lax shooter pleads not guity... discuss...

[Grapesoda]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/26/justic...g-arraignment/

so they caught this guy red handed killing a mother fucker and trying to kill others...had to shoot the cock sucker to make him stop... how can he even plead 'not guilty'?

[Best-In-BC]

lol, You know why, its stupid question, its the way the courts work.

[Stephen]

Because this is the New America, where no one is responsible for their actions...

[dyna mo]

because in america, you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

[MrBottomTooth]

Because there's always the slight chance the prosecution / law enforcement will fuck something up and the case will be thrown out even though he is obviously guilty.

[TheSquealer]

Not guilty of the crime(s) he was charged with

[Horny Dude]

Always pissed when these criminals pull that shit. Those ones that are caught red handed on camera doing a crime and they plead not guilty, you fucking kidding me.

[dyna mo]

so video trumps the legal process these days?

[PornDiscounts-V]

5'4" and 110lbs.

[whOaKemosabe]

Discuss what?
Do you ever see anyone ever pleading guilty to charges? NO
After pre-trial he will plead guilty to lesser charges I'm sure he will still get life.

[dyna mo]

it's odd that peeps are willing to give up their individual rights in favor of video.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's odd that peeps are willing to give up their individual rights in favor of video.

What video? They didn't show shit. You know.. no security cameras recording in an Airport right?? Yet no video. You won't see video of him in court either.

[Rochard]

That's standard. They plead not guilty, and hope that they can settle to a lesser charge before going to court, or getting off due to a technicality or something.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

What video? They didn't show shit. You know.. no security cameras recording in an Airport right?? Yet no video. You won't see video of him in court either.

ok, even worse. peeps are willing to let go of their individual rights because why then? eyewitness accounts.. ? i'm not saying this guy is not guilty, but there's a reason we have a system here.

due process people. appreciate it.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

ok, even worse. peeps are willing to let go of their individual rights because why then? eyewitness accounts.. ? i'm not saying this guy is not guilty, but there's a reason we have a system here.

due process people. appreciate it.

The due process...is often broken - and in dire need of a major overhaul.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

The due process...is often broken - and in dire need of a major overhaul.

nothing's perfect, but it's insane to have porners not get that we/people have rights and to not get this guy has the right to use those rights.

slippery slope to think it's ok to not let this guy have his right as an individual, especially in 2014 with big business and the lack of government caring for or about individual rights, next is you.

it's not unlike max hardcore and the 1st amendment, i don't like his material and he's not my first choice of being a 1st amendment champion, nevertheless.

[arock10]

97% of fed cases don't make it to court due to plea bargains taken because the alternative is extremely long sentences. Due process has been dead for a while

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

ok, even worse. peeps are willing to let go of their individual rights because why then? eyewitness accounts.. ? i'm not saying this guy is not guilty, but there's a reason we have a system here.

due process people. appreciate it.

shooting a mother fucker down while said mother fucker is committing murder, have the slug pulled out of said mother fucker and matched to your gun is a bit stronger than eye witness

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by arock10

97% of fed cases don't make it to court due to plea bargains taken because the alternative is extremely long sentences. Due process has been dead for a while

you do realize a plea bargain is the defendant pleading guilty right?


Guilty pleas last year resolved 97% of all federal cases that the Justice Department prosecuted to a conclusion.

The shrinking number of federal criminal defendants choosing to go to trial is "extraordinarily troubling," said Nancy Gertner, a former federal judge appointed by President Bill Clinton and now a professor at Harvard Law School. Many basic protections guaranteed by the Bill of Rights and subsequent federal court decisions "are geared to a trial situation....."

it's unfortunate you think it's dead when it's the keystone of our judicial system. you don't get due process if you CHOOSE to plead guilty.

and that's exactly my point in bringing up due process in this thread. this individual is choosing to use the system that is afforded to all of us in the bill of rights. for people here to disagree with that is tantamount to choosing to give up personal rights.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

shooting a mother fucker down while said mother fucker is committing murder, have the slug pulled out of said mother fucker and matched to your gun is a bit stronger than eye witness

ok, it's your choice to think it's ok to give up personal rights, it's my choice not to.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

shooting a mother fucker down while said mother fucker is committing murder, have the slug pulled out of said mother fucker and matched to your gun is a bit stronger than eye witness

who gets to decide when pre-trial discovery is ok enough to override a person's right to a trial?

you?

me?

some government official?

a computer program?

a magic 8 ball?