Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19996875)

Taking bitcoin may attract more traffic to your site because of the novelty or "loyalty" from bitcoin owners. Actually joining? Anyone into bitcoins knows where good free porn and probably your sites stolen content can be viewed for free.

Originally Posted by sinclair (Post 19997962)

If you know how to generate a Bitcoin you know how to get any digital content for free and are inclined to do so.

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19997902)

So we are considering 3 options:
1) design
2) hate for bitcoin
3) combination of 1 and 2

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19998059)

Just some stats from running cam sites: the biggest cam site spenders are 40+ years old and, given the type of support emails we get from them, they barely know how to power on the PC.

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19996869)

We need both JT and PR Dave in here for an interesting debate.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19997910)

what planet did this thread just beam to?

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 19997895)

I dunno if you saw this thread, some incredible info JT shared with GFY about his promo on the tubes

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1131741

Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 19997860)

Yes JT it is me. I will hit you up later today......

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19997143)

Of course it can change ratios.
But adding one payment option can NOT discourage 50% + people from joining the site.

Like you have a payiste with steady 200 sales a day, add bitcoin option amongst others and just because of that you start getting only 100 sales.

Come on man... You can not be this stupid.

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19998227)

Yeah, i was being sarcastic. Every one seems to willfully ignore what is the most stunning bit of info in the article.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 19998408)

Don't believe everything you read.
Much of what goes on in these threads is PR as much as anythng.

The ONLY people who "know what's going on" are the people in the actual room making the actual deals. Mostly everything else is either spin or so "site specific" that the info doesn't really translate.

To ME the most interesting thing about JT's advice, especially in previous threads, is why companies currently filming content are not adjusting to what JT advises. In other words: start shooting differant content.

Ruseful's success has little to nothing to do with their tours, domains or even their 'tube strategy' (which I have many opinions on but will reserve for now). No, it's because they shoot GREAT CONTENT. They may fine tune their content for tubes and this maximizes their efforts I'm sure, but it comes down to great content presented well. Everything else is just niddling with 5-10% here and there.

Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 19997860)

Yes JT it is me. I will hit you up later today......

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19998227)

Yeah, i was being sarcastic. Every one seems to willfully ignore what is the most stunning bit of info in the article.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 19998408)

Ruseful's success has little to nothing to do with their tours, domains or even their 'tube strategy' (which I have many opinions on but will reserve for now). No, it's because they shoot GREAT CONTENT. They may fine tune their content for tubes and this maximizes their efforts I'm sure, but it comes down to great content presented well. Everything else is just niddling with 5-10% here and there.

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19998474)

As i've said many times before.. EVERY DETAIL is important. Those who act that way and spend attention on every detail and work to improve every single step or component of the process, tend to do very well. And as i demonstrated with actual math in the Shap thread... its that "5-10% here and there" that makes all the difference in the world... and the failure to understand that, is also where most tend to fail.

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 19998596)

You really do talk absolute bollocks :2 cents:



:thumbsup

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19998474)

As i've said many times before.. EVERY DETAIL is important. Those who act that way and spend attention on every detail and work to improve every single step or component of the process, tend to do very well. And as i demonstrated with actual math in the Shap thread... its that "5-10% here and there" that makes all the difference in the world... and the failure to understand that, is also where most tend to fail.

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 19998609)

"Really Useful Cash Removes Bitcoin For Lack of Value"

I'm thinking about removing the dollar for the exact same reason:2 cents:
It's a complete mess.....:helpme

Originally Posted by Ruseful (Post 19997431)

My traffic stayed consistent throughout the 7 days testing on Casting.xxx and the 24hrs on PublicAgent.com. We did not do a press release about accepting Bitcoin. So in effect, the sales ratio did worsen for this same traffic. The only difference to the user experience was having the word "Bitcoin" on my join page.

We first listed Bitcoin as a 4th pay option in the list. No icon, simply Bitcoin. After 3 days, we created a heading of "alternative payment" under the 3rd payment option. This had no effect. We removed Bitcoin from Casting.xxx and put it live on PublicAgent.com, under "alternative payment" and saw the same effects.

The reason we tested for 8 days before pulling is that we wanted to give this enough time. Believe me, I wanted to pull this after 48 hrs.

Also understand, if someone could tell me what I did wrong, and suggested a solution, I would put Bitcoin back on a site for testing.

Originally Posted by SplatterMaster (Post 19996908)

Bitcoins are associated with illegal goods. If your site accepts BC it must not be legit.

Originally Posted by woj (Post 19997213)

it smells like clever marketing, what better way to draw attention to your sites than to make some bold claim?

it's also pretty convenient that OP writes articles for a living and his site that happens to improve conversions is mentioned in the article...

this thread will probably turn into a 10-pager, and with some luck some mainstream media will also pick up on it...

well played :thumbsup

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19998685)

Suggested solution below... would love to see those results. See, as small as that logo is... I guarantee will not adversely affect the norm and opens a new audience to market to.

http://i.imgur.com/xjKeqF5.jpg

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19998474)

As i've said many times before.. EVERY DETAIL is important. Those who act that way and spend attention on every detail and work to improve every single step or component of the process, tend to do very well. And as i demonstrated with actual math in the Shap thread... its that "5-10% here and there" that makes all the difference in the world... and the failure to understand that, is also where most tend to fail.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 19998606)

Really? You think they do not shoot excellent content? Interesting.




I have also stated endlessly that EVERY DETAIL is important (and sited examples). What I'm saying is that without the foundation of excellent content you can focus on the "5-10% here and there" all you want and you will not see the success JT has achieved.

JT shoots his content with tube audiences in mind. that means he pays the talent to shoot the content HIS way based on his research. So guess what? The content is working brilliantly (congrats again JT!). So, in the end, it's not the Join forms or the Tours or the this or that (although VERY important), it's his content. Not to sound like Paul Markham here but look at other content currently being produced and displayed on the tubes for all to see and pay for - and that content is performing poorly while JT's (and mine, ahem) continue to perform exceedingly well.

We are not in disagreement here. I am simply stating where 90% of the focus should be and is: content. And not everyone has the resources to produce such content. If they DID then JT's advice would be paying off for countless companies, wouldn't it?

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19998834)

90% of the focus on content? Hmm that's a hard one. Great content is awesome but if no one sees it it's worth nothing.

Originally Posted by woj (Post 19997213)

it smells like clever marketing, what better way to draw attention to your sites than to make some bold claim?
it's also pretty convenient that OP writes articles for a living and his site that happens to improve conversions is mentioned in the article...
this thread will probably turn into a 10-pager, and with some luck some mainstream media will also pick up on it...
well played :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19998932)

Everything posted is clever marketing, but no marketing is more clever than the truth. The truth is powerful because it can be confirmed and because speaking the truth builds credibility. I write articles for sure, you won't find any false ones. WebsiteSecure.org is mentioned and you will in fact find it on every really useful site. Bitcoin was on these sites and is not on them any longer. The information in this thread is real. That makes it valuable. Clever marketing is the best way to monetize this kind of valuable information.

If you would like to see examples of the ways being certified can earn ethical sites more money, be sure to contact me. Also be sure to ask around about me. Years of cleverly marketing the truth have allowed me to build a strong reputation worthy of your trust. Thanks.

Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 19998988)

don't let your biases blind you.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comm...take_away_the/

Originally Posted by woj (Post 19998975)

I don't believe the results...

otherwise why would countless companies accept bitcoins in both mainstream and adult if it causes the conversion rates to drop significantly? they are all idiots?

Originally Posted by woj (Post 19998975)

I don't believe the results, perhaps the sites discussed are atypical in some way or perhaps it was just a fluke due to poorly designed A/B test (correctly run A/B test needs to be run concurrently, not one week of A, then one week of B) otherwise why would countless companies accept bitcoins in both mainstream and adult if it causes the conversion rates to drop significantly? they are all idiots?

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19998996)

We're small potatoes compared to JT and we get bitcoin sales with minimal marketing. So long as you cash out at the right time, it's worth it. Like I said before, I'm really, really surprised they didn't make any money at all with BTC. It honestly doesn't make sense unless it was just poorly executed. Or perhaps tube users, JT's targeted market, are just too dumb to understand Bitcoin.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19998996)

We're small potatoes compared to JT and we get bitcoin sales with minimal marketing. So long as you cash out at the right time, it's worth it. Like I said before, I'm really, really surprised they didn't make any money at all with BTC. It honestly doesn't make sense unless it was just poorly executed. Or perhaps tube users, JT's targeted market, are just too dumb to understand Bitcoin.