New affiliation option for Skype Pay-per-minute system: OpenAffiliate integration - GoFuckYourself.com

skyprivate · 04-04-2014, 06:33 AM

Maybe you know that we have an in-house affiliate program . The news is that we just added the Verotel OpenAffiliate integration, that I want to introduce to you.

The program is not public yet, we want to have good partners for our service: quality not quantity, so I am here to answer all your needs.

Short info:

the service is 9 months young (think this is the same chance as in 2001 when Paypal was launched - you can earn % from all the transaction members or models will make in our platform)
payout is Paxum and Payoneer
you can refer models and/or members
models share is 75% minimum and up to 80%
15% ProS (Profit Share) for models (meaning: 15% from our profit. 15% from 20% = 3 % from the total amount) + 15 ProS (Profit Share) for members (meaning: 15% from our profit. 15% from 20% = 3 % from the total amount) = 30% ProS (or 6% from total amount).
special partnerships that are on their way will create a great appeal to the models and members + we are the only service to charge per minute on skype => we think this is a great opportunity for all of us.

Any feedback is much appreciated

adultmobile · 04-04-2014, 08:02 AM

Rhetorical question: where do the camgirls find (steal from) most of the skype pay users?

skyprivate · 04-04-2014, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Rhetorical question: where do the camgirls find (steal from) most of the skype pay users?

This is a trend for years.
Beside the answer you imply, many independent models have twitter, personal fan site, or are listed in "skype girls" directories.

slavdogg · 04-04-2014, 12:41 PM

So if models are paid 75-80%
How much do affiliates make ??

Something wrong with that model here, or you dont know who your primary costumer is.

adultmobile · 04-04-2014, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyprivate

This is a trend for years.
many independent models have twitter, personal fan site.

Of course, so the cam site customer can find the girls' direct contacts while googleing for their cam site nick

skyprivate · 04-04-2014, 08:16 PM

@slavdogg,
it is in the initial post. 6%. 3% from referred models + 3% from referred members.

lagcam · 04-05-2014, 12:23 AM

You should have stuck to promoting this to cam girls. I don't imagine there will be a lot of interest from the people you are helping cam girls steal customers from.....

Mutt · 04-05-2014, 01:08 AM

6% to affiliates, I think this is the value Paul Markham thought affiliates were worth.

The payout is an insult to a webmaster, you'll find no affiliates here - maybe some of the weirdo stalker fans will spam on other cam sites and twitter for 6%.

jimmycastor · 04-05-2014, 01:33 AM

6% , on a paysite we do in average 40-50%, on cams 25-30% (not counted in shaving)

nice idea but think it over again

adultmobile · 04-05-2014, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyprivate

[Skype Shows] This is a trend for years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam

You should have stuck to promoting this to cam girls. I don't imagine there will be a lot of interest from the people you are helping cam girls steal customers from.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmycastor

[You give affiliates] 6%, on cams we do 25-30%

Sorry if I feel compelled to write, but I run cam programs since 10 years now, and I can not stand this "but girls got twitter and fan page" story.

As the OP said, "This is a trend for years" that peformers steal customers from cam sites (where they get 30%-50%), to show directly in Skype, cutting out site+affiliate rev share, so to get 100% minus any direct billing fee. Western Union it is the preferred way: no chargeback and fees on user side only. Otherwise, lots of cam girls got Zombaio in own cam sites, esp. when it had just 4% fee at launch, this is 96% left, and can be cashed in ATM with redpass card (altough, zombaio/redpass it suffers of delays, lately).

Still, Skype (or yahoo or else messenger), compared with the cam site from where the customer it was stolen, it misses some automation to schedule appointments and account the minutes. So, systems or plugins to bill within Skype shows it is in demand by such cam girls, and then providing it is ok, and even smart, just this is unlikely to get nice reviews or support by the cam affiliates. The reason is easy: for each 6% an affiliate get on Skype, the same member it was stolen from a cam site where 25%+ it was paid out to another affiliate.

A Skype biller anyway it can suffer of the same issue of cam sites - if paying only 70%-80% to the model, she can bring the guys in a cam site as his affiliate. Some cam sites pay up to 100% to the model who brings the customer, and more than 80% it is common. Even us, we give 82% to the model who brings the user in chatgf.com , that's 2% more than this skype biller offer, and she can use a full cam site facility. In fact, every day our cam girls "bring guys", and all the times I asked "where from", the answer it is "streamate, mfc,..." and never "he found my twitter" or even "I don't know how he found me". So I don't even ask where they find. That's fair enough because the girls steal my guys to bring in other cam sites as well - it is like: you should get guys stolen into your site as much as those stolen out into others, to balance the flow in/out. Of course the most common "models banning" reason it is "exchange of contacts", and that's the main task of cam admins. The girls even print own skype in piece of paper to show quickly on video (with note for user NOT to talk about it in chat), so not to have anything left in the chat logs!

The OP noted that cam girls got twitter and fan sites, implying that cam girls can find new pay users directly too, rather than via cam sites. Just by logic, if that it was true, no cam girl would spend their time to sit in sites for ex. streamate for just 30% (and 35% only if you're in US/CA), instead that's the site with most online models (even more than MFC, at least last time I checked). In fact if you ask any cam girl or read their forums, you get confirmation that 99.9% of guys ending up with skype shows, it was simply stolen from some cam site, where an affiliate probably was getting paid a 25%+ revshare.

skyprivate · 04-05-2014, 09:15 AM

thank you all for feedback.
@adultmobile
chatgf is really nice. we all know about it. and I agree with your last reply.
just that you never quoted my full first reply:

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyprivate

This is a trend for years.
Beside the answer you imply, ....

I know that this is happening, that this is the reality. This is the reason SP was built.
Just that now I understand better the opinion of (a part) of the adult affiliates.

BareBacked · 04-05-2014, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slavdogg

So if models are paid 75-80%
How much do affiliates make ??

Something wrong with that model here, or you dont know who your primary costumer is.

there is no way to track this to affiliates
or are you saying affiliates get lifetime for all transactions they send?
Its like a affiliate sending to X ccbill site and then the affiliate gets paid when user joins Y ccbill site 1 year later.

lagcam · 04-05-2014, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyprivate

thank you all for feedback.
@adultmobile
chatgf is really nice. we all know about it. and I agree with your last reply.
just that you never quoted my full first reply:

I know that this is happening, that this is the reality. This is the reason SP was built.
Just that now I understand better the opinion of (a part) of the adult affiliates.

What you will also come to understand is that the way you are setup, you are actually no different to a cam site and as such it won't be long before the average cam girl realises that you are just another middleman standing between her and the customer's money which will expose you to all the same risks the cam sites have, but with less margin to absorb them.

Not to mention, that as you cannot monitor the chats, there could be all kinds of illegal activities going on (as I am sure there is with skype everyday anyway), but the difference in this case is that you are the one collecting and disbursing the money.

That said, I do like the idea of what you have done, and off site deals will be done regardless of whether you exist or not so I wish you luck. You have already lasted longer than I thought you would when I first heard about your site.

skyprivate · 04-07-2014, 10:27 AM

lagcam,
thank you for your reply and feedback. what I can say to you is that we are working to cover all the legal+business +technical+partnerships (affiliation included) aspects. let's see what the future will bring

04-04-2014, 06:33 AM	#1
skyprivate Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: EU Posts: 45	New affiliation option for Skype Pay-per-minute system: OpenAffiliate integration Maybe you know that we have an in-house affiliate program . The news is that we just added the Verotel OpenAffiliate integration, that I want to introduce to you. The program is not public yet, we want to have good partners for our service: quality not quantity, so I am here to answer all your needs. Short info: the service is 9 months young (think this is the same chance as in 2001 when Paypal was launched - you can earn % from all the transaction members or models will make in our platform) payout is Paxum and Payoneer you can refer models and/or members models share is 75% minimum and up to 80% 15% ProS (Profit Share) for models (meaning: 15% from our profit. 15% from 20% = 3 % from the total amount) + 15 ProS (Profit Share) for members (meaning: 15% from our profit. 15% from 20% = 3 % from the total amount) = 30% ProS (or 6% from total amount). special partnerships that are on their way will create a great appeal to the models and members + we are the only service to charge per minute on skype => we think this is a great opportunity for all of us. Any feedback is much appreciated __________________ / Q: Where all the cam girls go nowadays? A: to Skype to make paid shows. Q: What should affiliates learn about to stay ahead of the game? A:The per-minute billing system for Skype - Skyprivate. SkyPrivate is the only pay-per-minute system for Skype Shows: WhaleHunter.cash Whatsapp Sexting: OurLittleSecret.co Dan, affilliate manager SkyPrivate.com /

04-04-2014, 08:02 AM	#2
adultmobile No, I am not banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ChatGF.com Posts: 5,345	Rhetorical question: where do the camgirls find (steal from) most of the skype pay users? __________________ TubeCamGirl.com

04-04-2014, 12:41 PM	#4
slavdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,570	So if models are paid 75-80% How much do affiliates make ?? Something wrong with that model here, or you dont know who your primary costumer is. __________________ Adult Traffic for Sale

04-04-2014, 08:16 PM	#6
skyprivate Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: EU Posts: 45	@slavdogg, it is in the initial post. 6%. 3% from referred models + 3% from referred members. __________________ / Q: Where all the cam girls go nowadays? A: to Skype to make paid shows. Q: What should affiliates learn about to stay ahead of the game? A:The per-minute billing system for Skype - Skyprivate. SkyPrivate is the only pay-per-minute system for Skype Shows: WhaleHunter.cash Whatsapp Sexting: OurLittleSecret.co Dan, affilliate manager SkyPrivate.com /

04-05-2014, 12:23 AM	#7
lagcam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,892	You should have stuck to promoting this to cam girls. I don't imagine there will be a lot of interest from the people you are helping cam girls steal customers from..... __________________ Working Cam site for sale - NOT affiliate.

04-05-2014, 01:08 AM	#8
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	6% to affiliates, I think this is the value Paul Markham thought affiliates were worth. The payout is an insult to a webmaster, you'll find no affiliates here - maybe some of the weirdo stalker fans will spam on other cam sites and twitter for 6%. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

04-05-2014, 01:33 AM	#9
jimmycastor So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 342	6% , on a paysite we do in average 40-50%, on cams 25-30% (not counted in shaving) nice idea but think it over again

04-07-2014, 10:27 AM	#14
skyprivate Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: EU Posts: 45	lagcam, thank you for your reply and feedback. what I can say to you is that we are working to cover all the legal+business +technical+partnerships (affiliation included) aspects. let's see what the future will bring __________________ / Q: Where all the cam girls go nowadays? A: to Skype to make paid shows. Q: What should affiliates learn about to stay ahead of the game? A:The per-minute billing system for Skype - Skyprivate. SkyPrivate is the only pay-per-minute system for Skype Shows: WhaleHunter.cash Whatsapp Sexting: OurLittleSecret.co Dan, affilliate manager SkyPrivate.com /