And this is the problem. Eight years of a Republican White House not only brought the United States to it's nears and threatened to destroy us, but also took the rest of the world with us... And you think someone can fix this in five years?

Of course the middle class is making $3500 less. We went through the largest recession since the Great Depression.

You are blaming this on Obama. This is not Obama's fault. This happened before Obama.

This isn't a five year problem. It's a ten or twenty year problem. I know you didn't see this in your country club, but people lost their houses, their jobs, their businesses, their careers.

But that's fine, you keep blaming whomever you want.

You really don't read very carefully or else I'm not communicating simply enough for you.

I didn't say Obama's OVERALL rating. He was immensely popular when he was first elected for instance.

I'm talking about his approval rating NOW. The 20th quarter of his presidency.

Here are the numbers so even you can understand how tired people are becoming of his constant promises that never come true:

The LOWEST recorded 20th quarter belongs to Richard Nixon during the height of the Watergate scandal: 28%

GW Bush was dealing with Katrina and the backlash of the Iraq war in his 20th quarter.
Obama's 20th quarter approval rating is now tied with Bush's.

Clinton, Eisenhower, and Reagan all have approximately 60% approval ratings during their 20th quarter.

If Obama continues to spiral (which the State Of The Union address may add to), he will be eyeballing Nixon next on the list (only Pres. with 2 full terms can count because they are the only ones with a 20th quarter)

Yet, the President seems to think that he does no wrong. I think that egotistic attitude plus the healthcare debacle for most of the country is what is bringing him down fast...along with what you call "non-stories" like the IRS, NSA, and Benghazi.

When you have a President who campaigned on FIXING things like the IRS, NSA, and other non-transparent govt. shadiness...and then he proceeds to do even MORE than Bush...then people have a problem with that.

It makes him feel too slick and too much of a liar for the majority to accept anymore.

Also you again (ignorantly) babbled about Bush destroying the economy.

NO. That is not what happened no matter how big you make your fonts.

The housing market collapsed. CONGRESS (you know the lifetime/career politicians on both the Republican and Democrat side) passed bills during the Clinton administration that caused a giant housing bubble.

When that collapsed in 2008...THAT is what caused the banking crisis and the worldwide economic collapse.

The fact that you still seem to be ignorant of that, even though it's been pointed out to you over and over and over...says to me that you are just trolling again.
It's fucking annoying man. Why do you do that?

You seem to be a nice person in real life. But man, behind a keyboard you seem to take pleasure in playing childish games on a message board.

Oh well, whatever floats your boat I suppose.
But it's intellectually dishonest and makes you look foolish to me.

I think he does care about white people...white people on wall street.

But small business owners and the black community? He hasn't done anything for either.

For once I agree with you. lol

William F Buckley once said what this country needs is a benevolent dictator with cancer. He may be right. lol

You said (exactly):

Pres. Obama's job approval ratings are now the lowest of any Pres. since Richard Nixon during the Watergate Scandal.

And I said that Obama's LOWEST approval is still HIGHER than the lowest approval rating of ALL presidents since Nixon. What Obama's approval rating is RIGHT NOW is pretty irrevalent being as it's higher than his lowest approval rating, and it's going to be impossible for me to determine what the approval rating was for every president over the pasty forty years for a certain period - and why.

You are cherry picking your stats - "his approval rating this quarter is lower than all of the other presidents since Nixon" - but of course not one of those presidents had to deal with a recession of this size.

The truth is Obama's lowest approval rating is still higher than all of the lowest approval ratings of all other presidents, and Obama's highest approval rating is higher than Regan's highest.

You cherry picked your stats to try to make him look bad, and you made him look good.

I don't recall him ever mentioning the IRS or the NSA while campaigning.

But these are non stories.

The IRS targeted a group of people that have a history of lieing and hiding funds - They did their job. This is exactly what the IRS is tasked to do.

The NSA? This is a non story too. The NSA has been doing this for years - it started under Bush, not Obama; It's unlikely that Obama knew much about it. And on top of all of this, NOTHING the NSA has done has proven to be illegal.

Benghazi? I still don't understand what the issue is here? Is it because we failed to act quick enough? (We could have sent in a company of US Marines into a unknown combat situation, invading another country, and potentially starting a war.) Or was it that the White House didn't want to flame the fires by calling this a terrorist attack before having all of the information? Either way it's a non story.

All three of these - and the fast & furious bullshit - is nothing more than Republicans trying to make the President look bad.

Did Obama fail on some items? Is Obamacare turning out to be horrible? Sure, sure. That's the life of politics. But it could be a lot worse - We are be running with 12% unemployment and a shrinking economy....

Take a look at the past six years - Are we better off or worse off? The answer is pretty obvious.

You are trolling.

I said EXACTLY:
"I was listening to a radio show here in Vegas that comes on in the afternoon yesterday. It's hosted by a guy named Ken Wahl. It's called "Live And Local"."

Again...you are either acting like a troll or you just didn't think about what I said.

And then I talked about MSNBC's morning show and what they said.
I didn't "cherry pick" anything. Maybe Ken Wahl, and the MSNBC crew at Morning Joe did...or maybe you are cherry picking things that try to fit your trolling argument (or whatever you're trying to achieve by what you're typing).

As for your second bit of nonsense about "not recalling" Obama campaigning on the IRS or NSA...how fucking dumb do you want to pretend to be in this conversation Richard?
You know EXACTLY what I'm talking about when I said Obama campaigned to "fix" those TYPE of things in Washington.
His 2008 campaign was all about how bad Bush and about having an administration that did things in the shadows and pulled stunts by keeping the American people in fear. He was going to change that and have (I quote him): "The most transparent administration in history"

I'm putting you on "ignore" now. I enjoy talking to you in real life. But I just don't have time for this. And you don't have the ability to make me a "single thin dime" (stole that phrase from Obama).
So I'm gonna say goodbye to your online persona now.

I don't hear a thing about working at leveling out the playing field with China.
Not a word about taxing imports at the same rate the Chinese do with what we sell there.

Price of a new Corvette in China- $245.000
http://jalopnik.com/the-new-corvette...ina-1135359468

50 yo mammas!

After 5 minutes I wanted to change the channel, he was up there saying how much he had done to improve things, like the millions of new jobs. Just more lies and then he went into how he was willing to go around Congress to get things done. Guess he doesn't care about the constitution much.
Then you see all the democrats that are now pissed at him and that MSNBC had to apologize yet again for the shit they are saying, just racial shit coming from the left
http://news.yahoo.com/republicans-de...3--sector.html

If Obama actually worked with the GOP, things would get done, moderates don't really exist anymore it seems and any bullshit little thing the GOP does is blown out of proportion by the left leaning media. They tried too hard to bury Christie about a traffic jamb. He actually has done a lot for his state!

I can't help but laugh at the Obamapologists who try to say this problem was so big that it's gonna take 20 years to sort out...

BULLSHIT.

We never even went into a recession. Much less a depression.

The housing market bubble burst. Period. Caused a domino effect on banks that held the mortgages.

This is the slowest economic recovery from a non-recession EVER. Guess whose fault that is folks?

20 years? LOL. The Great Depression didn't take that long to recover from.

Reagan inherited a REAL depression along with an OPEC induced "oil shortage" and somehow was able to work WITH the Democrat controlled House and Senate and get the country kicking ass within 2 years.

Obama himself (I saw the interview replayed on MSNBC this morning) sat down with Matt Lauer on his 2nd week in office in 2009 and said if he didn't turn the economy around in 3 years his presidency would be a "one term proposition"

And then...only a couple of months later...he pivoted to: ObamaCare
That's when I said: WTF?!?!?!?!?!
Why wasn't he focusing of the economy and jobs?

And the Obamapologists came out in droves saying that "Health Care" was hurting our economy and was crucial to "fixing" the economy because people were spending too much of their income on it.
Does nobody remember that nonsense?

And those same people on GFY are now saying: "Oh, health care costs more now? Of course it does! We all KNEW that all along".

The effect that Obama has on some of you people is just plain out insanity.
Or as Chris Matthews said: He gets a "tingle" down the inside of his leg when Obama speaks. lol

The Great Recession began as a national recession in United States in December 2007, but only met the IMF criteria for being a global recession, requiring a decline in annual real World GDP per‑capita (Purchasing Power Parity weighted), in the single calendar year 2009.

It has more impact when you use giant fonts! :1orglaugh

The "Great Recession" also known as the LESSER Recession.

It was nothing like what I saw in the late 1970's. With the gas crisis and inflation running at 11.3% and by 1980 inflation was at 13.5%
If that happened now...our country would go under all the way.

I got my drivers license in 1977. And I remember only being able to get gas on even days (according to your tag number) in Florida and waiting in lines that went down the street to try and get some.

The only people making money back then were folks who HAD money to begin with.
The interest rates were at 12% and above. I remember that very well because my grandparents had a million dollars in different bank CD's that they were getting monthly big ass checks from.

But the "normal" people were suffering hard.

Then the 1980 "real" recession happened.
"Employment conditions deteriorated throughout 1980. The unemployment rate in the U.S. , reached 10.8% in December 1982 ”higher than at any time in post-war era. , Job cutbacks were particularly severe in housing, , steel and automobiles. , By September 1982, , the jobless rate reached 10.8%. , Twelve million people were unemployed, , an increase of 4.2 million people since July 1981. , Unemployment rates for every major group reached post-war highs, , with men age 20 and over particularly hard hit."

42 banks FAILED. It was a nightmare.

By 1984 the country was pretty much completely turned around. Reagan took office in 1981. The recession was already a year old when he came in.

The policies that he and the Democrat Congress and Senate COMPROMISED on turned the country back around in 3 years and set a course for a pretty nice run of prosperity.

Pres. Obama is now in his 5th year. And his 5th year of saying that this would be the "Summer of Recovery"

At some point, people are going to have to realize that there is a reason he jumped to "Health Care" at the beginning of his Presidency instead of the economy. And that recently he tried to deflect and pivot to "Immigration Reform" instead of the economy.

In my humble opinion...it's because he doesn't have a clue.

I think Obama would have been a GREAT President if he had come in at a time of prosperity. I think going for a single pay health plan would have been awesome and he was the guy who was popular enough to have pulled it off.
Also his nudging of the social issues (pro-gay, etc.) would have been great.

But he is just the absolute wrong guy to turn the country around.

I'm of the belief, at this point, that we will see this economy bloom about a year after Obama leaves office.
He has lost the confidence of anyone with any financial clout. He has lost the confidence of the people. And he has zero chance in hell of being able to work with Congress and the Senate.

He's like the earliest "lame duck" ever.

Really? Because unemployment shot up to nearly 11% and half the houses on my block were deserted.

Call it what you want, but this is not something that is going to be fixed in four or eight years. "The middle class is worth less". Well, yes - they lost their house and every dime they had invested, and it's STILL not Obama's fault.

I got my DL in 76 and it was California

I think Obamacare has done more to hurt the economy than anyone will let on. Business's are not hiring because of the unknown, Obamacare is such a cluster fuck that business is afraid of expanding with more employee's

You know the answer to this. As long as there are big contributions from companies who make their goods in china nothing will happen.

Tony please only use giant fonts like everybody else in this thread. :1orglaugh

Remember when Harley Davidson got a special tariff on Japanese motorcycles above 750cc's so they could catch up and be successful? They ended up doing so well that they asked congress to end the tariff a head of schedule!!

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa032.html

Too bad we have idiots in the government that don't learn from past mistakes and past success's

But I wanted to hear from Rochard the answer man.

Sadly this is all I'll see from now on:
"Rochard
This message is hidden because Rochard is on your ignore list."

That's what I see too!

It's too bad. He's a nice and seemingly intelligent guy when he's not trolling a message board.

I can't, for the life of me, figure out the thrill that people get out of trolling.

I've added a few names to my ignore list too. But someone has to keep the answer man honest, so I'll not add him. But I can clearly understand why you did.