Terrorist / Racial Profiling ??

[DavePlays]

Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following Multiple Choice test.

(The events are actual cuts from past history. They actually
happened! Do you remember?)


1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped
and massacred by:
a. Olga Corbitt
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwartzeneger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

3. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old
American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his
wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and ! a U.S. Navy diver
trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kid
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary, to distract attention from Wild Bill' s women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles
to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one
crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted to a crash
by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elme! r Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and! murdered by:
a. Bonny and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


Nope, ...I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?

So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 90-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, Secret Service agents who are members of! the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winning
former Governors.


POSTED WITHOUT COMMENT......

[MaxDent]

What was the target demographic for the book '911 ways to kill the infadel?'

1. Republicans
2. THE JEWS
3. Everyone in the WTC on 9//11
4. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

[St Lunatic]

Your saying cause Im brown (multiracial) I should be harrased everytime I take a flight? How is one spose to evaluate a "Muslim Male" based on skin color?

Who bombed the federal building in oklahoma?
1: White guy

Who killed people by sending bombs through the mail?
1: White guy

Who stormed the US Capital killing 2 guards?
1: White Guy

Who was responsable for the sniper shootings?
1: Black Guys

What is the profile of a typical mass murderer?
1: White Guy aged 25-40

Who is responsable for most school shooting in america?
1: Crazy White Kids


Could keep going but wont ...

[DavePlays]

Originally posted by St Lunatic
Your saying cause Im brown (multiracial) I should be harrased everytime I take a flight? How is one spose to evaluate a "Muslim Male" based on skin color?

Who bombed the federal building in oklahoma?
1: White guy

Who killed people by sending bombs through the mail?
1: White guy

Who stormed the US Capital killing 2 guards?
1: White Guy

Who was responsable for the sniper shootings?
1: Black Guys

What is the profile of a typical mass murderer?
1: White Guy aged 25-40

Who is responsable for most school shooting in america?
1: Crazy White Kids


Could keep going but wont ...

You've missed the point....

What does profiling at an airport have to do with who did a school shooting - ALL of your examples are internal matters - not international, like someone trying to fly out of New York with a bomb in their shoe.

[St Lunatic]

No I think you missed my point, How would racial profiling at US airports stop...

In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped
In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over
During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon
In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up
In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked
In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens
In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed
In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time
1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed
In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan
In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and! murdered

[JeremySF]

Let me add to this....

I probably wouldn't have used the term "racial profiling". It's a matter of profiling based on certain criteria:

age
ethnicity
religion
native country
etc.

There is NO possible way that they can search everyone at the airport. So it is ridiculous to perform a completely random search. We don't have the resources to search everyone. So given the fact that most terrorism relating to airplanes has been committed my muslim males between the ages of 18 and 35, why should we waste time searching an old black lady when we could be doing more random searches of people who are actually comitting the crimes.

Originally posted by DavePlays



You've missed the point....

What does profiling at an airport have to do with who did a school shooting - ALL of your examples are internal matters - not international, like someone trying to fly out of New York with a bomb in their shoe.

[Miss Novette]

Originally posted by St Lunatic
No I think you missed my point, How would racial profiling at US airports stop...

In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped
In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over
During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon
In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up
In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked
In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens
In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed
In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time
1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed
In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan
In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and! murdered

If I'm not mistaken, the point being made here is that profiling is better than just random harrassment of travelers.

BTW, I saw a little 7-year-old girl have to go through the random harrassment at an airport. Sucks!

[DavePlays]

Originally posted by St Lunatic
No I think you missed my point, How would racial profiling at US airports stop...

In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped
In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over
During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon
In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up
In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked
In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens
In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed
In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time
1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed
In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan
In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and! murdered

It wouldn't have stopped WW2 either but what is your point?

We ARE talking about profiling at airports - and what it CAN do, opposed to ignoring it. It's pretty obvious that it doesn't apply to everything that happened in the world since 1972.

[St Lunatic]

Originally posted by Miss Novette


If I'm not mistaken, the point being made here is that profiling is better than just random harrassment of travelers.

BTW, I saw a little 7-year-old girl have to go through the random harrassment at an airport. Sucks!

I have boarded an estamated 15-20 flights sence 9/11 and have been "randomly" searched EVERY TIME. I think racial profiling is already going on, an occasional young child or white lady are searched to try to hide the fact.

[DavePlays]

If there was a report that a white guy with blue eyes might have a bomb at an airport - would it be wrong to check all the people that fit that profile?

Well... we know for a fact that there are a lot of "Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40" that are out to get us!!


same thing.....

[St Lunatic]

Muslim is a religion not a race. To justify racial profiling by sterotyping the demographics of a religion would never be used against white people.

If you want racial profiling against brown people in airports, Your justifying searching every white kid that enters school because a small number of white kids are responsable for most school shootings.

*edited to re-word my statement+

[MaxDent]

Well, don't we all use profilling in everyday situations?

I think that the term 'racial profiling' isn't accurate, more like 'culture profilling' would be better.

"tell me, why is it that you are my only son who owns a blonde, blue eyed slave?"

"He's an actor, and not a very good one."

[nap]

Originally posted by St Lunatic
Your saying cause Im brown (multiracial) I should be harrased everytime I take a flight? How is one spose to evaluate a "Muslim Male" based on skin color?

Who bombed the federal building in oklahoma?
1: White guy

Who killed people by sending bombs through the mail?
1: White guy

Who stormed the US Capital killing 2 guards?
1: White Guy

Who was responsable for the sniper shootings?
1: Black Guys

What is the profile of a typical mass murderer?
1: White Guy aged 25-40

Who is responsable for most school shooting in america?
1: Crazy White Kids


Could keep going but wont ...

i feel what your saying, esp. about the oklahoma bombing thing but i have been profiled ever since i can remember, not because i look like a terrorists, but because i FIT THE PROFILE.

[JeremySF]

Originally posted by St Lunatic
Muslim is a religion not a race. To justify racial profiling by sterotyping the demographics of a religion would never be used against white people.

If you want racial profiling against brown people in airports, Your justifying searching every white kid that enters school because a small number of white kids are responsable for most school shootings.

*edited to re-word my statement+

I would say that if there was an outkast group of white kids that all wore black, listened to Marilyn Manson, were angst ridden, we should probably pay more attention them potentially shooting up a school than the football team.

[St Lunatic]

Originally posted by JeremySF



I would say that if there was an outkast group of white kids that all wore black, listened to Marilyn Manson, were angst ridden, we should probably pay more attention them potentially shooting up a school than the football team.

That would not be an example of "racial profiling", and that description is not accurate for the majority of school shooters. The only thing that is accurate of them is their skin color, same with the examples in the first post of this thread.

Im just saying racial profiling against one race because they fit a profile for 1 type of crime but not doing it for another race fitting a different crime is a form of racisim and discrimination.