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Dirty F · 03-28-2014, 07:13 AM

I always preferred older stuff over the modern equipment. But now i'm finally gonna buy something new.
I'm looking at this http://www.onkyousa.com/Products/model.php?m=HT-S9400THX&class=Systems

Now reading some reviews i'm kinda confused. Am i correct if i say these systems can in and output video signals? So instead of having the tv send the audio to the receiver, the receiver sends the audio and video to the tv?
I never heard of this before if that is the case.
What would be the benefit?

AaronM · 03-28-2014, 07:29 AM

There are a few advantages. For me, I appreciate not having to switch my TV to different inputs every time I change to a different component.

If I put a Blu-ray disk in, the receiver kicks into BD mode and outputs to the TV.

If I plug in my Macbook Pro then I select Video 1 (which maps separate audio & video inputs into one output) and sends the signal to the TV.

Change the receiver to Ruko and it sends to the TV.

All through a single HDMI cable.

Some receivers also offer upscaling and other features as well.

Dirty F · 03-28-2014, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

There are a few advantages. For me, I appreciate not having to switch my TV to different inputs every time I change to a different component.

If I put a Blu-ray disk in, the receiver kicks into BD mode and outputs to the TV.

If I plug in my Macbook Pro then I select Video 1 (which maps separate audio & video inputs into one output) and sends the signal to the TV.

Change the receiver to Ruko and it sends to the TV.

All through a single HDMI cable.

Some receivers also offer upscaling and other features as well.

This sounds so confusing actually. But i guess that's because i never used it before.

2MuchMark · 03-28-2014, 07:47 AM

Hi Dirty F,

There are several benefits. First, you end up with less switching to do. Your AV Receiver sends the correct signal to your TV and speakers depending on what you want to see and hear, with the press of only a single button on a single remote. Plus the replacement of all those analog video and audio cables with a single, digital HDMI cable means a lot less wires, perfect, clear digital 7.1 discreet channels of sound, and perfect picture. You'll love it.

Dirty F · 03-28-2014, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

Hi Dirty F,

There are several benefits. First, you end up with less switching to do. Your AV Receiver sends the correct signal to your TV and speakers depending on what you want to see and hear, with the press of only a single button on a single remote. Plus the replacement of all those analog video and audio cables with a single, digital HDMI cable means a lot less wires, perfect, clear digital 7.1 discreet channels of sound, and perfect picture. You'll love it.

Hi. I think i'm starting to understand. Sounds pretty good now. Thanks.

StinkyPink · 03-28-2014, 08:15 AM

One word Yamaha... two words? Yamaha Aventage!

AaronM · 03-28-2014, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

If you get yourself a universal remote it makes things even simpler. You have to program the remote, but once you get it setup it works great.

Press a button on your remote that says: "watch Blu-ray."

Your Blu-ray player turns on, your tv turns on and switches to the proper input, the receiver turns on and switches to the Blu-ray input. All with one button press. You also don't need to even point the remote at your equipment if you get one with a transmitter. You can be in a different room and turn shit on.

I have a computer, satellite receiver, cd changer and 15 video game consoles (I collect video games) all hooked into my Onkyo 818 receiver (had to add 3 extra video switchers because of all the consoles) and I can turn on almost anything with just one button press. Some of the older consoles obviously require one further step because you have to manually turn their power on and in some cases choose the correct button on the corresponding video switcher, but otherwise it makes things really simple.

I would hate to imagine trying to do that without a receiver and a universal remote. I have a drawer full of remotes that I don't have to use anymore.

Most current decent receivers have either Wi-Fi or a hard wired network adapter and are controllable though apps. The days of universal remotes are running out.

SmutHammer · 03-28-2014, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by StinkyPink

One word Yamaha... two words? Yamaha Aventage!

Haha, I knew when I seen this thread title you wouldn't be able to stay out of it

iwantchixx · 03-28-2014, 09:44 AM

Another point to keep in mind, if you are used to the old systems, is that this one will sound weak to you for music. It'll be GREAT for movies (what its designed for) but for music, those cube speakers just wont sound as good as old systems. If you can afford the expense, buy the amp separately and get better speakers.

TrafficGoldmine · 03-28-2014, 01:08 PM

OMG it's Franck

Dvae · 03-28-2014, 02:17 PM

Which ever one you get make sure it has Apple AirPlay. Absolutely a must have.

iwantchixx · 03-28-2014, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

Which ever one you get make sure it has Apple AirPlay. Absolutely a must have.

Assuming he has apple products...

or can that stream from windows machines, too?

2MuchMark · 03-28-2014, 10:51 PM

Apple Airplay is awesome. If your new rig doesn't have it built it, you can add it easily for about $100.

Socks · 03-28-2014, 11:48 PM

I'd steer clear of a speaker package like that. Or are you just considering the receiver?

My advice is to buy used, because people regularly buy this stuff and sell it in a few months because they don't use it enough, or because they're moving, or upgrading, downsizing, etc. Also you don't pay taxes buying used.

Also most people who buy this kind of gear take great care of it. If there's something wrong with it, you'll hear it.

I bought my main towers first, then added a centre channel, then surrounds, and recently I picked up subwoofer.

My buddy sold me his receiver for $50 that he spent something like $1,000 on, because it doesn't have HDMI. Sold!

So to get started and see if I used it I was only out $450 and had a *really* nice 2.0 system imo for the price.

My setup:

Paradigm 11SE MKIII mains - Paid $400
Harman Kardon AV230 - Paid $50
Paradigm CC-290 v5 center - Paid $200
Paradigm Studio v2 rears - Paid $350
GoldenEar Forcefield 5 sub - Paid $725

Panasonic 65" TCP-P65ST60 plasma, bought new

Next step if I ever decide to upgrade will be a more powerful amp (though I don't really need the power, might as well, and I'd like HDMI and DTS-MA) I like the stuff from Anthem (http://www.anthemav.com/products-cur.../page=overview)

And if I upgrade my mains I'd look at GoldenEar Triton 2's or Pendragon's.

Dirty F · 03-29-2014, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

Another point to keep in mind, if you are used to the old systems, is that this one will sound weak to you for music. It'll be GREAT for movies (what its designed for) but for music, those cube speakers just wont sound as good as old systems. If you can afford the expense, buy the amp separately and get better speakers.

I have 2 really good Sony speakers i will use. No way i'm using those small front speakers for music.

Dirty F · 03-29-2014, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

Which ever one you get make sure it has Apple AirPlay. Absolutely a must have.

I don't give a shit about stuff like that. So no, it's not an absolutely must have.

Dirty F · 03-29-2014, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Socks

I'd steer clear of a speaker package like that. Or are you just considering the receiver?

My advice is to buy used, because people regularly buy this stuff and sell it in a few months because they don't use it enough, or because they're moving, or upgrading, downsizing, etc. Also you don't pay taxes buying used.

Also most people who buy this kind of gear take great care of it. If there's something wrong with it, you'll hear it.

I bought my main towers first, then added a centre channel, then surrounds, and recently I picked up subwoofer.

My buddy sold me his receiver for $50 that he spent something like $1,000 on, because it doesn't have HDMI. Sold!

So to get started and see if I used it I was only out $450 and had a *really* nice 2.0 system imo for the price.

My setup:

Paradigm 11SE MKIII mains - Paid $400
Harman Kardon AV230 - Paid $50
Paradigm CC-290 v5 center - Paid $200
Paradigm Studio v2 rears - Paid $350
GoldenEar Forcefield 5 sub - Paid $725

Panasonic 65" TCP-P65ST60 plasma, bought new

Next step if I ever decide to upgrade will be a more powerful amp (though I don't really need the power, might as well, and I'd like HDMI and DTS-MA) I like the stuff from Anthem (http://www.anthemav.com/products-cur.../page=overview)

And if I upgrade my mains I'd look at GoldenEar Triton 2's or Pendragon's.

I don't like packages like that normally but this specific setup gets so many ridiculousy good reviews that i'm pretty sure it's damn awesome. And as mentioned above i'm using my own big speakers in the front.
The surround speakers are really big and heavy btw. They feel and look impressive. Just bought it. They deliver it tomorrow.

iwantchixx · 03-29-2014, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

I don't like packages like that normally but this specific setup gets so many ridiculousy good reviews that i'm pretty sure it's damn awesome. And as mentioned above i'm using my own big speakers in the front.
The surround speakers are really big and heavy btw. They feel and look impressive. Just bought it. They deliver it tomorrow.

Sony? Ok, speakers included in the package should be better. It wont "pound" like old systems but will sound better.

ErectMedia · 03-30-2014, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by StinkyPink

One word Yamaha... two words? Yamaha Aventage!

Bought a Yamaha 5.1 system more than a handful of years ago and never had a problem and still works like brand new. One of the reasons I bought it as reviews I looked up said shit lasts without any problems. Debating if I upgrade it or just use it till it fries as getting the itch for new shit even though it has no issues. If I do upgrade probably look at Yamaha again along with Denon, Onkyo etc... as all good brands.

candyflip · 03-30-2014, 06:59 AM

I'm not big into audio for music, but I purchased a Yamaha Aventage RX-A730 for the home theatre. I love the built in AirPlay...which has me playing music on it too.

Dirty F · 03-30-2014, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

I'm not big into audio for music, but I purchased a Yamaha Aventage RX-A730 for the home theatre. I love the built in AirPlay...which has me playing music on it too.

Wow, you play music on your sound system?

Dvae · 03-30-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Wow, you play music on your sound system?

You really are an asshole Frank.
How long until you're banned again?

03-28-2014, 07:13 AM	#1
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Stupid question about audio receivers I always preferred older stuff over the modern equipment. But now i'm finally gonna buy something new. I'm looking at this http://www.onkyousa.com/Products/model.php?m=HT-S9400THX&class=Systems Now reading some reviews i'm kinda confused. Am i correct if i say these systems can in and output video signals? So instead of having the tv send the audio to the receiver, the receiver sends the audio and video to the tv? I never heard of this before if that is the case. What would be the benefit?

03-28-2014, 07:47 AM	#4
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 49,875	Hi Dirty F, There are several benefits. First, you end up with less switching to do. Your AV Receiver sends the correct signal to your TV and speakers depending on what you want to see and hear, with the press of only a single button on a single remote. Plus the replacement of all those analog video and audio cables with a single, digital HDMI cable means a lot less wires, perfect, clear digital 7.1 discreet channels of sound, and perfect picture. You'll love it. __________________ Makers of: Miricam 8.2: The Ultimate Videochat & Pay Per Minute Billing System https://2much.net/miricam.php Last edited by 2MuchMark; 03-28-2014 at 07:48 AM..

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Dvae Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: US Posts: 5,326	Which ever one you get make sure it has Apple AirPlay. Absolutely a must have. __________________ . . Arguing with a troll is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig, after a couple of hours you realize the pig likes it.

03-28-2014, 10:51 PM	#13
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 49,875	Apple Airplay is awesome. If your new rig doesn't have it built it, you can add it easily for about $100. __________________ Makers of: Miricam 8.2: The Ultimate Videochat & Pay Per Minute Billing System https://2much.net/miricam.php

03-28-2014, 07:29 AM	#2
AaronM GFY Royality ;) Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,917	There are a few advantages. For me, I appreciate not having to switch my TV to different inputs every time I change to a different component. If I put a Blu-ray disk in, the receiver kicks into BD mode and outputs to the TV. If I plug in my Macbook Pro then I select Video 1 (which maps separate audio & video inputs into one output) and sends the signal to the TV. Change the receiver to Ruko and it sends to the TV. All through a single HDMI cable. Some receivers also offer upscaling and other features as well.

03-28-2014, 08:15 AM	#6
StinkyPink It's all goooood. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Hoe Stroll Posts: 1,591	One word Yamaha... two words? Yamaha Aventage!

03-28-2014, 09:44 AM	#9
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	Another point to keep in mind, if you are used to the old systems, is that this one will sound weak to you for music. It'll be GREAT for movies (what its designed for) but for music, those cube speakers just wont sound as good as old systems. If you can afford the expense, buy the amp separately and get better speakers.

03-28-2014, 11:48 PM	#14
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	I'd steer clear of a speaker package like that. Or are you just considering the receiver? My advice is to buy used, because people regularly buy this stuff and sell it in a few months because they don't use it enough, or because they're moving, or upgrading, downsizing, etc. Also you don't pay taxes buying used. Also most people who buy this kind of gear take great care of it. If there's something wrong with it, you'll hear it. I bought my main towers first, then added a centre channel, then surrounds, and recently I picked up subwoofer. My buddy sold me his receiver for $50 that he spent something like $1,000 on, because it doesn't have HDMI. Sold! So to get started and see if I used it I was only out $450 and had a really nice 2.0 system imo for the price. My setup: Paradigm 11SE MKIII mains - Paid $400 Harman Kardon AV230 - Paid $50 Paradigm CC-290 v5 center - Paid $200 Paradigm Studio v2 rears - Paid $350 GoldenEar Forcefield 5 sub - Paid $725 Panasonic 65" TCP-P65ST60 plasma, bought new Next step if I ever decide to upgrade will be a more powerful amp (though I don't really need the power, might as well, and I'd like HDMI and DTS-MA) I like the stuff from Anthem (http://www.anthemav.com/products-cur.../page=overview) And if I upgrade my mains I'd look at GoldenEar Triton 2's or Pendragon's. Last edited by Socks; 03-28-2014 at 11:53 PM..

03-30-2014, 06:59 AM	#20
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,067	I'm not big into audio for music, but I purchased a Yamaha Aventage RX-A730 for the home theatre. I love the built in AirPlay...which has me playing music on it too. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me