First Ukraine now Venezuela

[EonBlue]

http://caracaschronicles.com/2014/02/19/19f/

"Venezuela and its revolution will endure under the proven leadership of Vice President (Nicolás) Maduro." - Sean Penn

I wonder how Sean Penn feels now that the people are revolting against the "revolution". Or is he only in favour of marxist revolutions?

[_Richard_]

Sean Penn was fairly good for blowing the top off the Haitian 'charities'.. how in the world did he get caught up in the Venezuelan revolution?

[oppoten]

[Scott McD]

Shit goin down everywhere!

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

Sean Penn was fairly good for blowing the top off the Haitian 'charities'.. how in the world did he get caught up in the Venezuelan revolution?

Because he's a marxist sympathizer - along with other hollywood blowhards like Oliver Stone, Danny Glover and Naomi Campbell.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Because he's a marxist sympathizer - along with other hollywood blowhards like Oliver Stone, Danny Glover and Naomi Campbell.

he supports bailing out banks?

[wehateporn]

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

he supports bailing out banks?

Sad attempt at a joke. He supports the socialist revolution in Venezuela and now the leaders of that revolution are murdering people in the streets.

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Complete and utter bullshit. If you have nothing intelligent to add then go start a conspiracy thread and post your nonsense in there.

[CAHEK]

[crockett]

The riots in Venezuela have been going on well over a week. Probably just as long as what's been happening in Ukraine. It's just been blacked out by the Venezuelan govt. They have blocked all social media and news stations from being about to broadcast.

[LightscapeMedia]

I find it hilarious that Sean Penn advocates for governments to redistribute wealth in countries that can't touch his own wealth.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Sad attempt at a joke. He supports the socialist revolution in Venezuela and now the leaders of that revolution are murdering people in the streets.



Complete and utter bullshit. If you have nothing intelligent to add then go start a conspiracy thread and post your nonsense in there.

to clarify, you're suggesting that Sean Penn has risen up and grabbed hold of Marxist power in Venezuela

'his friends'

and my joke wasn't an attempt. just reality.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by crockett

The riots in Venezuela have been going on well over a week. Probably just as long as what's been happening in Ukraine. It's just been blacked out by the Venezuelan govt. They have blocked all social media and news stations from being about to broadcast.

Yep, and I guess it won't be long before they block the entire internet in Venezuela. Maduro is just consulting his Tyrant's Handbook to figure out his next step.

Speaking of tyrants here is a shout-out of support from one tyrant to another:

President al-Assad expresses Syria's support to President Maduro's approach in running Venezuela

[dyna mo]

I guess that almost-free gas didn't keep the peeps down.

[wehateporn]

Venezuela's President Maduro accuses Obama of fanning violence

http://rt.com/news/maduro-accuses-obama-venezuela-988/

[Rochard]

Venezuela has been slowly crashing down for some time now. They can't keep basic items in supply, such as toilet paper, businesses are shutting down because they are all over extended on credit. Citizens have to get on waiting lists just to buy new cars, and it could take two or three years... .

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...ustry/5433735/

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Venezuela's President Maduro accuses Obama of fanning violence

http://rt.com/news/maduro-accuses-obama-venezuela-988/

yes, linking an anti-american website's article about the dictator trying to shift blame to Obama, makes sense.

[klinton]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

yes, linking an anti-american website's article about the dictator trying to shift blame to Obama, makes sense.

actually is not so anti-american, whatever it means...it is just different point of view ;-)

[lonerunner]

we need to make a revolution in my country and bring down the goverment. Although we did made an revolution back i 1999 and it didnt helped other bastards more greedy and worst than previous came and destroyed us mucn more.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Because he's a marxist sympathizer - along with other hollywood blowhards like Oliver Stone, Danny Glover and Naomi Campbell.

You know I was that "Dirty Fucking Hippie" in the 1960s.

To be honest I never thought I would hear again the bullshit of redneck morons trying to devide the world up between those that kissed their asses and the proverbial ''pinko-commie-fagots" that refused to.

Redneck morons just lower the collective IQ of the planet when they talk like that.

So let me try and talk sense to you...
There is no such thing as communism or some sort of evil empire that hates your "way of life." There is only a bunch of wealthy assholes that laugh all the way to the bank at our cost. And they hold power in all the nations of the world regardless if those nations are capitalist, communist, dictatorships or religious republics.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by klinton

actually is not so anti-american, whatever it means...it is just different point of view ;-)

yes, it is. It used to not be, now it is.

And a different point of view is a dictator trying to shift attention/blame away from his government directly to Obama, no.

[wehateporn]

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

You know I was that "Dirty Fucking Hippie" in the 1960s.

To be honest I never thought I would hear again the bullshit of redneck morons trying to devide the world up between those that kissed their asses and the proverbial ''pinko-commie-fagots" that refused to.

Redneck morons just lower the collective IQ of the planet when they talk like that.

So let me try and talk sense to you...
There is no such thing as communism or some sort of evil empire that hates your "way of life." There is only a bunch of wealthy assholes that laugh all the way to the bank at our cost. And they hold power in all the nations of the world regardless if those nations are capitalist, communist, dictatorships or religious republics.

Did that little rant make you feel better? I am surprised you stopped yourself short of blaming everything on the "joooos".

Hugo Chavez and his successor Nicolas Maduro have by their very own words and actions defined their little "revolution" as a socialist/marxist one. And their results are quickly ending up the same as every other socialist/marxist revolution that has been tried before.

Please don't bother trying to "talk sense to me" because clearly you are not capable of the civil and rational discussion that would be necessary to do so.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

There is no such thing as communism or some sort of evil empire that hates your "way of life." There is only a bunch of wealthy assholes that laugh all the way to the bank at our cost. And they hold power in all the nations of the world regardless if those nations are capitalist, communist, dictatorships or religious republics.

In one sentence, you tell him that his version of an Evil Empire doesn't exist. In the next sentence, you tell your version of an Evil Empire does exist and is truly evil.

Both sides of the coin always make the same arguments and very rarely does either side realize it. Right now you will respond with some argument about how your Evil Empire is true and his Evil Empire is not, followed by a mention of me being a sheep for not believing in your Evil Empire.

It's entertaining to watch.

[deltav]

Originally Posted by Sly

In one sentence, you tell him that his version of an Evil Empire doesn't exist. In the next sentence, you tell your version of an Evil Empire does exist and is truly evil.

Both sides of the coin always make the same arguments and very rarely does either side realize it. Right now you will respond with some argument about how your Evil Empire is true and his Evil Empire is not, followed by a mention of me being a sheep for not believing in your Evil Empire.

It's entertaining to watch.

He's basically saying It's All About The Money, and that ideology is just a smokescreen to keep whatever powers-that-be in control and keep the masses divided. Sounds about right to me.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by deltav

He's basically saying It's All About The Money, and that ideology is just a smokescreen to keep whatever powers-that-be in control and keep the masses divided. Sounds about right to me.

The first half of his rant was all about redneck morons. Forgive me for not taking such a subjective, hate filled rant seriously.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by deltav

He's basically saying It's All About The Money, and that ideology is just a smokescreen to keep whatever powers-that-be in control and keep the masses divided. Sounds about right to me.

power trumps money for many many people. Not saying money doesn't matter but to simplify dictatorships down to money is not a valid explanation of what's going on.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

power trumps money for many many people. Not saying money doesn't matter but to simplify dictatorships down to money is not a valid explanation of what's going on.

i believe that's why 'The Money' is capitalized the way it is..

[deltav]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

power trumps money for many many people. Not saying money doesn't matter but to simplify dictatorships down to money is not a valid explanation of what's going on.

Yes, It's All About The Money is a figure of speech. Entrenched $$$ and power, etc.

I think notinmybackyard maybe overreacted due to "SOCIALISM!!1111" fatigue, where pretty much any progressive initiative in the US is met with that protest from people on the right who have never actually looked up the definition of socialism. In this case, Chavez & co are self-proclaimed Marxists so it actually pertains. However going from EonBlue's other posts I think he's probably used the all-caps version too.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by deltav

Yes, It's All About The Money is a figure of speech. Entrenched $$$ and power, etc.

I think notinmybackyard maybe overreacted due to "SOCIALISM!!1111" fatigue, where pretty much any progressive initiative in the US is met with that protest from people on the right who have never actually looked up the definition of socialism. In this case, Chavez & co are self-proclaimed Marxists so it actually pertains. However going from EonBlue's other posts I think he's probably used the all-caps version too.

pertains maybe.. but at this point is very much calling the kettle black. it's a silly argument

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by lonerunner

we need to make a revolution in my country and bring down the goverment. Although we did made an revolution back i 1999 and it didnt helped other bastards more greedy and worst than previous came and destroyed us mucn more.

This is why democracy works. It's not perfect, but the leader knows they have four - eight years and that's it. And if they do badly, they can be removed.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by Sly

In one sentence, you tell him that his version of an Evil Empire doesn't exist. In the next sentence, you tell your version of an Evil Empire does exist and is truly evil.

Both sides of the coin always make the same arguments and very rarely does either side realize it. Right now you will respond with some argument about how your Evil Empire is true and his Evil Empire is not, followed by a mention of me being a sheep for not believing in your Evil Empire.

It's entertaining to watch.

No I just think like that the majority of your generation are brain damaged because they probably smoked the stuffing of their tickle me Elmo dolls. Regardless the anger monkeys beating their chests have crawled out from under their rocks to try and save the world from communists and liberals again.

Originally Posted by deltav

He's basically saying It's All About The Money, and that ideology is just a smokescreen to keep whatever powers-that-be in control and keep the masses divided. Sounds about right to me.

Yup.
More than 40 years later and everything has come full circle.


Back in the 1960s I had the misfortune of knowing both Emmett Gogan (commie) and Sheldon Mitchell (Conservative). Both were assholes in their own way but at least Emmett would feed you and give you the shirt off his back. Whereas Sheldon creeped the hell out of me and he wouldn't give a man the time of day without a speech first.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

No I just think like that the majority of your generation are brain damaged because they probably smoked the stuffing of their tickle me Elmo dolls. Regardless the anger monkeys beating their chests have crawled out from under their rocks to try and save the world from communists and liberals again.