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Stephen 03-12-2014 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20012914)
So in 2014 A Jetliner with 234 people can disappear & people can board planes with stolen passports.

The report I saw stated that the number of travelers with false documents is near a billion -- that seems super high to me, but many millions annually by most estimates. It appears that only the U.S., U.K. and Israel actually match passports against the Interpol "stolen" database

Flights departing from other nations are on their own...

Stephen 03-12-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 20012916)
Look on a map, you can see all the neighboring nations there. Some of them are full of Muslim extremists. All of them have incredibly corrupt governments and military.

I've been to Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia (which has the world's largest Muslim population, including many folks that have no use for westerners), but I'm not pointing fingers, I'm just about possibilities and capabilities.

Dollars to donuts everything is being looked at, including how feasible an Entebbe style raid on GITMO would be, if you just had a big enough plane -- of course, folks with the financing for something like that could just buy an aircraft without making all this public fuss...

On the Alaska example, TheSquealer is quite correct in that landing an aircraft on a short runway is a very different challenge than taking off again -- but I've been to Saba as well, and when it's a choice of "fly or die" wishful thinking has a certain anti-gravity effect :1orglaugh

TheSquealer 03-12-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 20012944)
On the Alaska example, TheSquealer is quite correct in that landing an aircraft on a short runway is a very different challenge than taking off again -- but I've been to Saba as well, and when it's a choice of "fly or die" wishful thinking has a certain anti-gravity effect :1orglaugh

The worst experience i ever had actually was being in a twin engine Navajo and as we climbed over a mountain range, there were these very loud bangs. really loud. Like muffled gun shots. Boom!..... Boom!...... Boom!... then nothing..... then 10 minutes later Boom!.

Pretty scary to be in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of winter in a plane with a poor glide ratio, in the mountains feeling like at any moment, its going to have some sort of catastrophic failure.

Turned out, we had a few 1000.00 of groceries and bags of potato chips were exploding as the cabin pressure decreased.


I would also add that if someone wanted a commercial jet for nefarious purposes as people suggest, its far easier to just steal one from a defunct airline, a company/private party or one that was repossessed and parked at some airport in some country no one cares about and so on. The world is littered with them.. Then its just a missing plane that another creditor might have taken possession of. It's not a practical solution to steal and hide a loaded commercial passenger plane and make it a world news story and attract every governments attention, endless searches, have military's searching, satellites searching etc.

SilentKnight 03-12-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20012958)
I would also add that if someone wanted a commercial jet for nefarious purposes as people suggest, its far easier to just steal one from a defunct airline, a company/private party or one that was repossessed and parked at some airport in some country no one cares about and so on. The world is littered with them.. Then its just a missing plane that another creditor might have taken possession of. It's not a practical solution to steal and hide a loaded commercial passenger plane and make it a world news story and attract every governments attention, endless searches, have military's searching, satellites searching etc.

Good point - unless you wanted the passengers to boost the carnage and body count.

Matt 26z 03-12-2014 02:39 PM

There was an interesting comment posted to this news story:


http://nationalreport.net/aliens-abd...-flight-mh370/
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What I believed to have happened to flight MH370, was that it collided with a thin layer of volcanic ash near the upper atmosphere at the altitude of 35000ft that drifted across from Mount Sinabung Indonesia Volcano that erupted 2 days prior killing 16 people and injuring many others. During the first day of the eruptions the winds carried the Mt Sinabung Volcanic ash to the West / North West of the island at an altitude of 12000ft or more, but then during the 7th of March the winds shifted 050 degrees (or similar) and was carried east across to the Gulf of Thailand as it drifted higher in the atmosphere.
As the pressure dropped that night above the Gulf of Thailand the thin layer must have dropped into the flight path of flight MH370, which would explain the mystery ‘static mumbling’ noise the ‘no-named’ pilot heard coming from the First Officer of MH370 before shortly losing contact.
At this moment I believe some form of electrostatic charge from the ash particles colliding with the aircraft disabled the communications of the 777, and in the meantime, the volcanic ash built up in the two Rolls Royce engines causing multiple engine fires and failures.
The electrostatic charge could of made it hard for the communications to emit a signal or rendered the hardware in the cockpit disabled.
As for the no wreckage of the 777 there could be only one explanation…
I believe the Senior Captain with his 19000 flight hours of experience, did his best to make an emergency water landing with no engines thrusting at all in pitch black darkness above the Gulf, which I believe he was successful at attempting with his decades of captaining, but, unfortunately and disastrously, the 777 sunk or the hull was breached upon impact, causing a torrent of water to flood the cabin at such a rate that it was pulled down by the weight of the ocean water, before the flight crew could open the doors perform evacuation procedures.
It is so sad what has happened, but when the wreckage is found, the authorities will have most of the victims of that flight accounted for so that the families can find resolution .
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DWB 03-12-2014 03:45 PM

The Chinese have found large pieces of something in the water, they think it may be the crashed plane. It's in line with the flight path.

EddyTheDog 03-12-2014 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 20013207)
The Chinese have found large pieces of something in the water, they think it may be the crashed plane. It's in line with the flight path.

Just watching that now - I'm almost disappointed - There was a 0.001% chance that the people were still alive and would have an amazing story to tell...

I expect this is it - Leave it to the Chinese to ruin a good conspiracy.....

mineistaken 03-12-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 20013207)
The Chinese have found large pieces of something in the water, they think it may be the crashed plane. It's in line with the flight path.

So what about that thing of plane changing its course?

1215 03-12-2014 04:00 PM

hijackers will blame the programmer.

mineistaken 03-12-2014 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 1215 (Post 20013228)
hijackers will blame the programmer.

shut the fuck up :upsidedow

Choopa_Pardo 03-13-2014 06:25 AM

Check out this link to get a better idea of what the search area:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...ian-air-scale/

EddyTheDog 03-13-2014 06:39 AM

The Chinese were wrong as well - Back to square one...

mrpornoporn 03-13-2014 07:00 AM

strange thing of course

DWB 03-13-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20013224)
Just watching that now - I'm almost disappointed - There was a 0.001% chance that the people were still alive and would have an amazing story to tell...

I expect this is it - Leave it to the Chinese to ruin a good conspiracy.....

Turns out they were wrong. :Oh crap

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20013226)
So what about that thing of plane changing its course?

The Malaysian military now says they didn't say they tracked it further.

This is turning into a bit of a cluster fuck.

_Richard_ 03-13-2014 08:19 AM

http://worldtruth.tv/missing-malaysi...-not-answered/

several people are reporting being able to get through to cell phones

TheDA 03-13-2014 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20013955)
http://worldtruth.tv/missing-malaysi...-not-answered/

several people are reporting being able to get through to cell phones

News that's a few days old again but I haven't seen this it answered yet, what would normally happen to each of the 19 phones in that part of the world, with the respective carriers if someone phoned them? Should you get a ringing tone or a message or what?

_Richard_ 03-13-2014 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 20013961)
News that's a few days old again but I haven't seen this it answered yet, what would normally happen to each of the 19 phones in that part of the world, with the respective carriers if someone phoned them? Should you get a ringing tone or a message or what?

the days old news was just one family, that article is now reporting several

it says 'getting through'.. so vm? ringing?

mineistaken 03-13-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20013955)
http://worldtruth.tv/missing-malaysi...-not-answered/

several people are reporting being able to get through to cell phones

Does not sound like reputable source judging from other news they have.

TheDA 03-13-2014 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20013962)
the days old news was just one family, that article is now reporting several

it says 'getting through'.. so vm? ringing?

Over here they reported 19 families, 60 hours or so ago. Different carriers and roaming services no doubt handle the calls differently.

I know that when I am in the UK and my phone is out of battery the caller doesn't get a ring tone but if I am in Europe it will ring, which is only the roaming service or carrier trying to connect.

TheSquealer 03-13-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 20013961)
News that's a few days old again but I haven't seen this it answered yet, what would normally happen to each of the 19 phones in that part of the world, with the respective carriers if someone phoned them? Should you get a ringing tone or a message or what?

Nothing happens. The ringing is the network searching for the phone. It doesn't mean the phone itself is ringing. This has been discussed extensively in the news, yet people who want to believe in retarded conspiracy theories continue to attempt to add some meaning to it.

_Richard_ 03-13-2014 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20014069)
Nothing happens. The ringing is the network searching for the phone. It doesn't mean the phone itself is ringing. This has been discussed extensively in the news, yet people who want to believe in retarded conspiracy theories continue to attempt to add some meaning to it.

does 'ringing' mean 'getting through'?

Matt 26z 03-13-2014 02:32 PM

US officials now believe the plane may have been stolen "with the intention of using it later for another purpose." They also say an engine communications system on the plane was pinging a satellite for 4-5 hours after it went missing, which pretty much rules out a crash at sea.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...34653903086282



But Malaysia says the engine did not continue communicating with the satellite....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...formation.html

SilentKnight 03-13-2014 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20014390)
US officials now believe the plane may have been stolen "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20011905)
Not to be an alarmist...but what if a hijacked airliner becomes the delivery system for a nuke somewhere?

Hoping this isn't the case...

CAHEK 03-13-2014 06:22 PM

http://www.bloomberg.com/image/iC6VnvzR3Uv4.jpg

winter_ 03-13-2014 07:22 PM

i saw on the front page of one of the national newspapers here all the id card pictures of the passengers - i think they published all the passengers faces. i just was thinking how the media got that information so fast from the airline or customs office or whatever, i would have thought they wouldn't have released that and not for a price.


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