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nexcom28 · 02-10-2014, 03:45 PM

Your thought process gives me a headache.

From what I can gather you believe that God created the planets, the stars and the earth and everything on it. Evolution cannot and does not exist.

I have previously posted on gfy about my holy experience but I cannot get me head around creationism.

Sure some religious people are nut bags but in with them must be doctors, scientists, philosophers. How the fuck can they all believe than evolution is fiction?

For example, how do you explain dinosaurs?
How do you explain that these dinosaur bones pre date humans?

(I spoke to a creationist recently and she told me that in the beginning dinosaurs (and lions were friendly) - I was like, what? Even a T-Rex?

How can you ignore that evolution is a fact and proven?

NEW XTC · 02-10-2014, 03:52 PM

give up right now trying to get the nut bags to come out of the woodwork...aint gunna happen here.

oh and the prevailing theory about dinosaurs is that Noah had two of each on the Ark...not joking

If the different kinds of dinosaurs survived the Flood, then they must have come off the Ark and lived in the post-Flood world.

In the Bible, in Job 40:15?24, God describes to Job (who lived after the Flood) a great beast with which Job was familiar. This great animal, called ?behemoth,? is described as ?the chief of the ways of God,? perhaps the biggest land animal God had created. Impressively, he moved his tail like a cedar tree! Although some Bible commentaries say this may have been an elephant or hippopotamus, the description actually fits that of a dinosaur like Brachiosaurus. Elephants and hippos certainly do not have tails like cedar trees!

Actually, very few animals are singled out in the Bible for such a detailed description. Contrary to what many may think, what we know now as dinosaurs get more mention in the Scriptures than most animals! So dinosaurs?all the different kinds?must have lived alongside of people after the Flood.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/arti...-and-the-bible

Christians are a special kind of crazy

JockoHomo · 02-10-2014, 03:54 PM

"Thought process" of these jizz bags...

Mutt · 02-10-2014, 03:56 PM

MaDalton · 02-10-2014, 03:58 PM

they say the carbon dating method is flawed and simply dont accept it

Penny24Seven · 02-10-2014, 04:04 PM

what do you not understand? He built a huge ark and had 2 of every animal on it, bugs too and the fish just swam behind it, some birds flew above it and some were in the ark as well. If you saw the movie 2012 you would know an ark that big could be built. He had plenty of time to make the ark.
When the flood was over he dropped the animals off at each stop, a few here and a few there. That is how they are so spread out.
What do you not understand?

zuffa · 02-10-2014, 04:20 PM

Serious question.

Do you not at least see that both of these theories are equally implausible?

Mutt · 02-10-2014, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by zuffa

Serious question.

Do you not at least see that both of these theories are equally implausible?

Oh wise one please tell us why evolution is implausible?

zuffa · 02-10-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

Oh wise one please tell us why evolution is implausible?

Your response tells me everything I need to know. You aren't worth the debate.

Penny24Seven · 02-10-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

Oh wise one please tell us why evolution is implausible?

because it is not in the bible, lol what a silly question. Like how can the bones be there after 75 to 250 million years? How do they know carbon dating really works without being around to test it? and well Jesus told me so

Penny24Seven · 02-10-2014, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by zuffa

Your response tells me everything I need to know. You aren't worth the debate.

what about me? I wanna know

NEW XTC · 02-10-2014, 04:44 PM

what about genetic diversity - that goes out the window if you try to start fresh with only two animals - the species would mutate and die out quick, or at least be really fucked up for many generations and lose a lot of offspring...right?

oops

zuffa · 02-10-2014, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

what about me? I wanna know

You don't really want to consider any alternative except one that is as absurd as creationism. Your previous post made that clear.

But if your attention span can persist beyond 140 characters, you should read this with an open and scientific mind. It's from the mathematics department at UTEP

Penny24Seven · 02-10-2014, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NEW XTC

what about genetic diversity - that goes out the window if you try to start fresh with only two animals - the species would mutate and die out quick, or at least be really fucked up for many generations and lose a lot of offspring...right?

oops

I thought that too but I think anything before jesus didn't count. There were no messed up animals or mental problems. That didn't start until people started reading the bible

Penny24Seven · 02-10-2014, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zuffa

You don't really want to consider any alternative except one that is as absurd as creationism. Your previous post made that clear.

But if your attention span can persist beyond 140 characters, you should read this with an open and scientific mind. It's from the mathematics department at UTEP

make sure to cut the person down so you feel better about youself when you read the bible.
To be honest I love hearing both sides of the story no matter who I think does a better job at it.
I have questions for both sides and there are no answers and probably never will be either. With that said I may joke about it but I can't say you are wrong, just that I might not agree.
Is this where I come back with a witty cut down of my own? LOL

pimpmaster9000 · 02-10-2014, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zuffa

You don't really want to consider any alternative except one that is as absurd as creationism. Your previous post made that clear.

But if your attention span can persist beyond 140 characters, you should read this with an open and scientific mind. It's from the mathematics department at UTEP

please explain this with your open mind...

In 1971, ten Italian wall lizards (Podarcis sicula) were introduced to the island of Pod Mrčaru from a neighboring island. The lizards were left for decades, and compared to the colony from which they were taken. The wall lizards on Pod Mrčaru, having passed through a tiny genetic bottleneck, were found to have thrived and adapted to their new island. They were found to have shifted from a mainly insectivorous diet to one heavy in vegetation. This diet change seems to have driven dramatic changes in the lizards. The head of the Pod Mrčaru lizards is larger, and has a far greater bite force. These are key adaptations for dealing with chewing leaves. The most exciting sign of evolution is the development of cecal valves, muscles used to separate portions of the intestine. These serve to slow the passage of food through the intestine and give time for the bacteria in the gut to breakdown the plant matter for absorption. This is an entirely novel development in the Italian wall lizard, and a major adaptation.

Jel · 02-10-2014, 05:49 PM

who seriously thinks there is even 1 creationist on this board?

DAMNMAN · 02-10-2014, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

who seriously thinks there is even 1 creationist on this board?

There is and I don't know how that could be..... but....There are some seriously misguided religious assholes that visit this place.

Mutt · 02-10-2014, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by zuffa

You don't really want to consider any alternative except one that is as absurd as creationism. Your previous post made that clear.

But if your attention span can persist beyond 140 characters, you should read this with an open and scientific mind. It's from the mathematics department at UTEP

Typical 'god of the gaps' creationist foolishness, because there are gaps in scientific knowledge and theories that obviously means science has it all wrong and of course when there is mystery, the mystery can only be explained by one thing - God.

A chimpanzee and you share 98% of the same DNA in your genes, why would that be?

Can't ever win a debate with a creationist no more than you can convince a 4 year old there's not a monster under his bed.

DAMNMAN · 02-10-2014, 06:22 PM

Watch this for well thought out answers. From Bill Nye, the other guy is off his fucking rocker!!!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 02-10-2014, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zuffa

You don't really want to consider any alternative except one that is as absurd as creationism. Your previous post made that clear.

But if your attention span can persist beyond 140 characters, you should read this with an open and scientific mind. It's from the mathematics department at UTEP

Here is a critique of Sewell's position on Evolution, and which takes on Sewell's support for Intelligent Design:

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SEWELL'S THERMODYNAMIC FAILURE
By Mark Perakh

Posted January 3, 2006

The young earth creationists (YECs) used to refer to the 2nd law of thermodynamics as an allegedly insurmountable obstacle to evolution. When their critics pointed out that the 2nd law, as used by creationists, is only valid for "closed" (or "isolated") systems and therefore is not an obstacle to evolution on our planet which is an open system receiving energy input from the sun, the YECs suggested various specious arguments designed to circumvent this limitation of the 2nd law.

With time, as straightforward young earth creationism gradually retreated to such fringe outlets as Answers in Genesis, the Institute of Creation Research, and Hovind's entertainment shops (being replaced by intelligent design movement as the main anti-evolution force), reference to the 2nd law of thermodynamics has rare been heard as an anti-evolution argument.

However, this pseudo-scientific argument has not been completely abandoned by anti-evolution forces, both of YEC and ID varieties. From time to time it recrudesces in writing of this or that advocate of creationism.

One example of such a misuse of the 2nd law of thermodynamics is a recent article by professor of mathematics Granville Sewell titled "Evolution's Thermodynamic Failure."

When so great a "scientist" as Pat Buchanan endeavors to speak about evolution there is little to be surprised about when he displays ignorance -- Buchanan is a "pundit" of dubious integrity, with no credibility as far as any science is concerned, so we can't expect from him a reasonable discourse about anything scientific.

Likewise, when some of the fellows of the Discovery Institute assault evolution theory, distortions and misrepresentations are the order of the day, because that is how they earn their keep. However, when a professor of mathematics at a quality university misuses thermodynamics, one only can shrug in astonishment.

Since I am not a mathematician, I would never try discussing the quality of Sewell's mathematical publications. Perhaps he is a very good mathematician. That not for me to judge. However, having taught all parts of physics, including thermodynamics, statistical physics, physical kinetics, and other related disciplines, for over half a century, both on the undergraduate and graduate levels, I feel qualified to judge Sewell's thermodynamic exercise. I find it depressingly fallacious.

Full story here: http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Sewell.cfm

ADG

Jel · 02-10-2014, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

depressingly fallacious

yeah right - like getting a blowjob could ever be depressing

dave90210 · 02-10-2014, 08:34 PM

Why are we talking about Jesus in a porno forum?

nexcom28 · 02-11-2014, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NEW XTC

http://www.answersingenesis.org/arti...-and-the-bible

Christians are a special kind of crazy

Interesting page.

So, if I read this right. Christians believe that the Earth is only about 6000 years old, not million of years old.
They also believe that dinosaurs lived alongside humans because in the beginning all animals (lions, tigers and dinosaurs included) were commanded to eat plants only. There were no meat eaters.

In the beginning everything was perfect there was no death right up until Adam fucked Eve, by doing so everything changed and he single handedly condemned us to a life of death and wild animals. Thanks Adam.

seeandsee · 02-11-2014, 06:40 AM

god knows how he made it

02-10-2014, 03:45 PM	#1
nexcom28 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,716	Religious Creationists Inside Your thought process gives me a headache. From what I can gather you believe that God created the planets, the stars and the earth and everything on it. Evolution cannot and does not exist. I have previously posted on gfy about my holy experience but I cannot get me head around creationism. Sure some religious people are nut bags but in with them must be doctors, scientists, philosophers. How the fuck can they all believe than evolution is fiction? For example, how do you explain dinosaurs? How do you explain that these dinosaur bones pre date humans? (I spoke to a creationist recently and she told me that in the beginning dinosaurs (and lions were friendly) - I was like, what? Even a T-Rex? How can you ignore that evolution is a fact and proven?

02-10-2014, 03:52 PM	#2
NEW XTC Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 738	give up right now trying to get the nut bags to come out of the woodwork...aint gunna happen here. oh and the prevailing theory about dinosaurs is that Noah had two of each on the Ark...not joking If the different kinds of dinosaurs survived the Flood, then they must have come off the Ark and lived in the post-Flood world. In the Bible, in Job 40:15?24, God describes to Job (who lived after the Flood) a great beast with which Job was familiar. This great animal, called ?behemoth,? is described as ?the chief of the ways of God,? perhaps the biggest land animal God had created. Impressively, he moved his tail like a cedar tree! Although some Bible commentaries say this may have been an elephant or hippopotamus, the description actually fits that of a dinosaur like Brachiosaurus. Elephants and hippos certainly do not have tails like cedar trees! Actually, very few animals are singled out in the Bible for such a detailed description. Contrary to what many may think, what we know now as dinosaurs get more mention in the Scriptures than most animals! So dinosaurs?all the different kinds?must have lived alongside of people after the Flood. http://www.answersingenesis.org/arti...-and-the-bible Christians are a special kind of crazy __________________ Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

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zuffa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Mid South Posts: 78	Serious question. Do you not at least see that both of these theories are equally implausible?

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NEW XTC Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 738	what about genetic diversity - that goes out the window if you try to start fresh with only two animals - the species would mutate and die out quick, or at least be really fucked up for many generations and lose a lot of offspring...right? oops __________________ Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire Last edited by NEW XTC; 02-10-2014 at 04:45 PM..

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