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sandman! 04-07-2014 01:48 PM

unless you live on that island whats the big deal ?

Dvae 04-07-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20040760)
Disturbing Global Warming news: Cateret Atoll to be under water by 2015


According to this turd you Mark are not qualified to make the decision whether global warming is real or not and by his own definition neither is he. Where do you find this stupid BS?

L-Pink 04-07-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20041207)
Where did you find river access... Every lake I've visited you had to pay a fee to enter a park before you could get any water access. I just left Caynon Lake area three days ago and every boat ramp was closed and all the Army Core of engineers parks charged entry fees and even their boat ramps were closed due to the low water.

I stayed in San Marcos two days ago but didn't find any river access so I came up to Austin yesterday and I'm at Lake Travis, but you have to pay $10 for the joy of going to a boat ramp that is dried up.

I have a Folbot, folding kayak and I haven't used it since I left New Orleans. I understand the low water is out of their control, but I've never visited a state that had so little public water access that someone didn't have their hand out wanting money for you to use. I don't mind paying here and there for a nice park, but fuck even lakes with no staff and litter all over the place they expected you to buy a $5 per peron permit to access the lake.

In San Marcos we paid to go down a river and one way transportation. I have no idea of the name. While in Austin we would go to Hippie Hollow, nude lake area. It use to be free

L-Pink 04-07-2014 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20041125)
HAve you noticed how fucking big san antonio is now? I think it's the 2nd biggest city in texas these days.

I didn't do well financially there, strange market. However a friends store in Austin, same franchise, was one of the busiest in the nation.

crockett 04-07-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20041315)
In San Marcos we paid to go down a river and one way transportation. I have no idea of the name. While in Austin we would go to Hippie Hollow, nude lake area. It use to be free

Heh, yea I went to hippie hollow once in a boat when I was like 15. The people we were visiting had a boat, so the dad took me and his son out on it but didn't mention anything about a nude beach.. We were just trolling along and titties!

On side note, after driving around a bit today and exploring, I found a few access points on the river that I can get my kayak in, so maybe the next few days I can have some fun.

12clicks 04-07-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 20041190)
Yes, take ONE little piece of info to make your stance.

Never-mind the fact that ice sheets cycle with shrinkage and expansion. They shrink and expand. Its natural, but the rate of shrinkage is faster than the rate of growth now.

Global warming is real. Yes, some of it is natural but the damage done in just the past 40 years is something that would normally take 100's of years (if it was all natural).

I see it myself in my own community. I never seen the types of heat and extreme precipitation as a kid that I see now. For climate change to be this noticeable at my middle-age, it's quite drastic.

Those who deny it being a fact are cowards to what is coming. This planet is about to go through major man-caused changes and you will all need to stop living so wastefully if generations after us are to have anything left.

The earth will only get so hot and the atmosphere only so dense in vapor before it all comes back to us. Major snowfalls, major rainstorms. etc. Eventually it will balance out but with the use of fuels and removing more and more of the forestation.. it will take 100's of years to recover..

:1orglaugh
Christ, the stupid truly have been gulled by the politicians.
In my own community, it was both much colder AND much hotter 40 years ago. There is NO evidence of any sort of warming, that's why the people manipulating your small brain are now calling it climate change.

brassmonkey 04-07-2014 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 20041304)
unless you live on that island whats the big deal ?

the writers of the story bought them :helpme :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

onwebcam 04-07-2014 05:10 PM

Did Al Gore buy that island with all of his carbon credit profits and why there is such a concern?

2MuchMark 04-07-2014 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20041309)
According to this turd you Mark are not qualified to make the decision whether global warming is real or not and by his own definition neither is he. Where do you find this stupid BS?

Of course I am not qualified to say for a fact that Global Warming is real. I'm not a scientist. However, scientists, Climatologists, Nasa, NOAA, all say Global warming is a fact, since I know for a fact they are all much smarter than me, I am inclined to take their word for it.

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20041529)
:1orglaugh
In my own community, it was both much colder AND much hotter 40 years ago. There is NO evidence of any sort of warming, that's why the people manipulating your small brain are now calling it climate change.

Your "own community" is "weather". "Weather" is local, while "Climate" is global. Or put another way, the "mean temperature" or "average". What you, I and everyone else sees with our own eyes and weather forecasts are local, small pieces. The average temperature, the mean temperature of the entire earth, is rising.

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 20041536)
Did Al Gore buy that island with all of his carbon credit profits and why there is such a concern?

No but he did his best to warn everyone. Too bad not enough people listened to him. Too bad Dubya's pals had to steal the election from him.

12clicks 04-08-2014 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20041575)

Your "own community" is "weather". "Weather" is local, while "Climate" is global. Or put another way, the "mean temperature" or "average". What you, I and everyone else sees with our own eyes and weather forecasts are local, small pieces. The average temperature, the mean temperature of the entire earth, is rising.

I know, douche bag. I was replying in kind to one of your idiot brethren.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/...rature-record/

I'm sure you won't read the facts in the article but thats the difference between someone who knows and someone who believes. :thumbsup

PR_Glen 04-08-2014 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20040912)
Just as the Hawaiian islands are rising out of the water at one end and sinking at the other.... Plate tectonics is not "global warming".

not to mention 1.5m above sea level for an island in the pacific is one storm away from being washed away regardless. Such a non issue its not even funny.


I wonder if crocket's van floats...

sperbonzo 04-08-2014 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20041575)


No but he did his best to warn everyone. Too bad not enough people listened to him. Too bad Dubya's pals had to steal the election from him.


Too bad for the people that he scammed almost a BILLION dollars off of, with G.I.M. and his Chicago Carbon Credit exchange scam, and living with one of the largest "carbon footprints" on the planet.... all while lecturing the rest of us peasants about how WE all have to change....






.:mad:




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EddyTheDog 04-08-2014 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20041911)
not to mention 1.5m above sea level for an island in the pacific is one storm away from being washed away regardless. Such a non issue its not even funny.


I wonder if crocket's van floats...

Yet people have lived on them for thousands of years - Go figure...

Grapesoda 04-08-2014 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20040854)
If Texas goes under I am pretty sure the gays would like to claim responsibility for it:upsidedow...

so it's okay for gays to wish 100's of thousands of people dead but if some one disagrees with homosexuality they should be fired from the job... I get that right?

TheSquealer 04-08-2014 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20040984)
Venice has been all over the news here because it is sinking under the waves - They are building a multi billion dollar protection system to try and save it...

Maybe you think Venice is a brand new town? It's been sinking into soft ground for centuries and the efforts to stop it have been going on forever. My point was that it's basically at sea level. Every time I've been to San Marcos square, the water was flush with the square. It has nothing to do with global warming.

If any fucking retard thinks a small coral reef that briefly broke the surface is going to disappear on months due to global warming.... then they need their heads examined as there are 1000 more places at risk worth talking about facing the same "threat"

Mutt 04-08-2014 06:51 AM

Well this is the Internet so no surprise people with zero education in any of the pertinent earth sciences have such strong opinions. :1orglaugh

I don't know shit about climate change and its' causes BUT I do have a lot of respect for science and those who dedicate their lives to it. The VAST majority of the world's foremost scientists are of the opinion based on scientific data that global warming is real and it's largely a man made phenomena. Scientists have big egos, they love to try to prove the other nerds wrong. That there is almost unanimity on the issue amongst them leads me to believe they are right. And no I don't believe the 'lefties' have or even could buy off that many institutions and scientists.

Just because the planet has gone through climate change before naturally doesn't make man made global warming 'ok', that's like telling your kids to hit the tanning salon every day risking getting cancer at 40 because cancer is a natural disease process that will get you at 80 anyway.

I think nuclear war and solar flares and/or EMP taking down the power grid are bigger worries than climate change in ours, our children and grandchildrens' lifetimes.

EddyTheDog 04-08-2014 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20041923)
so it's okay for gays to wish 100's of thousands of people dead but if some one disagrees with homosexuality they should be fired from the job... I get that right?

I hope you are kidding - I know I was...

scottybuzz 04-08-2014 07:04 AM

global warming = climate change = adapt or die

In fact I hope Humans can't adapt and we all die.

12clicks 04-08-2014 07:13 AM

oh look, a scientific report from a group of scientists who DON'T make a living from global warming, errr, climate change:
http://heartland.org/media-library/p...licymakers.pdf

12clicks 04-08-2014 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20041970)
The VAST majority of the world's foremost scientists are of the opinion based on scientific data that global warming is real and it's largely a man made phenomena.

that should read "The VAST majority of the world's scientists who make their living off of the climate change hysteria are of the opinion based on manipulated scientific data that global warming is real and it's largely a man made phenomena."

SuckOnThis 04-08-2014 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20041994)
oh look, a scientific report from a group of scientists who DON'T make a living from global warming, errr, climate change:
http://heartland.org/media-library/p...licymakers.pdf


The Heartland Institute
Background

The Heartland Institute is a Chicago-based free market think tank and 501(c)(3) charity that has been at the forefront of denying the scientific evidence for man-made climate change. The Heartland Institute has received at least $676,500 from ExxonMobil since 1998 but no longer discloses its funding sources.

http://phys.org/news/2013-09-adversa...doscience.html

EddyTheDog 04-08-2014 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20042019)
The Heartland Institute
Background

The Heartland Institute is a Chicago-based free market think tank and 501(c)(3) charity that has been at the forefront of denying the scientific evidence for man-made climate change. The Heartland Institute has received at least $676,500 from ExxonMobil since 1998 but no longer discloses its funding sources.

http://phys.org/news/2013-09-adversa...doscience.html

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

EonBlue 04-08-2014 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20041970)
I don't know shit about climate change and its' causes BUT I do have a lot of respect for science and those who dedicate their lives to it. The VAST majority of the world's foremost scientists are of the opinion based on scientific data that global warming is real and it's largely a man made phenomena.

There are many very dedicated scientists that disagree that global warming is largely a man-made phenomena. There are also many that disagree that the warming will be catastrophic. If you respect science then you should respect them as well. The debate really isn't "settled" as you so often hear in the media and from politicians. The whole "vast majority" thing is just a myth. Society is falling into a very dangerous cycle of group-think and the inevitable end result of that will by tyranny and hard times.

Keep in mind that all of the warm-mongering is based on computer models that have been proven faulty and have even failed to correctly predict the climate of the better part of the last two decades.

You even have scientists publishing papers explaining why it is ok to exaggerate claims and manipulate information to achieve their goals:

http://ajae.oxfordjournals.org/conte...au001.abstract

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It appears that news media and some pro-environmental organizations have the tendency to accentuate or even exaggerate the damage caused by climate change. This article provides a rationale for this tendency by using a modified International Environmental Agreement (IEA) model with asymmetric information. We find that the information manipulation has an instrumental value, as it ex post induces more countries to participate in an IEA, which will eventually enhance global welfare.

L-Pink 04-08-2014 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20041917)
Too bad for the people that he scammed almost a BILLION dollars off of, with G.I.M. and his Chicago Carbon Credit exchange scam, and living with one of the largest "carbon footprints" on the planet.... all while lecturing the rest of us peasants about how WE all have to change....

The amount of electricity consumed in his personal home was hilariously absurd. What a 2-faced douch-bag he is.


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sperbonzo 04-08-2014 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20042029)
There are many very dedicated scientists that disagree that global warming is largely a man-made phenomena. There are also many that disagree that the warming will be catastrophic. If you respect science then you should respect them as well. The debate really isn't "settled" as you so often hear in the media and from politicians. The whole "vast majority" thing is just a myth. Society is falling into a very dangerous cycle of group-think and the inevitable end result of that will by tyranny and hard times.

Keep in mind that all of the warm-mongering is based on computer models that have been proven faulty and have even failed to correctly predict the climate of the better part of the last two decades.

You even have scientists publishing papers explaining why it is ok to exaggerate claims and manipulate information to achieve their goals:

http://ajae.oxfordjournals.org/conte...au001.abstract

There have been so many incidents of global warming employees fudging the data, that it's just getting ridiculous at this point, so they may as well just say what this article says.... basically that, YES, they fudge the data, but it's for a good cause.


:Oh crap



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12clicks 04-08-2014 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20042019)
The Heartland Institute
Background

The Heartland Institute is a Chicago-based free market think tank and 501(c)(3) charity that has been at the forefront of denying the scientific evidence for man-made climate change. The Heartland Institute has received at least $676,500 from ExxonMobil since 1998 but no longer discloses its funding sources.

http://phys.org/news/2013-09-adversa...doscience.html

shocker! a group sucking at the teat of "climate change" hysteria denouncing a group that's debunked their gravy train.:1orglaugh

but you go on believing Al Gore and his ilk. it makes you look intelligent amongst your friends. but not anyone of intelligence.:thumbsup
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/fiv...he-north-pole/
Five Years Ago Al Gore Predicted There Would Be No Ice At The North Pole
"""How long are we going to get believing the predictions of people who are proven to be wrong, over and over again?

This would be funny, except that predictions of doom and gloom from the ?settled science? community are the basis for reams of expensive and burdensome laws and regulations intended to address climate change."""

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...-refugees-2010

"""To give you an idea of the kind of hysterical predictions the global warming crowd have made in recent years, the United Nations in 2005 actually forecast that by the end of the previous decade, there would be 50 million environmental refugees around the world as a result of climate change."""

http://www.dailytech.com/After+Missi...ticle33457.htm

"""It appears runaway warming predictions may have been fantasy"""
"""Doomsday Scenarios Flop"""


but our least intelligent will continue to believe the hype that has no basis in fact but has made liberals and scientists rich.:1orglaugh

12clicks 04-08-2014 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20042029)
There are many very dedicated scientists that disagree that global warming is largely a man-made phenomena. There are also many that disagree that the warming will be catastrophic. If you respect science then you should respect them as well. The debate really isn't "settled" as you so often hear in the media and from politicians. The whole "vast majority" thing is just a myth. Society is falling into a very dangerous cycle of group-think and the inevitable end result of that will by tyranny and hard times.

Keep in mind that all of the warm-mongering is based on computer models that have been proven faulty and have even failed to correctly predict the climate of the better part of the last two decades.

You even have scientists publishing papers explaining why it is ok to exaggerate claims and manipulate information to achieve their goals:

http://ajae.oxfordjournals.org/conte...au001.abstract

well said.

_Richard_ 04-08-2014 08:31 AM

for a group of people so adamantly against global warming

there sure seems to be a lot of time spent denying it

12clicks 04-08-2014 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20042117)
for a group of people so adamantly against global warming

there sure seems to be a lot of time spent denying it

there's a difference between denying something thats happening and pointing out something that isn't happening. I suggest you learn the difference, snapper head. :winkwink:

_Richard_ 04-08-2014 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20042121)
there's a difference between denying something thats happening and pointing out something that isn't happening. I suggest you learn the difference, snapper head. :winkwink:

see you in the next global warming thread

12clicks 04-08-2014 08:35 AM

you gotta laugh at people who imagine that EVERY weather event we've experienced in the last 40 years hasn't happened before then. The belief in this hysteria is just stunning.

12clicks 04-08-2014 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20042124)
see you in the next global warming thread

no, lets just revisit this one in december and see if the island, like the polar cap is still there. At some point, at least ONE of your side's predictions needs to come true for you to continue your BELIEF in global warming, doesn't it?

romeo22 04-08-2014 08:38 AM

they might be in real trouble for sure if that's true!

_Richard_ 04-08-2014 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20042129)
no, lets just revisit this one in december and see if the island, like the polar cap is still there. At some point, at least ONE of your side's predictions needs to come true for you to continue your BELIEF in global warming, doesn't it?

my side? your 'side' seems to believe that human industries has no impact on the enviroment

do you believe this is true?

Vendzilla 04-08-2014 08:46 AM

All I can say is that Al Gore bought beach front property a couple years ago.

Yeah he believes!

Mutt 04-08-2014 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20042029)
There are many very dedicated scientists that disagree that global warming is largely a man-made phenomena. There are also many that disagree that the warming will be catastrophic. If you respect science then you should respect them as well. The debate really isn't "settled" as you so often hear in the media and from politicians. The whole "vast majority" thing is just a myth. Society is falling into a very dangerous cycle of group-think and the inevitable end result of that will by tyranny and hard times.

97% of scientists believe in man made global warming. 'Tyranny' is a word used by kooks. There are hysterics and demagogues on the extreme ends of both the political left and right.

I read the Heartland Institute's paper and then the criticism of it, perhaps there are some valid points to it but it appears they have a strong bias themselves and their credentials overall are lesser.

In the end what's the downside if we cut carbon emissions - who here owns an oil company?

Vendzilla 04-08-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20042195)
97% of scientists believe in man made global warming. 'Tyranny' is a word used by kooks. There are hysterics and demagogues on the extreme ends of both the political left and right.

I read the Heartland Institute's paper and then the criticism of it, perhaps there are some valid points to it but it appears they have a strong bias themselves and their credentials overall are lesser.

In the end what's the downside if we cut carbon emissions - who here owns an oil company?

Here's about the guy that started a lot of it, he now says he was wrong about global warming
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/e...entists-defect

_Richard_ 04-08-2014 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20042205)
Here's about the guy that started a lot of it, he now says he was wrong about global warming
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/e...entists-defect

odd, there hasn't been any dispute on the Mars warming cycle

sperbonzo 04-08-2014 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20042195)
In the end what's the downside if we cut carbon emissions - who here owns an oil company?

There are plenty of problems with money being taken out of economies by force and then used to prop up political friends of governments for things that don't benefit people. There are plenty of problems with the foundation of a world government designed to redistribute wealth and control every aspect of our lives. There are plenty of problems with creating a situation that adds huge burdens to all ready struggling economies. All of these results are originating from the ACC movement.

Here is some interesting reading...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybel...vestment-hype/



.:2 cents:

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Mutt 04-08-2014 09:28 AM

I will read any opinion, the whole issue doesn't mean much to me since I don't think a couple of degrees of warming is going to be catastrophic, I don't live on an atoll two feet above sea level.


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