Twistys bans former contract girls, long time members and even Shap shuts down forum

[mikesouth]

www.mikesouth.com for the story a lot of people are being diplomatic about it all but some of the girls are PISSED like Vanessa veracruz, Brett Rossi, Sabrina maree

Twistys even banned a guy who had been a member for 10 years straight and these are the ones that have contacted me. Im sure there are lots more

Its odd to me the things that people will overlook and then suddenly something like this becomes a breaking point

however you read it its another MindGeek FAIL

too bad too cuz Rob is a good guy, Shap is a good guy its sad what they did to his successful site. (These are all MY Opinions I dont speak for Rob Shap or anyone else but I will give them a voice.) If I were an affiliate I wouldnt be happy about the way they are treating recurring members here....

Vanessa is calling for a boycott and offering incentives to do so.

I am offering a free ad on mikesouth.com for 3 months to whomever hires Rob...so long as it isnt Mansef/Manwin/MindGeek

[Socks]

[brassmonkey]

use your card and sign them up

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

www.mikesouth.com for the story a lot of people are being diplomatic about it all but some of the girls are PISSED like Vanessa veracruz, Brett Rossi, Sabrina maree

Twistys even banned a guy who had been a member for 10 years straight and these are the ones that have contacted me. Im sure there are lots more

Its odd to me the things that people will overlook and then suddenly something like this becomes a breaking point

however you read it its another MindGeek FAIL

too bad too cuz Rob is a good guy, Shap is a good guy its sad what they did to his successful site. (These are all MY Opinions I dont speak for Rob Shap or anyone else but I will give them a voice.) If I were an affiliate I wouldnt be happy about the way they are treating recurring members here....

Vanessa is calling for a boycott and offering incentives to do so.

I am offering a free ad on mikesouth.com for 3 months to whomever hires Rob...so long as it isnt Mansef/Manwin/MindGeek

I went to your site and saw a post about Jules Jordan winning his law suit... but I couldn't find any other links on that story. What happened there?

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Manwin/MindGeek was supposed to improve sites like Twisty's...oops, I guess:




Feras Antoon

I heard that Feras Antoon has been laying off lots of MindGeek employees, what's the story about that (other than more money in his pocket after the Fabian Thylmann coup d'etat)?

I hope AVN makes Feras a keynote speaker since it would be nice to learn more about the new Potentate of Porn (although he may want to avoid the curse of Fabian).



ADG

[mikesouth]

Originally Posted by Far-L

I went to your site and saw a post about Jules Jordan winning his law suit... but I couldn't find any other links on that story. What happened there?

I think you need to refresh your browser cache


top story is vanessa's post second down from that is brett rossi's

I reported on the contest being fixed about two weeks ago

or do you mean more on the jules jordan winning his lawsuit story? If so what more is there to say?

[mikesouth]

personally i could have cared if jules won or lost he climbed into bed with that dog knowing full well it was a dog...then he sues cuz he got fleas....poor form IMNSHO

[mikesouth]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Manwin/MindGeek was supposed to improve sites like Twisty's...oops, I guess:




Feras Antoon

I heard that Feras Antoon has been laying off lots of MindGeek employees, what's the story about that (other than more money in his pocket after the Fabian Thylmann coup d'etat)?

I hope AVN makes Feras a keynote speaker since it would be nice to learn more about the new Potentate of Porn (although he may want to avoid the curse of Fabian).



ADG

feras was always ONE of the guys pulling Fabians strings....he wants to stay OUT of the limelight. nice to have a pic of him though TY man....

and yer right there have been a TON of layoffs since late last summer for all the money they flung around they really have pretty much fucked up everything they touched....

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

I think you need to refresh your browser cache


top story is vanessa's post second down from that is brett rossi's

I reported on the contest being fixed about two weeks ago

or do you mean more on the jules jordan winning his lawsuit story? If so what more is there to say?

I see he won his Kaytel suit but where is the proof he won his Manwin/mindgeek suit?

You posted on the 7th:

Manwin / MindGeek Fires Entire Legal Team In Montreal
By Mike South
March 7th, 2014
Manwin/MindGeek has terminated the entire legal department in Montreal. Some say it is because they lost to Jules Jordan others say it is because they are cost cutting, I would expect it is the later. I reported a while back that Manwin would be redoubling its efforts on tube sites and every other business would be cut, and that is certainly happening.

[mikesouth]

Because I didnt care really I went on the word of my sources who said they lost I still dont care actually and wtf does that have to do with twistys anyway?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Because I didnt care really I went on the word of my sources who said they lost I still dont care actually and wtf does that have to do with twistys anyway?

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Manwin/MindGeek was supposed to improve sites like Twisty's...oops, I guess:

Almost every top brand in porn paysites has a similar graph over the same time period.

Then there's yours

[dig420]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Almost every top brand in porn paysites has a similar graph over the same time period.

Then there's yours

ouch!

[Roald]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Because I didnt care really I went on the word of my sources who said they lost I still dont care actually and wtf does that have to do with twistys anyway?

So your site is just an industry gossip blog. Nothing more nothing less. Thanks for confirming ;)

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Roald

So your site is just an industry gossip blog. Nothing more nothing less. Thanks for confirming ;)

Why is it that whenever somebody does something "wrong", that clowns on GFY choose to attack the guy telling you about it instead of discussing what happened.

The main guy at Twisty's quit a few days ago. The models are posting up what happened.

And you are cutting Mike South down? Jesus man.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Why is it that whenever somebody does something "wrong", that clowns on GFY choose to attack the guy telling you about it instead of discussing what happened.

The main guy at Twisty's quit a few days ago. The models are posting up what happened.

And you are cutting Mike South down? Jesus man.

Oh come on Robbie it's not like this is the first time I'm not siding with Mike ;)

Just saying that with that little post he confirmed he's just a gossiper

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Off topic, but this is the worst parfum I ever smelled

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Because I didnt care really I went on the word of my sources who said they lost I still dont care actually and wtf does that have to do with twistys anyway?

My bad, I thought you had an actual scoop there. What was I thinking.

[pornmasta]

mike i don't want to sound harsh, but your site sucks.
Where are the articles on stuffs that matter like paul markham tutorials and dvtimes videos ?

[kane]

What else is going on there. After reading your post it sounds like they changed how they do the voting/choosing for the treat of the year. That can't be the only reason people are quitting and members are pissed and leaving the site.

Has the quality dropped as well?

[JFK]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

mike i don't want to sound harsh, but your site sucks.
Where are the articles on stuffs that matter like paul markham tutorials and dvtimes videos ?

[sarettah]

Ok, not meaning to be an asshole here but I went and read what you had from Vanessa and it kind of sounds like she is just sour graping it a bit, ya know?

The selection, rather than the honest vote, of the latest Treat of the Year runner up is not only an insult to my professionalism as a model but is also a drastic departure in the business practices of a once reputable company.....

It’s shameful to begin with that such a large company would cheat myself out of a hard earned member decided award......

I didn't see any proof posted by her of any of the stuff she claimed. Doesn't mean it is not true but just saying something does not make it true.

Then there is this:

In an eerie parallel to the 2008 banking collapse where senior management thought their institutions “too big to fail” we again see the ugly head of big business permeating another aspect of our everyday lives.

Really? I mean REALLY? Twisty's screwing her out of an award is akin to the 2008 economic collapse? Once again, Really?

.

[jódete]

Originally Posted by Roald

So your site is just an industry gossip blog. Nothing more nothing less. Thanks for confirming ;)

Originally Posted by Roald

Oh come on Robbie it's not like this is the first time I'm not siding with Mike ;)

Just saying that with that little post he confirmed he's just a gossiper

thx 4 confirming ur a manwin/mindgeek ass kisser.

just saying that with ur support towards manwin/mindgeek confirms u kiss ass

and even Shap shuts down forum

yo mike , how n why did shap still have control on the twistys board ???? that should of went with the sale of twistys.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by jódete

thx 4 confirming ur a manwin/mindgeek ass kisser.

just saying that with ur support towards manwin/mindgeek confirms u kiss ass




yo mike , how n why did shap still have control on the twistys board ???? that should of went with the sale of twistys.

lol you're welcome

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Because I didnt care really I went on the word of my sources who said they lost I still dont care actually and wtf does that have to do with twistys anyway?

so you don't check your sources and post whatever hysterical crap gets emails to you... brilliant Mike.... I'll make sure and believe everything you post in the future....

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by jódete

yo mike , how n why did shap still have control on the twistys board ???? that should of went with the sale of twistys.

Shap didn't still have control on the Twistys forum, he had a username where he could post, the same username he had since 2007 when the forum opened. I believe his mod privledges were revoked but he could still stop by once in a while, which he did, and post or interact with the models and members. They deleted THAT profile Friday night.

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I didn't see any proof posted by her of any of the stuff she claimed. Doesn't mean it is not true but just saying something does not make it true.
.

Running it differently is no big deal I guess, it's just business though certainly not fair to the models & members. I ran Twistys and can guarantee without any doubt that Vanessa Veracruz finished in the top 2 of the member voting totals!

Originally Posted by sarettah

Ok, not meaning to be an asshole here but I went and read what you had from Vanessa and it kind of sounds like she is just sour graping it a bit, ya know?.

Re Vanessa having sour grapes? No she is pissed and should be. Twistys was known to be the only site that still ran an honest yearly competition. Penthouse chooses their Pet of the Year but at Twistys the members got to vote for their favorite and she would be crowned. She worked Very hard to push Twistys promoting herself on the members forum becoming a fan favorite in there and on Twitter daily, several times daily praising Twistys so yea she's pissed and for good reason.

[tony286]

Didnt they buy Shaps properties for his tubes not really for his paysite? I mean they have a site just like it babes.com. It seems from past history when a company buys lots of properties, they all start going down the shitter after a while.

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Manwin/MindGeek has terminated the entire legal department in Montreal. Some say it is because they lost to Mike South.

So the Manwin/MindGeek legal department was fired because they could not put offline the Mike South site

[CaptainHowdy]

Late sig spottin' ...

[VikingMan]

I always thought ATKingdom was boring site with boring photography and girls who look like they are not happy doing what they are doing.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Why is it that whenever somebody does something "wrong", that clowns on GFY choose to attack the guy telling you about it instead of discussing what happened.

The main guy at Twisty's quit a few days ago. The models are posting up what happened.

And you are cutting Mike South down? Jesus man.

They do this all the time going back years. The same people always come into Mikesouth threads and take little cheap shots at him or make these snide wisecracks.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

They do this all the time going back years. The same people always come into Mikesouth threads and take little cheap shots at him or make these snide wisecracks.

Why not just start a thread that straight up attacks Mike South?

And then stay on topic in these threads.

Roald said that he doesn't "agree" with Mike on this.

But how do we know? Roald didn't have ANYTHING to say on the actual subject. He just threw out a nasty insult at Mike.
As far as what Mike was actually talking about? Roald said nothing. He only insinuated that Mike is full of shit.

And then Ramster came in here himself and CONFIRMED what Mike was saying.

So shouldn't Roald either come back into this thread and admit he was out of line?
Or should Roald come back into this thread and call Ramster a liar too?

[NemesisEnforcer]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

... and wtf does that have to do with twistys anyway?

On a side note, when you find out why the OSHA reports disappeared (February 22, 2014), you will have a field day.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Why not just start a thread that straight up attacks Mike South?

And then stay on topic in these threads.

Roald said that he doesn't "agree" with Mike on this.

But how do we know? Roald didn't have ANYTHING to say on the actual subject. He just threw out a nasty insult at Mike.
As far as what Mike was actually talking about? Roald said nothing. He only insinuated that Mike is full of shit.

And then Ramster came in here himself and CONFIRMED what Mike was saying.

So shouldn't Roald either come back into this thread and admit he was out of line?
Or should Roald come back into this thread and call Ramster a liar too?

Oh please, Mike says he doesn't check things so how do we know who's right and wrong. I value Rob highly, Mike on the other hand is nothing more than someone with an agenda against mindwin. That's all fine but please don't treat his news as gospel since he admitted just here he's just as much as a gossip king as the next one.

If you think I was out of line than I'm sorry to hear so.

[sinclair]

they got Zito on the case now. first order of business...
throw shoots (money) at the new girls. this will all pass in a week

[MaDalton]

i'll park right here

[lucas131]

i just dont understand why would they ban members who has been with them 10 years? what if this good for? or you mean that are always drunk, stupid and on drugs, so they are doing things like that?

[VikingMan]

Wait wait wait.........Vanessa Vericruz allegedly won the vote??!!!!!! I am a huge fan of latina models but she is below average. She has ghetto tats, horrible bolt on boobs, and needs a nose job. I agree with what Mindgeek did here. Nicole Aniston is a way way better choice and a year from now nobody will give a fuck.

Perhaps Vanessa won the vote because she interacted with members and comes across as more approachable and available. It certainly was not because of her looks and this is coming from a guy who prefers dark haired latin women over blondes any day of the week.

[robwod]

Originally Posted by Ramster

Twistys was known to be the only site that still ran an honest yearly competition. Penthouse chooses their Pet of the Year but at Twistys the members got to vote for their favorite and she would be crowned.

To be fair Rob, FreeOnes runs a very honest contest as well. But I get what you mean by Paysite titles, like Playmate, Penthouse, Hustler Honey, Twistys Treat, etc.

The more surprising thing to me is how quickly this has snowballed on Twitter. Several well-known models calling for a boycott, and their fans who are members actually cancelling and showing screenshots of their cancellation. I honestly didn't think they'd get it to snowball to that level. It'll be interesting to see just what affect it has, if any, on content production as Twistys does hire models for shoots regularly. One would think that some will take the paycheck regardless.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Because I didnt care really I went on the word of my sources who said they lost I still dont care actually

Brilliant journalistic integrity!

Who cares if something is true, just 'print' any old shit to sell ads.

[baggg]

Originally Posted by robwod

Several well-known models calling for a boycott, and their fans who are members actually cancelling and showing screenshots of their cancellation.

You are right,people actually cancelling memberships lol
Wonder if manwin will (can?) take legal action

source:
https://twitter.com/MsVeracruzXXX

pics:
https://twitter.com/frontsight81/sta...518720/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Richter2k1/statu...195008/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Raptora22/status...399681/photo/1

[mikesouth]

Its always interesting to see the same mindGeek ass kissers try to derail a negative thread about MindGeek but I en devour to persevere LOL. i will do my best to include real industry news like Paul Markham advice and dvtimes videos in the future...theres just so much one guy can do in a day ya know...

My mindgeek sources one of whom was one of several sources on the loss to Jules Jordan (thats verified in my book) have told me that the upper management is PISSED that this has become the tempest in a teapot that it has and just like with Scott Justice at Digital Playground...some one(s) are going take a cut/lose a job over it.


Meantime draw from this what you like but one thing you can take to the bank...Manwin/MindGeek/Mansef/whatever can buy AVN and XBiz but they aint got enough to buy me...

[Femjoy Michael]

Originally Posted by VikingMan

Wait wait wait.........Vanessa Vericruz allegedly won the vote??!!!!!! I am a huge fan of latina models but she is below average. She has ghetto tats, horrible bolt on boobs, and needs a nose job. I agree with what Mindgeek did here. Nicole Aniston is a way way better choice and a year from now nobody will give a fuck.

Perhaps Vanessa won the vote because she interacted with members and comes across as more approachable and available. It certainly was not because of her looks and this is coming from a guy who prefers dark haired latin women over blondes any day of the week.

Do you agree from a business perspective or subjective opinion of attractiveness of the models?

If Vanessa won due to her own, legitimate, campaigning, do you not think she deserves credit? If the fans voted her to win because of qualities beyond her physical appearance, it says a lot about the mindset of the members.

Short term (new sales), this wouldn't affect business, but long-term (rebills) may be significantly impacted if ignoring customers' desires continues. The eroding of trust in management is a particularly grave concern. Isn't it often said, "the time to bail on an investment is when you can no longer trust the management" ?

The smarter guys bail out sooner. Rob may be smartest for leaving now. ;)

[Femjoy Michael]

Originally Posted by baggg

You are right,people actually cancelling memberships lol
Wonder if manwin will (can?) take legal action

HAHAHAHAHAHA. You did that on purpose right?
If you did, that's hilarious - mocking the fact they also made redundant their legal team just a few days ago.

although I don't see anything they can take legal action against if you are serious, unless the voting was not rigged, then they can pursue a libel case

[VikingMan]

Originally Posted by Femjoy Michael

Do you agree from a business perspective or subjective opinion of attractiveness of the models?

If Vanessa won due to her own, legitimate, campaigning, do you not think she deserves credit? If the fans voted her to win because of qualities beyond her physical appearance, it says a lot about the mindset of the members.

Short term (new sales), this wouldn't affect business, but long-term (rebills) may be significantly impacted if ignoring customers' desires continues. The eroding of trust in management is a particularly grave concern. Isn't it often said, "the time to bail on an investment is when you can no longer trust the management" ?

The smarter guys bail out sooner. Rob may be smartest for leaving now. ;)

From a business perspective I would have never booked Vanessa in the first place. If you want a hot latina model just look over what Pacino posts as they are way hotter. Also from a business perspective the honorable thing to do would be to give the winner of the popular vote the top prize.

If I had fucked up and let it get to the point where the model who won the popular vote was Vanessa I would have done the same thing and overruled the vote and just taken the black eyes.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Almost every top brand in porn paysites has a similar graph over the same time period.

Then there's yours

Originally Posted by sarettah

Really? I mean REALLY? Twisty's screwing her out of an award is akin to the 2008 economic collapse? Once again, Really?

.

I think I heard that on Fox News as well.

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Meantime draw from this what you like but one thing you can take to the bank...Manwin/MindGeek/Mansef/whatever can buy AVN and XBiz but they aint got enough to buy me...

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by robwod

To be fair Rob, FreeOnes runs a very honest contest as well. But I get what you mean by Paysite titles, like Playmate, Penthouse, Hustler Honey, Twistys Treat, etc.

The more surprising thing to me is how quickly this has snowballed on Twitter. Several well-known models calling for a boycott, and their fans who are members actually cancelling and showing screenshots of their cancellation. I honestly didn't think they'd get it to snowball to that level. It'll be interesting to see just what affect it has, if any, on content production as Twistys does hire models for shoots regularly. One would think that some will take the paycheck regardless.

Yes true, Freeones does as well, my bad. I was referring to the pay site side of things. I have much respect for Freeones, I think we can all agree a top notch site!

[The Porn Nerd]

What's happening with Sextube?
Used to be good sales there...

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by VikingMan

From a business perspective I would have never booked Vanessa in the first place. If you want a hot latina model just look over what Pacino posts as they are way hotter. Also from a business perspective the honorable thing to do would be to give the winner of the popular vote the top prize.

If I had fucked up and let it get to the point where the model who won the popular vote was Vanessa I would have done the same thing and overruled the vote and just taken the black eyes.

All this wasn't even about winning, it was about Madison Ivy being named runner up over Vanessa. Runner up gets nothing, zip! Look at Twistys and find ANY mention of the runner up from last year or the year before or the year before that.
http://www.twistys.com/tour/treats/l.../date/alltime/

This year they have Madison all over the tour as runner up, First time promoting runner up on the tour has Ever happened. That banner will be gone soon I'm sure and if it isn't and they keep promoting her as much as the new TOTY Nicole Aniston, I think if I was Nicole I'd be a bit pissed.

For those that don't understand Twistys (it's ok I didn't fully until I worked there) the runner up is more a reward for pushing Twistys, a thank you per say and in the past we've sent the runner up on the Treat of the Year shooting in order to have 3 girls to work the various girl/girl combos over 4 days of shooting. That's all. Runner up doesn't get money, a special trailer, featured on the tour or in the members area or a Twistys necklace.