomplish client-side during your daily tasks. Without a hassle. Really.

Believe it or not: unless (like apple did) unix is integrated
in some commercial OS there's no reason to spend time
investigating the possibilities of a linux desktop unless
youre a geek.

Linux is NOT the future.

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:23 AM

This is why i might buy another mac.

filmgimp (CinePaint) running on OSX

JeremySF · 03-07-2003, 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by Triple 6

If you go to stores like BestBuy or CompUSA, Apple shit is shoved to a tiny corner, and PC owns the rest, and good luck with all the great linux selection.

yep...true, true...unfortunately

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by mrthumbs

Linux is NOT the future.

Pity the closeminded!

?There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.?
--Ken Olson, founder of Digital Equipment Corp. 1977

"640 Kilobytes of computer memory ought to be enough for anybody. "
-- Bill Gates, 1981

I guess we wont have to worry mr.thumbs in the future. He's already resigned to fail. Sink or swim friend...sink or swim.

JFPdude · 03-07-2003, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

I hate you fuckers....why BSD?

and what are the differences?

1. Freebsd handles multiprocessing requests much better than any flavor of linux.

2. It supports more hardware than any flavor of linux.

3. Freebsd ports are upgraded faster than any linux flavor packages are which makes for easier upgrades.

p00p · 03-07-2003, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

I guess everyone else in this thread is 16 too....

Don't worry p00p. I'll hire you one day. I'll always have room for a talented loser to clean my shitty underpants for minimum wage.

hahaha...this coming from a guy who has to 'admin' his server using Plesk or Ensim. Dude, you don't even have a fucking clue what linux is.

Go back to cut and pasting from drudgereport. Do you have any other tricks you can perform? lol

mrthumbs · 03-07-2003, 11:35 AM

?There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.?
--Ken Olson, founder of Digital Equipment Corp. 1977

The difference between now and 1977 is that there currently
IS a stable and good environment (called windows) available
_and used_ by the masses.

Do you have ANY idea what impact a simple upgrade
from win98 to win2k means?
There is NO fucking way people will switch to unix, mac
or whatever OS in the forseeable future. REALLY.

lol.. but let's make a deal:

if your predictions are right and 5 or 7 years from now
im sitting here with my Win2007 and CANT do shit,
totally lost and without income and wondering
what my wife is talking about with her 'Linux stuff':

i'll call you and make you an offer to swap your burger contract
for a job at my office. I'll even raise your salary with 30%.

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by JFPdude

1. Freebsd handles multiprocessing requests much better than any flavor of linux.

2. It supports more hardware than any flavor of linux.

3. Freebsd ports are upgraded faster than any linux flavor packages are which makes for easier upgrades.

so are we talking for HOSTING right?

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

hahaha...this coming from a guy who has to 'admin' his server using Plesk or Ensim. Dude, you don't even have a fucking clue what linux is.
Go back to cut and pasting from drudgereport. Do you have any other tricks you can perform? lol

still stalking me. some people lead, some people follow.

mrthumbs · 03-07-2003, 11:38 AM

Oh.. and this is a client-side discussion..

If we are talking server-side there is only one option:

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by mrthumbs

i'll call you and make you an offer to swap your burger contract
for a job at my office. I'll even raise your salary with 30%.

another guy bragging about the size of his bankroll rather then the future of his business.

I bet your dick is bigger then mine too right?

Do you want to beat me up too?

xerox · 03-07-2003, 11:38 AM

linux sucks. BSD BAY-BIE!

mrthumbs · 03-07-2003, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

another guy bragging about the size of his bankroll rather then the future of his business.

I bet your dick is bigger then mine too right?

Do you want to beat me up too?

you really ARE a kid. arent you?

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by mrthumbs

Thats a lovely 15" monitor.

Tell me, did your hugely successful company buy that for you OR did you find it while dumpster diving?

p00p · 03-07-2003, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

still stalking me. some people lead, some people follow.

You are definitely a follower, little man. Your opinions are not formed through experience, they are formed through idiotic questions. Which makes you a follower.
"What is BSD"

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by mrthumbs

you really ARE a kid. arent you?

Dude, youre' the one that started bragging about how successful you were going to be in 2007.

I heard that constant contradiction was a sign of retardation.

mrthumbs · 03-07-2003, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

Thats a lovely 15" monitor.

Tell me, did your hugely successful company buy that for you OR did you find it while dumpster diving?

It's a 21"..

You cant even tell the difference between 15 and 21 and
you are comparing OS'es and making future predictions?

Hope your burger career works out. Back to school buddy.

some_idiot · 03-07-2003, 11:43 AM

The fact that I run FreeBSD 97% of the time and the other 3%
is checking html placement in win98/IE.

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

You are definitely a follower, little man. Your opinions are not formed through experience, they are formed through idiotic questions. Which makes you a follower.
"What is BSD"

I'm not sure I ever asked that question...but like other small minded people you just made assumptions.

I was asking one user of one operating system his opinions about the benefits of one operating system over another.

If you would like me to spell this out in Macaroni Pasta Letters I can have my attorney do it for you. I dont have the time to waste it on inconseqeuential stalkers.

goBigtime · 03-07-2003, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by iroc409
yeah, mostly just hardware compatibility here. and a few programs. but then again i couldn't bring myself down to the linux level....

Thumbelina · 03-07-2003, 11:47 AM

Dont fuck with the fucker .........MrThumbs at least turn on your light..............LOL

Well I leased him that 15" for $45.00/month so he is happy

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by mrthumbs

It's a 21"..

I couldnt tell because that high quality, high resolution digital camera was making it difficult to see.

You know, they've made new digital cameras since 1996.

JFPdude · 03-07-2003, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

so are we talking for HOSTING right?

Actually no we are talking everyday use.

KDE, Star Office, Gimp, and you name it ... Freebsd does a much better job handling the math processes and multi processing going on in large spread sheets and such.

But since you mention hosting yes it rocks there too.

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by mrthumbs

Is that your wallet on the desk or did Jerry Seinfeld lose his "Man's Carry All"?

We got a real fancy lad here folks.

goBigtime · 03-07-2003, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

Thats a lovely 15" monitor.

Tell me, did your hugely successful company buy that for you OR did you find it while dumpster diving?

What... dumpster diving isn't l33t anymore? =/

goBigtime · 03-07-2003, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

I couldnt tell because that high quality, high resolution digital camera was making it difficult to see.

You know, they've made new digital cameras since 1996.

And I think it's a webcam.

p00p · 03-07-2003, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

I'm not sure I ever asked that question...but like other small minded people you just made assumptions.

I was asking one user of one operating system his opinions about the benefits of one operating system over another.

If you would like me to spell this out in Macaroni Pasta Letters I can have my attorney do it for you. I dont have the time to waste it on inconseqeuential stalkers.

No worries, newbie, I am not stalking you at all. If you are Canadian, I should remind you we don't have attorney's here, we have lawyers, both of which I KNOW you can't afford. Now go read Plesk for Dummies.

MrPopup · 03-07-2003, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by p00p

No worries, newbie, I am not stalking you at all. If you are Canadian, I should remind you we don't have attorney's here, we have lawyers, both of which I KNOW you can't afford. Now go read Plesk for Dummies.

aww somebody got mad. did poopy get poop in his underpants?

The very first sign of someone who is NOT A PLAYER is someone who brags about their wealth. Everybody knows that you fucking clown.

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MrPopup Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: on the internet Posts: 3,783	What is stopping you from switching to Linux COMPLETELY? Or any other desktop operating system other than windows for that matter.... Every time i do a new system format and cleaning I ponder whether or not to start fresh with Red Hat Linux. I usually things start out well but there is always some tiny little blip (like the fact i can never get Mozilla to process plugins properly no matter how much I follow instructions...) Eventually I revert back to Windows for a few tasks and whamo...back to square 1. Anyone else? How do you finally let go of the Microsoft tittie? __________________ <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="1" bgcolor="#008000"><tr><td><font size=3>Gone</font></td></tr></table>

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