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Black All Through 12-24-2013 07:48 AM

Mike's Viagra is called Manwin!

OldJeff 12-24-2013 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Black All Through (Post 19921343)
Mike's Viagra is called Manwin!

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adultmobile 12-24-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19920972)
Manwin hasnt purchased anything of note in quite some time either....

What, there are adult sites left worth purchasing? :)

Jman 12-24-2013 09:36 AM

This letter could have been sent by ANYONE, being that it's anonymous lost 100% of it's impact imho.

Shit if you don't like the fact your company had some struggles then GTFO, you'll look way more respectable then sending a anonymous pussy letter to Mike South.

baddog 12-24-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19921227)
it's not news.

it's an unverified anonymous letter that includes no information whatsoever.

Hey, it works for Examiner.com, Huffington and many others

Sly 12-24-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19921396)
What, there are adult sites left worth purchasing? :)

If they were buying, they would be lambasted for buying everything. If they are not buying, they get lambasted for not buying.

Funny little circle. :winkwink:

Pipecrew 12-24-2013 09:55 AM

Has nobody looked at the economics of this?

Don't they have 1200 employees? lets say you bonus everyone with an additional two weeks pay and the average person makes 45k/year. (i am just guessing out of thin air)

That's over 2 million dollars. That's boils down to an additional payroll cycle, and everyone should know, that payroll is often the biggest expense for most companies.

Not too mention, statistically, the highest turnover times for a company are right after the employees receive their bonuses.

dyna mo 12-24-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19921483)
Hey, it works for Examiner.com, Huffington and many others

i don't really hold those entities to a higher standard. or any standard for that matter.

whoever does it, it's gossip. unsubstantiated hearsay. that has nothing to do with the op claiming many readers of this thread don't read good.

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mikesouth 12-24-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19921483)
Hey, it works for Examiner.com, Huffington and many others

Works for the Washington Post and the New York Times as well, certainly you recall Watergate

JFK 12-24-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19920542)
Nice catch. Since when people started to feel entitled to get bonuses?

Right on:2 cents:

adultmobile 12-24-2013 11:04 AM

This guy wrote to MikeSouth thinking he's a Snowden/Manning, but this is not "whistleblower" material (Edit: while I reply, Mike compares this to Watergate!?). Would any real newspaper publish a letter like this in the headlines, even if it was an Apple or Google employee? No!

Even all is true, what exceptional wrongdoing or huge fail it was disclosed here?
So a company grow from 12 to 1200 people in a few years, hired hundreds of people quickly. Then figured that's too many, so fire a few and limit bonuses. We heard (or experienced) this story thousands times.

A so normal story, that the readers focused on the poor writing style, rather than its "contents". A relevant story would bomb even if wrote in cat meme language, and no one would even point out it waz writ porly.

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baddog 12-24-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19921547)
Works for the Washington Post and the New York Times as well, certainly you recall Watergate

WTF? I know I am not alone in hoping you explain how this is anything like Watergate.

dyna mo 12-24-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19921547)
Works for the Washington Post and the New York Times as well, certainly you recall Watergate

i'm just busting your chops, south. seems like you like to do that sort of thing also and i like being a mirror on gfy.

tbh, i read your blog, it's difficult at times to get past all the _i told ya so_ and _look at me_ stuff but nevertheless, i do read your writings.

that said, i don't see this anon letter as bernstein and woodward level investigative journalism.


:)

Tubevideditor 12-24-2013 11:11 AM

When the company you work for is built on piracy and theft from others in the same industry, what exactly do the employees expect?!

rogueteens 12-24-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JayAllan (Post 19920630)
I am sure that the important people that Manwin wanted to keep got taken care of. That is called business. Bonuses are just that. Extra gifts for the most important people in the profit of the company.


I'm betting that (as in most companies) the people who fucked up with their business plans and caused the "unimportant people" to loses their bonuses and increased their working days got a nice bunce.

mineistaken 12-24-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 19921283)
You seemed confused, those whose business and income were destroyed, are the ones constantly bitching and whining about what everyone else is doing.

EVERY paysite/content related business suffered (directly or indirectly by rolling snowball or falling dominos effect) from manthief's actions, no exceptions. Industry as a whole was damaged a lot.

Roald 12-24-2013 01:10 PM

100 letters

KickAssJesse 12-24-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19920565)
Perhaps, the letter is just a bit poorly written.

I agree. The employee(s) didn't highlight the importance, although, it's pretty easy to read between the lines.

ErectMedia 12-24-2013 01:15 PM

Like your job then stay. Don't like it then go somewhere else or work for yourself. Budgeting a "Bonus" as a guaranteed thing into your Christmas expenses is idiotic. Would be like counting on your lottery tickets for next weeks gas expenses. It's not income until it's in your fucking hand :2 cents:

SwirlsGirl 12-24-2013 01:18 PM

all this over x-mas bonuses?

well at least you got your payouts right?

as long as you got your pay check that you worked for you can't cry over a bonus.

That is money that is alotted to corporate wives and mistresses.

peasants do not get bonuses.

Be glad they did not suspend your last christmas paycheck

Klen 12-24-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl (Post 19921711)
all this over x-mas bonuses?

well at least you got your payouts right?

as long as you got your pay check that you worked for you can't cry over a bonus.

That is money that is alotted to corporate wives and mistresses.

peasants do not get bonuses.

Be glad they did not suspend your last christmas paycheck

You tell them

Three.Thousand 12-24-2013 05:01 PM

Read it like any other thread where a content owner is crying over content being stolen by manwin.... only difference is, this guy helped ruin the industry, and now he is surprised he is in line to be fucked.... nope, i can not feel sorry for you.

Just Alex 12-24-2013 05:44 PM

Go work somewhere else. Its not like he/she works for fortune 500 company.

livexxx 12-24-2013 07:39 PM

hAPPYY XMAS :)

baddog 12-24-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl (Post 19921711)
all this over x-mas bonuses?

well at least you got your payouts right?

as long as you got your pay check that you worked for you can't cry over a bonus.

That is money that is alotted to corporate wives and mistresses.

peasants do not get bonuses.

Be glad they did not suspend your last christmas paycheck

For once, I agree with you 100%.

I guess it is true, even a blind squirrel will find a nut once in a while.

bean-aid 12-24-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19922133)
For once, I agree with you 100%.

I guess it is true, even a blind squirrel will find a nut once in a while.

I think you want to bang her a little?

johnnyloadproductions 12-24-2013 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19922143)
I think you want to bang her a little?



After all that BBC :)

whOaKemosabe 12-24-2013 11:03 PM

112 letters

mikesouth 12-24-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19921572)
(Edit: while I reply, Mike compares this to Watergate!?).

No ya fuckin moron I point out that all investigative journalism depends on anonymous (yet reliable) sources it isn't yellow journalism as the morons I responded to implied.

jmcb420 12-24-2013 11:18 PM

My holiday bonus was that come the day after christmas, I still have my job.

I'm sure I'm not the only one.

mikesouth 12-24-2013 11:18 PM

While Im at it I may as well expand on it so the Manwin apologists have something to feel self righteous about.

If read correctly and combined with other stuff that has come out about Manwin/MindGeek the letter from the employees yesterday paints a pretty grim picture of MindGeek as a company. They had lots of layoffs (M100) back a couple months ago, more are coming, bonuses were withheld (except for course for management) Hours have been extended and of course we know more layoffs are coming. But it isn’t just Manwin Corporate, look at the porn properties they have purchased.

Playboy radio went from being a Sirius/XM Radio station to an internet radio station with a skeleton staff and no listeners.

Digital Playground once rivaled Vivid and Wicked for high end productions now they rival Brazzers at best. The company was gutted and high end features like “Pirates” and “Pirates 2″ are a thing of the past there. They continually shoot in L.A. County without condoms and are asking for trouble from that. most of the contract girls are gone and the ones that remain aren’t shooting to speak of. I’m told Jesse Jane hasnt shot since June or so. (that could be wrong but the point is she isnt shooting monthly like she was)

The quality (and the memberships) at Twistys has taken a dive and other Manwin Properties are just sitting around undeveloped.

The one area that still makes them money is Tubesites and they are now moving those to Hong Kong, at one time Hong Kong was a haven for pirate sites but that isn’t so much true anymore. The one thing Manwin does do is the old shell game, they are constantly moving companies around in and out of other countries presumably to avoid prosecution, but it’s just a matter of time until this catches up with them i expect.

The redtube merger provided some much needed cash, but what happens when they burn through that too?

The Porn Nerd 12-24-2013 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19922185)
While Im at it I may as well expand on it so the Manwin apologists have something to feel self righteous about.

If read correctly and combined with other stuff that has come out about Manwin/MindGeek the letter from the employees yesterday paints a pretty grim picture of MindGeek as a company. They had lots of layoffs (M100) back a couple months ago, more are coming, bonuses were withheld (except for course for management) Hours have been extended and of course we know more layoffs are coming. But it isn?t just Manwin Corporate, look at the porn properties they have purchased.

Playboy radio went from being a Sirius/XM Radio station to an internet radio station with a skeleton staff and no listeners.

Digital Playground once rivaled Vivid and Wicked for high end productions now they rival Brazzers at best. The company was gutted and high end features like ?Pirates? and ?Pirates 2″ are a thing of the past there. They continually shoot in L.A. County without condoms and are asking for trouble from that. most of the contract girls are gone and the ones that remain aren?t shooting to speak of. I?m told Jesse Jane hasnt shot since June or so. (that could be wrong but the point is she isnt shooting monthly like she was)

The quality (and the memberships) at Twistys has taken a dive and other Manwin Properties are just sitting around undeveloped.

The one area that still makes them money is Tubesites and they are now moving those to Hong Kong, at one time Hong Kong was a haven for pirate sites but that isn?t so much true anymore. The one thing Manwin does do is the old shell game, they are constantly moving companies around in and out of other countries presumably to avoid prosecution, but it?s just a matter of time until this catches up with them i expect.

The redtube merger provided some much needed cash, but what happens when they burn through that too?

Merry Christmas Mike.

The problem I have with Mind Geek is the problem I have with many major corporations. I have friends who work there and so I worry for them, for their future, but like with many such corporate entities the mid-level or lower-level employees rarely, if ever, know what's really going on in upper management. In fact, I'm guessing much of "upper-management" doesn't know what the heck is really really going on half the time.

Corporations do what they have to do to survive, grow, dominate and exploit, regardless if it's Mind Geek or Wal-Mart. It's the problem I have with every giant money-eating machine. LOL I do hope there's room still, in the future, for "little guys" like me. I don't want to be gobbled up or run over by the steamroller that is Corporate Earth.

Oh yeah - Peace On Earth, Good Will Towards Man and all that shite. :smilie_we

mikesouth 12-25-2013 01:39 AM

I think when it all shakes out what we will see in hindsight is a Manwin implosion that isnt unlike so many others that have happened in adult internet. They came into a lot of money so they started swinging their dicks around and ended up getting into too many things they didn't know enough about.

If you take piracy and tubesites out of the equation would anyone actually look at them and say that they have been successful?

I even believe that the piracy/tubesite run is going to shakeout from here hopefully the whole Manwin bubble will burst and take all of the Manwin associated parasites with it leaving a vacuum that can be filled by good honest pornographers.

Thats my Christmas wish anyway...

Nurgle 12-25-2013 05:43 AM

maybe he should just find a new job if he dont like it.. ohh wait if he did that then poor Mike would have nothing to write about

OldJeff 12-25-2013 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19921695)
EVERY paysite/content related business suffered (directly or indirectly by rolling snowball or falling dominos effect) from manthief's actions, no exceptions. Industry as a whole was damaged a lot.

Uh, nope, no they didn't, but you are free to continue blaming your own business failures on them.

And for the record I am not a Manwin apologist, I am a Manwin "notgiveafuckist" since I know how to make money in the post Manwinacopolyst

Red Ezra 12-25-2013 06:24 AM

I'm going to rate this thread as a one star. let's step it up people or I'm not going to give out any bonus stars this year for Christmas!

L-Pink 12-25-2013 10:35 AM

You work for thieves and assholes. I hope your work life is as miserable as possible with reductions in benefits, lower pay, no job security. Merry Christmas!

mineistaken 12-25-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 19922338)
Uh, nope, no they didn't, but you are free to continue blaming your own business failures on them.

And for the record I am not a Manwin apologist, I am a Manwin "notgiveafuckist" since I know how to make money in the post Manwinacopolyst

They did - stolen full length free videos took away some people who used to pay for porn. Its a simple fact. Whole pie of signup money got smaller.
If your revenue did not get smaller it does not mean that did not affect your business it means that you worked smarter to sustain the revenue. And with same amount of smart work and without tubes you would have made even more.
Bottom line you would have made more than you actually made if manthief tubes did not happen. Thats as simple as it gets and its delusional to try denying it.

adultmobile 12-25-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19922243)
Manwin implosion ... the piracy/tubesite run is going to shakeout from here hopefully the whole Manwin bubble will burst and take all of the Manwin associated parasites with it...

Let's say that manwin/mindgeet "implodes" as a company, everyone fired. Then xhamster, xvideos etc. would buy the pornhub etc. sites (or at least domain names) and no change would be noticed by the free suerfers. Same lots of free videos available for free.

Casca Grossa 12-27-2013 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 19921283)
You seemed confused, those whose business and income were destroyed, are the ones constantly bitching and whining about what everyone else is doing.

So true.


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