Why are adult sites still using tables and HUGE fuck off images? - GoFuckYourself.com

TonyJ · 02-03-2014, 09:22 AM

Looking through some sponsors, and noticed atleast 80% of paysites, tours and promo galleries are still using 1970's coding..

For example, stop using photoshop to put shading and edges on your images, doubling their size...

Code:

.container .tour .column {
	box-shadow: 0px 0px 5px #000000;
}

No more excuses.

T

sandman! · 02-03-2014, 09:26 AM

fuck css long live tables

SlammedMedia · 02-03-2014, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyJ

Looking through some sponsors, and noticed atleast 80% of paysites, tours and promo galleries are still using 1970's coding..

For example, stop using photoshop to put shading and edges on your images, doubling their size...

Code:

.container .tour .column {
	box-shadow: 0px 0px 5px #000000;
}

No more excuses.

T

Just a wild guess, but I'd say not everyone has the free time to learn css.

TonyJ · 02-03-2014, 09:30 AM

C'mon, theres no excuse for developers to still be using pre-sopranos coding.

lucas131 · 02-03-2014, 09:33 AM

lol, tell that to google ... most money for me are making old html tables templates ... so, not sure what are you talking about

Ferus · 02-03-2014, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lucas131

lol, tell that to google ... most money for me are making old html tables templates ... so, not sure what are you talking about

If you want to make sure the site Work on all browsers and platforms, you should drop Table. Dont do it only for SEO.. do it for your surfers.
Sites with less code = loads faster = smaller bandwith bill = profit

FriXion · 02-03-2014, 09:36 AM

Good advice, really!

TonyJ · 02-03-2014, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus

If you want to make sure the site Work on all browsers and platforms, you should drop Table. Dont do it only for SEO.. do it for your surfers.
Sites with less code = loads faster = smaller bandwith bill = profit

Cross browser:

Code:

.gfy .tour .gfywrapper {
  -moz-box-shadow:    0px 0px 0px 5px #fff;
  -webkit-box-shadow: 0px 0px 0px 5px #fff;
  box-shadow:         0px 0px 0px 5px #fff;
}

lucas131 · 02-03-2014, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus

If you want to make sure the site Work on all browsers and platforms, you should drop Table. Dont do it only for SEO.. do it for your surfers.
Sites with less code = loads faster = smaller bandwith bill = profit

thats what i did ... i gave my programmer all my html templates with tables to make them tableless, he did, i used them a bit, but, they are nowhere close to my old good html template ... really not sure what to think about it, but thats how google works now for me, and i need to make money, so, sorry div/css, you have to wait for your time ...

Best-In-BC · 02-03-2014, 09:48 AM

tables are easy

The Porn Nerd · 02-03-2014, 09:53 AM

But that's the last time porn was making great sales so we HAVE TO code like it's 1999 dude!

WTF?

trevesty · 02-03-2014, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

But that's the last time porn was making great sales so we HAVE TO code like it's 1999 dude!

WTF?

Well played..

lucas131 · 02-03-2014, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

But that's the last time porn was making great sales so we HAVE TO code like it's 1999 dude!

WTF?

hehe lol

Ferus · 02-03-2014, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lucas131

thats what i did ... i gave my programmer all my html templates with tables to make them tableless, he did, i used them a bit, but, they are nowhere close to my old good html template ... really not sure what to think about it, but thats how google works now for me, and i need to make money, so, sorry div/css, you have to wait for your time ...

You should get a better programmer

Not to be rude or anything, but a programmer that cant position the content 100% spot-on without Table's should not be paid for that kind of Work.

Table's are for listing data. Hell - even Bootcamp/twitter uses it, and that is slowly becomming the most used design Foundation. But it only uses table's when listing data.

rsc · 02-03-2014, 10:17 AM

I'd be more worried about sites using non mobile friendly files like flv which don't play on mobile devices. At least most mobile devices will render a table based site ok.

Due · 02-03-2014, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus

You should get a better programmer

Not to be rude or anything, but a programmer that cant position the content 100% spot-on without Table's should not be paid for that kind of Work.

Table's are for listing data. Hell - even Bootcamp/twitter uses it, and that is slowly becomming the most used design Foundation. But it only uses table's when listing data.

I might be confused but shouldn't it be the designer doing the css ? I think most programmers think doing a design means putting an array into a table instead of doing print_r

Scott McD · 02-03-2014, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FriXion

Good advice, really!

Siggy too biggy !

Rochard · 02-03-2014, 10:23 AM

If you have to ask, maybe you shouldn't be in the business?

The truth is if we were to stop to redesign everything every time a new language or method of doing something came out, we would constantly be going backwards instead of moving foward. If it's online and making money, there isn't much sense in going back to redo it in another language.

Barefootsies · 02-03-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

If you have to ask, maybe you shouldn't be in the business?

The truth is if we were to stop to redesign everything every time a new language or method of doing something came out, we would constantly be going backwards instead of moving foward. If it's online and making money, there isn't much sense in going back to redo it in another language.

Exactly.

Why don't you go ask some surfers if they care about tables or CSS on pay sites and see what they tell you. I would bet most of them do not give a shit as long as the content is there, and they can navigate around it fairly simple. The rest of that yoke is just some sales pitch by those peddling their services talking about the latest greatest versus what works.

TonyJ · 02-03-2014, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

If you have to ask, maybe you shouldn't be in the business?

The truth is if we were to stop to redesign everything every time a new language or method of doing something came out, we would constantly be going backwards instead of moving foward. If it's online and making money, there isn't much sense in going back to redo it in another language.

All the sites in your signature use css/html - Maybe i'm wrong, but it seems your defending something you yourself have moved on from.

John-ACWM · 02-03-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

But that's the last time porn was making great sales so we HAVE TO code like it's 1999 dude!

WTF?

Sly · 02-03-2014, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Due

I might be confused but shouldn't it be the designer doing the css ? I think most programmers think doing a design means putting an array into a table instead of doing print_r

You need a CSS guy. I've had otherwise good designers and otherwise good programmers try creating good CSS, they usually turn out slightly above average. Get a guy that really knows CSS. Graphics guys work on graphics, programmers work on programming, CSS guys work on? CSS and related.

Ferus · 02-03-2014, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due

I might be confused but shouldn't it be the designer doing the css ? I think most programmers think doing a design means putting an array into a table instead of doing print_r

I would not have a designer (unless they were good programmers) do any CSS Work.

Colmike9 · 02-03-2014, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lucas131

... so, sorry div/css, you have to wait for your time ...

You can style tables with CSS, too. ;)

Matt Cutts also says that it doesn't really matter if you use tables vs DIVs:

The only difference, though, will be in some cases sites can load slower using tables if the tables are big because of something to do with load order that I don't remember off hand.. :/

SEs just strip all of that down into text, anyways, so it doesn't matter as long as the DIV replacements aren't f-ed up.

Sly · 02-03-2014, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

If you have to ask, maybe you shouldn't be in the business?

Being afraid of asking questions is a great way to never move forward.

badpuma · 02-03-2014, 11:05 AM

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Markul · 02-03-2014, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by badpuma

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