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_Richard_ 04-08-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 20042363)
last I checked we pay back what every investor agreed to... they give us $$$, we pay them back interest... exactly what each party agreed to...

where do you see a problem?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100382718

Germany Wants Its Gold Back?Should You Worry?

wink. wink.

woj 04-08-2014 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20042416)
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100382718

Germany Wants Its Gold Back—Should You Worry?

wink. wink.

what does that have to do with anything? especially the fact that some countries do not want to pay back the debt they agreed to and then try to vilify the lender like somehow it's their fault?

Antonio 04-08-2014 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 20042345)
Good to hear. So, when will the US pay off its $17 trillion debt??

Yup, living in the US must be terrible, that's why there are millions of Americans moving to Russia every month

_Richard_ 04-08-2014 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 20042419)
what does that have to do with anything? especially the fact that some countries do not want to pay back the debt they agreed to and then try to vilify the lender like somehow it's their fault?

are you referring to the US again?

you said you paid back every investor.. Germany would like its gold

WDF 04-08-2014 12:51 PM

I am sure the US will pay back all it's debts as soon as all those countries that owe the US a debt from WW2 cough up what they owe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

The comrades would be speaking German for the last 70 years if the only had their own resources to fight them.

WDF 04-08-2014 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20042462)
are you referring to the US again?

you said you paid back every investor.. Germany would like its gold


You live in the German Republic of Canada now?

femdomdestiny 04-09-2014 02:31 AM

Someone is trying to ignite things. Shit is going to start soon, smart people should get out as soon as possible...

The memorial to Holocaust victims has been vandalized in Odessa, southern Ukraine. The perpetrators drew Nazi symbols-swastika and wolf-hook. While protesters in Kiev are demanding the arrest of those who wear St. George?s ribbons, symbol of WWII heroes.

http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/24/eb/d0/00/2.si.jpg

Alex911 04-09-2014 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20042060)
thread sucks without boobs:winkwink:

http://s4.pikabu.ru/post_img/2014/03...1007612058.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

femdomdestiny 04-09-2014 02:52 AM

Reuters | 09 04 In 2014.

Russia and China are close to the signing of the gas, said today in Beijing, deputy chairman of the Russian government Arkady Dvorkovich.

He explained to reporters that the parties are working on a contract to be signed in May. The only question that remains unresolved is the base price, said Dvorkovich.

According to him, the consultations are conducted daily. To this end, the management of Gazprom will be the day to talk with Chinese partners on the terms of the contract.

Dvorkovich expressed hope that the agreement will be signed in May, and it should come into force by the end of the year.

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Akradij Dvorkovich participated in a meeting of the Co-Chairs Russian-Chinese Intergovernmental Commission for Energy.

klinton 04-09-2014 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20042440)
Yup, living in the US must be terrible, that's why there are millions of Americans moving to Russia every month

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup:winkwink:

evy97 04-09-2014 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 20042363)
last I checked we pay back what every investor agreed to... they give us $$$, we pay them back interest... exactly what each party agreed to...

where do you see a problem?

The perfect Ponzi scheme where the government is paying off old debt by issuing new debt.

and you do not see the problem? :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20042440)
Yup, living in the US must be terrible, that's why there are millions of Americans moving to Russia every month

Dude, all Ponzi schemes collapse. The only question is when.
The Fed can't print money forever. Their days are numbered.

Tootourist2014 04-09-2014 06:07 AM

I think Putin should sign some paper to take back all the
Russian in this thread. mainly those who ran to the states.
go back there, so you wont have freedom of speech to
bitch so much not in English letters.

just a punk 04-09-2014 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tootourist2014 (Post 20043247)
I think Putin should sign some paper to take back all the
Russian in this thread. mainly those who ran to the states.
go back there, so you wont have freedom of speech to
bitch so much not in English letters.

http://blogs.westword.com/showandtel...tory%20bro.jpg

TheSquealer 04-09-2014 06:46 AM

Oops.

MOSCOW (Reuters) - A surge in capital outflows from Russia underscores how international tensions over Ukraine are adding to the woes of Russia's already struggling economy.

Russia's central bank has published balance of payments data that showed an estimated $63.7 billion in net capital outflow in the first three months of this year - as much as the $63 billion in outflows seen during the whole of 2013.

Sid70 04-09-2014 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20043293)

http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/p...ell-f6c2d5.jpg

woj 04-09-2014 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 20043202)
The perfect Ponzi scheme where the government is paying off old debt by issuing new debt.

and you do not see the problem? :1orglaugh

Dude, all Ponzi schemes collapse. The only question is when.
The Fed can't print money forever. Their days are numbered.

As long as the economy continues to grow, there is no problem... sure we borrow more, but our "income" and so our ability to pay it back grows too...

...and investors seem to agree, that's why the whole world gladly lends us money at ~2%... while countries like Russia for example have to pay closer to 10% for the same privilege... :2 cents:

just a punk 04-09-2014 11:26 PM

The US mercenary in Ukrainian "Sokol" police Uniform caught in Kharkov:



Fake or not? Your opinions?

femdomdestiny 04-10-2014 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20044443)
The US mercenary in Ukrainian "Sokol" police Uniform caught in Kharkov:



Fake or not? Your opinions?

No way to tell,and should be taken with reserve. There are so many faked things and scenarios that it is not important actually (for normal people that don't believe to medias easily). How I see it,only way that this can be relevant is that they show him on TV and prove his identity.

Even then, he is free person and he can do whatever he want regarding his personal beliefs(not related to US foreign policy).

We all know that secret services are doing all this mess. In a same way Maydan was organized by western services, Crimea overtake was done by Russians. Simple as that. Such big things can't be spontaneous and who believe in that probably have huge lack of life experience .

What bothers me more is that Ukrainians are sending some kind of army (what I saw are old transporters and very old tanks) to Donetsk. This can ignite war and Russian invasion. Current "government" (not elected but came by force and representing only one % of people) are bunch or naive and stupid guys. Their idiotic moves lead to Crimea being lost, and if they are listening same boss ( and they do), next will be loosing of more territories.

Savages, nazis and non educated bunch of people (it is crazy how Ukrainian parliament looks like and how primitive they act toward each other) simply can't lead good state policy, especially if they are between superpowers.

TheSquealer 04-10-2014 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20044443)
The US mercenary in Ukrainian "Sokol" police Uniform caught in Kharkov:



Fake or not? Your opinions?

First obvious question is "why think its real"? Just because a guy said in bad English "i'm a US Citizen"? An obvious clue that it is not real is that they made no attempt to take his mask off, stand him up and force him to talk and identify himself. Post his face online and he'll be identified in minutes. So it seems there was an interest in not positively identifying him which of course, makes zero sense in that situation and given the "outrage" they are all pretending to express. Also... he speaks Russian/Ukrainian to get a job like that... but answered in English? How convenient.

_Richard_ 04-10-2014 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20043083)
Someone is trying to ignite things. Shit is going to start soon, smart people should get out as soon as possible...

The memorial to Holocaust victims has been vandalized in Odessa, southern Ukraine. The perpetrators drew Nazi symbols-swastika and wolf-hook. While protesters in Kiev are demanding the arrest of those who wear St. George?s ribbons, symbol of WWII heroes.

http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/24/eb/d0/00/2.si.jpg

sigh.

8char

just a punk 04-10-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20044700)
First obvious question is "why think its real"?

Because there was a lot of reports from various sources that the new Ukrainian government uses Greystone mercenaries. And now this.

_Richard_ 04-10-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 20043330)

...and investors seem to agree, that's why the whole world gladly lends us money at ~2%... while countries like Russia for example have to pay closer to 10% for the same privilege... :2 cents:

here i thought it was cause we controlled 70% of the worlds weapons, and seemed to have no problem doing all the dirty work

just a punk 04-10-2014 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20044700)
Also... he speaks Russian/Ukrainian to get a job like that... but answered in English?

Watch this from 2:09: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xW-I0A3ZyO4 - why do Ukrainian rebels on Maydan speak English? I have no answer. Do you?

TheSquealer 04-10-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20044887)
Because there was a lot of reports from various sources that the new Ukrainian government uses Greystone mercenaries. And now this.

So again, if any of this was true... and their "outrage" was really that they caught a foreign mercenary there, the first obvious step would be to take his mask off... stand him up, question him and then show that video. Of course... that very obvious thing never happened and instead, people are left to speculate with little to zero evidence.

i've seen enough Russian propaganda in my life to know that nothing out of that region can be trusted or believed. All you can look at are the known facts. Guy being held down... everyone pretending to be upset saying nothing more than fuck you over and over again. Guy says "i'm a US citizen" and thats all... in spite of the obvious propaganda value of actually having caught a foreign mercenary there and the obvious first step of identifying him, interrogating him and putting a video out where it can be confirmed by all. Its not hard to teach anyone a few words and most people speak that much anyway. The guy didn't exactly sound like he had a Texan accent. It sounded like he had a foreign accent.

As it is, not a very convincing story.

No more convincing than any of the bullshit that Moscow was putting out when they started the second war with Chechnya. Not that I don't agree that Chechnya should be wiped off the map.... but they were so amateur with their contrived and fake news stories, it was painful to watch.

TheSquealer 04-10-2014 10:11 AM

It should also be pointed out that if it was a video where he said "i'm a Russian citizen" caught in Kharkov and it was being explained that he was Alpha Group or something else... you'd be arguing to the death that it was a lie.

TheSquealer 04-10-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20044896)
Watch this from 2:09: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xW-I0A3ZyO4 - why do Ukrainian rebels on Maydan speak English? I have no answer. Do you?

Uhmm... since it's not related at all to the other video or the discussion... why does it matter why a local is speaking broken English.

_Richard_ 04-10-2014 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20044896)
Watch this from 2:09: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xW-I0A3ZyO4 - why do Ukrainian rebels on Maydan speak English? I have no answer. Do you?

i thought almost everyone there spoke some form of English?

just a punk 04-10-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20045023)
Uhmm... since it's not related at all to the other video or the discussion... why does it matter why a local is speaking broken English.

Nevermind :winkwink:

just a punk 04-10-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20045027)
i thought almost everyone there spoke some form of English?

1) Of course not. Every Ukrainian speaks Russian, but not English.
2) Why Ukrainian people will call a medic using a language, most of them do not understand?

Just imagine yourself in such a situation. One of your friends got wounded and you are gonna call a medic (everything is happening in your country and nowhere else). Would you scream "Rifa'yyah!"? Please answer to this question.

_Richard_ 04-10-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20045044)
1) Of course not. Every Ukrainian speaks Russian, but not English.
2) Why Ukrainian people will call a medic using a language, most of them do not understand?

Just imagine yourself in such a situation. One of your friends got wounded and you are gonna call a medic (everything is happening in your country and nowhere else). Would you scream "Rifa'yyah!"? Please answer to this question.

depends on what language the medic spoke?

a police officer having a rudimentary grasp of english isn't very surprising.

furthermore, this seems a little staged

just a punk 04-10-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20045016)
i've seen enough Russian propaganda in my life to know that nothing out of that region can be trusted or believed

The one must be an idiot if he believes that Somalian, US or Chinese propaganda is somehow better than the Russian one. How old are you? :)

just a punk 04-10-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20045050)
depends on what language the medic spoke?

So you think it's ok if the medic on Canadian barricades speaks Somalian? But even is medic is an American, why he says "he's fuckin' winded!" also in English? Should I conclude that all that famous Maydan shooting video was staged too? What's your opinion?

_Richard_ 04-10-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20045056)
So you think it's ok if the medic on Canadian barricades speaks Somalian? But even is medic is an American, why he says "he's fuckin' winded!" also in English? Should I conclude that all that famous Maydan shooting video was staged too? What's your opinion?

don't know much about Canada, do you.

TheSquealer 04-10-2014 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20045051)
The one must be an idiot if you believe that Somalia, US or Chinese propaganda is somehow better than Russian one. How old are you? :)

You are comparing Russian, Chinese and Somalian news sources, censorship, propaganda and direct government influence over the media to Western media and asking "how old" i am?

I guess the defining difference is that i've been around the world and seen a great deal more than you have. I can make a lot of comparisons between nations that you cannot.

just a punk 04-10-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20045058)
don't know much about Canada, do you.

I thought you live there and assumed you know that Somalian is not an official language there. However, I still wasting for your answer. So, once again: even if medic is an American, why he says "he's fuckin' winded!" in English? Should I conclude that all that famous Maydan shooting video was staged too? What's your opinion?

TheSquealer 04-10-2014 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20045056)
So you think it's ok if the medic on Canadian barricades speaks Somalian? But even is medic is an American, why he says "he's fuckin' winded!" also in English? Should I conclude that all that famous Maydan shooting video was staged too? What's your opinion?

He was trying to say he's wounded. Not winded. and his exact words were that it sounded like he said in Russian,, look look.. then he said in English "he's wounded fuck" and he was clearly a Russian speaker.

_Richard_ 04-10-2014 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20045070)
I thought you live there and assumed you know that Somalian is not an official language there. However, I still wasting for your answer. So, once again: even if medic is an American, why he says "he's fuckin' winded!" in English? Should I conclude that all that famous Maydan shooting video was staged too? What's your opinion?

i don't want to watch that again, he is saying 'he is one dead fuck', with a thick accent.

Perhaps he is speaking english because these videos had the most value to western/english speaking world?

just a punk 04-10-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20045067)
You are comparing Russian, Chinese and Somalian news sources, censorship, propaganda and direct government influence over the media to Western media and asking "how old" i am?

Yes, I do ask about your age but I do not compare. A propaganda is the same everywhere. E.g:



Nice piece of the shitty US propaganda, isn't it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20045067)
I guess the defining difference is that i've been around the world and seen a great deal more than you have.

How could you know how many countries I've been to and how many things I saw? Who you are to say "i've seen a great deal more than you have", clown? Everything you told about Russia in your previous posts was a total bullshit.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20045067)
I can make a lot of comparisons between nations that you cannot.

Really? Any examples please? But the real difference is that I've been to your country (and not only of course) for a few times while you never been to mine (even if you pretend you were) :2 cents:

just a punk 04-10-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20045072)
He was trying to say he's wounded. Not winded.

Oh, you just found a typo in my post. Congrats on that, you are the winner! Take your milk an go to sleep :thumbsup

just a punk 04-10-2014 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20045076)
i don't want to watch that again, he is saying 'he is one dead fuck', with a thick accent.

Perhaps he is speaking english because these videos had the most value to western/english speaking world?

How he would know that video will have "the most value in western/english speaking world"? Is it possible to speak foreign language "for a better screen" in such a dramatic situation? Course if it's not a staged one...


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