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Old 03-07-2003, 04:01 AM   #1
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Liberation of Iraq Bet - When will it start?

I don't mean to be sadistic in bringing this up, but the United States is going to go to war with Iraq, soon. Being realistic, this is inevitable (unless by some chance he leaves the country randomly, or throws every weapon he has out and destroys them within the next few days).

With that being said, lets do some "just for shits and giggles" predictions. What's your prediction for our first major strike publically covered by the press? "At so and so time, an attack was made on Baghdad" type thing on the news. When will that first press conference come? Base everything on GMT.

Don't know if anybody here knows this, but US military strategy involves attacking when the moon is producing the lease light; giving us more of an advantage because we have far more superior night vision technology.

My prediction is that it will occur at about 23:00 GMT (18:00 EST, 02:00 Iraqi time) on the 13th in the US / Greenwich (2 AM on the 14th) of March.
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Old 03-07-2003, 04:05 AM   #2
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This time next year if they keep stalling
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I think we should stretch it out as long as possible. You know, to distract everyone from the real issues that plague our country.
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Anyone want to bet on the number of Canadian troops the US manages to kill in friendly fire incidents this time?
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Liberation of Iraq? Interesting choice of words.

You make it sound as if the USA is doing something honourable instead of making a dirty little grab for power in the middle-east.

You reap what you sow. September 11? You aint seen nothing yet, baby!
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Old 03-07-2003, 04:33 AM   #6
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Anyone want to bet on the number of Canadian troops the US manages to kill in friendly fire incidents this time?
heheh damn.. I wonder how many US troops will die.. out of the 300k there how many you think will be urban fighting and how many are support, logistics and desert warfare? it's so going to be more than the couple of hundred last time... we'll probably lose a couple out of our 3000.
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Old 03-07-2003, 04:42 AM   #7
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Liberation of Iraq? Interesting choice of words.

You make it sound as if the USA is doing something honourable instead of making a dirty little grab for power in the middle-east.

You reap what you sow. September 11? You aint seen nothing yet, baby!
Congratulations on being a plague on society. I'm glad you're in a country other than the US, we don't need your filth here.

Yes, the liberation of Iraq. We're liberating the Iraqi people from their militant dictator - doesn't get much more simple than that.
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Old 03-07-2003, 04:51 AM   #8
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Congratulations on being a plague on society. I'm glad you're in a country other than the US, we don't need your filth here.

Yes, the liberation of Iraq. We're liberating the Iraqi people from their militant dictator - doesn't get much more simple than that.
Bullshit. Like I said, you will reap what you sow.

Karma's a bitch.
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Old 03-07-2003, 04:57 AM   #9
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heheh damn.. I wonder how many US troops will die.. out of the 300k there how many you think will be urban fighting and how many are support, logistics and desert warfare? it's so going to be more than the couple of hundred last time... we'll probably lose a couple out of our 3000.
From infoplease.com - 532,000 U.S. forces served in Operation Desert Storm. There were a total of 148 U.S. battle deaths during the Gulf War, 145 nonbattle deaths, and 467 wounded in action.

Work the numbers and you get a 0.00563% rate of death. 0.00279 rate of death for battle deaths, and 0.002735 rate of death for non-battle deaths.

I'd expect to see a bit higher death rate than the Gulf, but certainly nothing as terribly managed as Vietnam. Before we were cleaning them out of Kuwait in open fields. This time we'll be sending soldiers directly into cities where Iraqi soldiers will be hiding.

Here are some numbers from past wars:<blockquote>American Revolution (1775?1783)
Total servicemembers 217,000
Battle deaths 4,435

War of 1812 (1812?1815)
Total servicemembers 286,730
Battle deaths 2,260

Indian Wars (approx. 1817?1898)
Total servicemembers 106,000
Battle deaths 1,000

Mexican War (1846?1848)
Total servicemembers 78,718
Battle deaths 1,733
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 11,550
Nonmortal woundings 4,152

Civil War (1861?1865)
Total servicemembers (Union) 2,213,363
Battle deaths (Union) 140,414
Other deaths in service (nontheater) (Union) 224,097
Nonmortal woundings (Union) 281,881
Total servicemembers (Conf.) 1,050,000
Battle deaths (Conf.) 74,524
Other deaths in service (nontheater) (Conf.) 59,2972
Nonmortal woundings (Conf.) unknown

Spanish-American War (1898?1902)
Total servicemembers 306,760
Battle deaths 385
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 2,061
Nonmortal woundings 1,662

World War I (1917?1918)
Total servicemembers 4,734,991
Battle deaths 53,402
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 63,114
Nonmortal woundings 204,002
Living veterans (102)3 2,212

World War II (1940?1945)
Total servicemembers 16,112,566
Battle deaths 291,557
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 113,842
Nonmortal woundings 671,846
Living veterans (80)3 5,032,591

Korean War (1950?1953)
Total servicemembers 5,720,000
Battle deaths 33,686
Other deaths in service (theater) 2,830
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 17,730
Nonmortal woundings 103,284
Living veterans (69)3 2,976,446

Vietnam War (1964?1975)
Total servicemembers 9,200,000
Deployed to Southeast Asia 3,100,000
Battle deaths 47,410
Other deaths in service (theater) 10,788
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 32,000
Nonmortal woundings 153,303
Living veterans (55)3 7,495,029

Gulf War (1990?1991)
Total servicemembers 2,322,332
Deployed to Gulf 1,136,658
Battle deaths 148
Other deaths in service (theater) 235
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 914
Nonmortal woundings 467
Living veterans (35)3 1,753,530

America's Wars Total
Military service during war 42,348,460
Battle deaths 650,954
Other deaths in service (theater) 13,853
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 229,661
Nonmortal woundings 1,431,290
Living war veterans 18,865,926
Living veterans 25,038,459</blockquote>The rate of death for all American-involved battles is 0.01537%. That's not too bad of a percent when you look at what all has been accomplished thoughout American history.
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Bullshit. Like I said, you will reap what you sow.

Karma's a bitch.
No, you are a plague on society and a complete moron. I really don't see how you maintain your views even after being presented with all of the facts.

1) US doens't attack, receives numerous terror attacks costing many times more than what a war would cost (both death wise, and money wise).

2) US attacks and eliminates / reduces the likelihood of a terror attack on its soil

Pretty clear cut, eh? And the entire "you will reap what you sow" thing is bullshit, and you know it. You are in no position (and obviously...have lack of intelligence and/or knowledge) to determine what kind of retaliation will occur from anybody. You're just the typical Anti-America conspiracist that will go on ranting and raving about whatever you can find.
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No, you are a plague on society and a complete moron. I really don't see how you maintain your views even after being presented with all of the facts.

1) US doens't attack, receives numerous terror attacks costing many times more than what a war would cost (both death wise, and money wise).

2) US attacks and eliminates / reduces the likelihood of a terror attack on its soil

Pretty clear cut, eh? And the entire "you will reap what you sow" thing is bullshit, and you know it. You are in no position (and obviously...have lack of intelligence and/or knowledge) to determine what kind of retaliation will occur from anybody. You're just the typical Anti-America conspiracist that will go on ranting and raving about whatever you can find.
Ha... and you call me a moron. Associating Iraq with September 11 is one of George Bush's great little tricks. It's easy when the American public is clearly so gullible. If you repeat it enough, they will believe it. Can you say: "Baaaaaaaa"

Like I said, karma's a bitch... lets watch and see. I've got my popcorn ready to go.
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Im from NZ and "Baaaaa" is my second language!

Anyway..... JoeSixpack, you are an asshole

Hope that popcorn will last you a while, you might need it.....

Austrailia is rated ony slightly lower than the US on the "muslim world's most hated countries" list
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Im from NZ and "Baaaaa" is my second language!

Anyway..... JoeSixpack, you are an asshole

Hope that popcorn will last you a while, you might need it.....

Austrailia is rated ony slightly lower than the US on the "muslim world's most hated countries" list
Shut up you inbred kiwi sheep fucker!
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Old 03-07-2003, 05:23 AM   #14
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" Yes, the liberation of Iraq. We're liberating the Iraqi people from their militant dictator - doesn't get much more simple than that."

25 tons of finest concentrated bullshit reside in this head, with other words ... I don´t share your opinion here.
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Old 03-07-2003, 05:26 AM   #15
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I recently read an article saying that when the US military conducts war games in an urban environment the death toll is about 10%. The Iraqis know the streets of Baghdad intimately and all that high-tech shit (other than night vision) isn't much use when you're fighting house-to-house. So if the Iraqis decide to put up a credible fight it WILL get messy!
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Transtasman rivally makes this "muslim v. the rest of the world" look soft.

"kiwi sheep fucker!"

I wouldnt fuck an Australian sheep..... too many STDs!

Just like Australian women
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Old 03-07-2003, 05:36 AM   #17
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Austrailia is rated ony slightly lower than the US on the "muslim world's most hated countries" list
Yep we're now #4 on Al Qaeda's hate list:

1) USA
2) Israel
3) UK
4) Australia

We achieved this impressive ranking because our Priminiature is the World's second most vocal supporter of George W's crusade.
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New Zealand...

A land where men are men and sheep are frightened!
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Guys, don't call Joe Sixpack a moron or an asshole.

His statements are so incredibly offensive and always in our faces, he can't seriously mean them.

I think he's probably a really nice guy just stricken with GFYAWD (GFY Attention Whore Disease).

Luv Ya Joe! You do know how to liven up the action on posts that's for sure!!
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New Zealand...

A land where men are men and sheep are frightened!
Australia.....

The land where everyone is frightened.

Snakes, spiders, deadly jellyfish, sharks......

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Australia.....

The land where everyone is frightened.

Snakes, spiders, deadly jellyfish, sharks......
What about Steve Irwin?

He's not frightened!
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Yep we're now #4 on Al Qaeda's hate list:

1) USA
2) Israel
3) UK
4) Australia

We achieved this impressive ranking because our Priminiature is the World's second most vocal supporter of George W's crusade.
The funny thing is why would anyone want to bomb Australia when you can bomb Israel, The USA or England? All of them are much better value for money as targets....

I doubt anyone's going to fly a hijacked jet into the Big Pineapple!

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"... because our Priminiature is the World's second most vocal supporter of George W's crusade."

... and he is a one man army killermachine too, he will take iraq by storm !!
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Australia.....

The land where everyone is frightened.

Snakes, spiders, deadly jellyfish, sharks......
Only you kiwi poofs are scared of the wildlife here!

Now go back to fucking your sheep, boy!
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... or into the big lobster !!

<img src="http://www.alphalink.com.au/~richardb/lobsterA.jpg">
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"... because our Priminiature is the World's second most vocal supporter of George W's crusade."

... and he is a one man army killermachine too, he will take iraq by storm !!
Yep, John Napoleon Howard...

The liberator of Iraq!
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Or the BIG BANANA!

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Or even the BIG MERINO!

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... don´t forget to mention the big kangaroo

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Holy Shit Mr Howard.... terrorists have just hijacked a 767 and they're headed for... oh my god... the BIG MERINO!
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And how could I forget the BIG GUITAR!



God Bless this nation!
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stop it.... thats just mean.....

All Australian's hope that one day they can be: "Oz/Americans"

Its like some sort of sport..... NZ will always be independent!!
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Australia.....

The land where everyone is frightened.

Snakes, spiders, deadly jellyfish, sharks......
we found redbacks here yesterday.
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we found redbacks here yesterday.
Yep, some mad Ozzy wanker instroduced them.........
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stop it.... thats just mean.....

All Australian's hope that one day they can be: "Oz/Americans"

Its like some sort of sport..... NZ will always be independent!!
I thought we instructed all Kiwi sheep fuckers to leave this thread?

Independent? You fuckers don't even have an Army do you? And a woman Prime Minister.... why would any world leader call her...? for makeup tips?
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No BIG BARRAMUNDI in New Zealand is there!

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I thought we instructed all Kiwi sheep fuckers to leave this thread?

Independent? You fuckers don't even have an Army do you? And a woman Prime Minister.... why would any world leader call her...? for makeup tips?
She would be an improvment GBush's....

errrr.... independant?.... Australia

I think you, "Joe sixpack" have been invited to leave by everybody!!

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And then there's the BIG KOALA!

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She would be an improvment GBush's....

errrr.... independant?.... Australia

I think you "Joe sixpack" has been invited to leave by everybody!!
Too bad, bitch! I own this thread now!

So you can stick this BIG MARLIN up your kiwi arse!

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A flock of Kiwis
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the big koala is my personal favourite ... what was the topic of this thread again ?
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the big koala is my personal favourite ... what was the topic of this thread again ?
Does anyone actually care?
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Do me a favor. Remember Maggie Thatcher? She had more balls than anyone in her cabinet. Some world leaders were terrified of her.
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that is embarrassing. no one wanted it. you can take "big" tours now.. from big thing to stupid big thing..

btw the big koala looks like it's constipated and made of shit.
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" She had more balls than anyone in her cabinet."

... as a matter of the fakt she HAD balls !!
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A flock of Kiwis
Yep... thats NZ....

Australia is a big patch of worthless tussock grass at the moment...

Even the Sheep cant get a shag!
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Do me a favor. Remember Maggie Thatcher? She had more balls than anyone in her cabinet. Some world leaders were terrified of her.
Margaret Thatcher was a tranny!

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Old 03-07-2003, 06:26 AM   #49
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Do me a favor. Remember Maggie Thatcher? She had more balls than anyone in her cabinet. Some world leaders were terrified of her.


Who said Helen Clark doesn't have balls?
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Old 03-07-2003, 06:27 AM   #50
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Who said Helen Clark doesn't have balls?
Holy shit... she is ugly. No wonder Kiwi males have to fuck sheep!

Jesus... if I had to choose between her and a submissive, well-behaved sheep, I know who I'd choose!
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