Bryan G

Waiting for "Wehateporn" to comment on this....LOL

http://www.quickmeme.com/p/3vqjb0

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Matyko

not bad.
vaccines is a tough topic..
we accept the 'must have' ones but dont do the optional ones.
here in hungary the must-list is way bigger than the EU average btw...

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Vendzilla

I read it and while I made sure my daughter got all her shots, I have to say that no one knows for sure what causes autism. So far scientist only have theories.

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think about that

wehateporn

That was a hired shill who replied, I've seen enough of them over the years to recognize the standard lines they use, when you debate such shills it always turns out that they know little on the topic, they just pretend to

Watch for a few minutes from 17 Minutes 55 Seconds



If you have any questions on this important topic (e.g. on specific vaccines/diseases) I'm happy to help out

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wehateporn

Dr Peter Fletcher, former UK Chief Scientific Officer at the Department of Health said

"it is the steady accumulation of evidence, from a number of respected universities, teaching hospitals and laboratories around the world, that matters here. There's far too much to ignore. Yet government health authorities are, it seems, more than happy to do so."

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"the refusal by governments to evaluate the risks properly will make this one of the greatest scandals in medical history"

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"There are very powerful people in positions of great authority in Britain and elsewhere who have staked their reputations and careers on the safety of MMR and they are willing to do almost anything to protect themselves."

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"Clinical and scientific data is steadily accumulating that the live measles virus in MMR can cause brain, gut and immune system damage in a subset of vulnerable children,"

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wehateporn

That's the line they give when the truth will cause problems for their industry. There's plenty of evidence that it's vaccines which cause healthy children to regress into Autism, even the CDC meetings (released under Freedom of Information) show that they know it's vaccines, but they don't want us to know.

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Bryan G

Do you have children?

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wehateporn

Hepatitis B Vaccine Triples the Risk of Autism in Infant Boys

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-..._b_289288.html

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Acetaminophen (paracetamol) use, measles-mumps-rubella vaccination, and autistic disorder

http://aut.sagepub.com/content/12/3/293.abstract

http://www.altmedrev.com/publications/14/4/364.pdf

"Compared to controls, children ages 1-5 years with autism were eight times more likely to have gotten sick after the MMR vaccine, and were six times more likely to have taken acetaminophen."

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"Children who receive the entire 3-shot series of Hepatitis B Vaccine have a 9x higher rate of developmental disabilities than unvaccinated children."

Hepatitis B triple series vaccine and developmental disability in US children aged 1-9 years Toxicological and Environmental Chemistry, September 2008

http://www.fourteenstudies.org/pdf/hep_b.pdf

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A Case Control Study of Mercury Burden in Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder. Journal of American Physicians and Surgeon, 2003. James Adams, PhD [Arizona State University].

http://www.generationrescue.org/pdf/bradstreet.pdf

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wehateporn

Why would that be relevant as to whether vaccines are good, bad or somewhere in between, it doesn't come into the logic.

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wehateporn

Big Pharma make money from you getting a lifelong disease which leaves you hooked on their drugs, this is what vaccines are for, they are an attempt to disrupt your immune system and leave you with lifelong autoimmune diseases and allergies (Diabetes Type 1, Asthma etc) which make you into a very good customer.

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Kolargol

18 children die every hour because of measles. Measles vaccination resulted in a 71% drop in measles deaths between 2000 and 2011 worldwide.

Bryan G

I am asking because if you did, would you not want them vaccinated? Obviously your answer will be no.

Anyhow, I just had a daughter and she is getting vaccinated.

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wehateporn

Self-Organized Criticality Theory of Autoimmunity
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:...l.pone.0008382

Conclusions/Significance

"Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host's immune ?system? by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system's self-organized criticality."


Study explained below:-
PLOS Study: Vaccinations Inevitably Cause Autoimmune Diseases
http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/201...es-plos-study/

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geedub

Is it wrong that the scarf always made me assume you were homosexual? No hate/troll, that's the fucking truth Bryan G.

Bryan G

No just stupid, congrats

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Vendzilla

Congrats Bryan, it's a great feeling ain't it?

My daughter changed my world. Yes, she will get the vaccinations, here in the US they have to before they allowed in school and the schools have to keep track of them. When she went in the military, just like me, she got even more of them, some days my arms hurt a lot from all those shots!

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think about that

kristin

We have two boys, ages 8 & 9. They have had their general shots that get them into Kindergarten but that's it and I don't fully agree with all of those either.

Hepatitis C, really? Also, giving a 12 year old girl an HPV shot is reeeeeeediculous. The long term effects are unknown and what's currently being shown as results is not positive for the drug makers. Pharmacies and insurance companies make the money on vaccines, they aren't there to protect your children.

Flu shots? Not needed ... let your kid get the flu, it will build their immune system.

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96ukssob

That is great. Just shows how uneducated idiots, like some here (not to point anyone out...) base their logic from something written that has no facts behind it.

For instance, if you are pregnant and drink a glass of mercury each day, then you have a higher likelihood of your child having a developmental disorder. But oh, vaccines have mercury, so they cause developmental disorder too!

Regardless of the half-wit notions, it still comes down to there is not a single, 100% safe treatment for anything. Have you looked at the side effects of OTC drugs? What's more important to you, having your child die a slow death because you want to prove to your conspiracy theory friends that you are tough, or giving them vaccinations that will prevent against these serious diseases with an extremely low risk of side effects.

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wehateporn

The vaccines are not safe, it makes me very sad to know of any child having their life and health risked to one of Big Pharma's untested vaccines. These are unethical companies, you wouldn't trust a babysitter who had a criminal record, so why would anyone trust these companies with the health of their children, especially when Big Pharma have such a huge conflict of interest i.e. if they give your child a lifelong disease they profit

While I may not be able to talk you out of vaccinating your child, I will give you tips as to how to reduce the risk of your daughter being harmed by vaccines:-

1. Never allow more than 1 vaccine per month
2. Do not vaccinate before age 2 to avoid the risk of Crib Death
3. Never use Tylenol (aka Paracetamol) around the time of vaccination
4. Never vaccinate your child when they are sick.
5. Avoid newborn Hep B vaccine (particularly high risk, only relevant for drugs users and prostitutes)
6. Avoid DPT (one of the most dangerous vaccines)
7. Avoid MMR (too high risk, go for a single Measles if you must)
8. Skip on silly vaccines like Hib which are known to have more risk than potential benefit (this vaccine is behind the rise in Diabetes Type 1)
9. Never vaccinate a child who is not well nourished.

If you take all that onboard, there is still a risk, but it will be dramatically reduced.

The website below has some good advice for those who want to stick to a safer vaccine schedule
http://www.smartvax.com/

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geedub

congrats on your daughter.

Bryan G

I agree with you, I am not talking about every single shot one can be given. I am referring to the basic shots they get around 3 months old.

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Bryan G

Thanks Buddy :-)

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Vendzilla

I agree with not getting flu shots. I got the shot once and got the flu a few weeks later. Normally I don't get the flu!

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think about that

wehateporn

Consuming a substance orally should not be compared with having the substance injected.

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wehateporn

Good points Kristin, the HPV is a particularly dangerous shot, it sells over $1 Billion per year but is not backed up by good science

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Vacine cures people fro shit they are design for, but on other side poison them with lots of shit

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wehateporn

Measles is perfectly safe in healthy well-nourished individuals, more specifically it's about having enough Vitamin A to fight it. Our immune system can do it's job just fine, but Big Pharma want to sell us an immune system so they have propaganda/marketing to sell their products, they use fearmongering and misinformation to make the sale.

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Sly

In other words? in a perfect world, people don't die.

Agreed!

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wehateporn

In theory if the vaccines were made safety by good honest scientists there could be some value, unfortunately they're currently being used a way of disrupting and permanently injuring our immune system to increase the size of the Big Pharma market.

These are the last people you should trust with your health, they have a vested interest in harming you

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kristin

Did the hospital give your newborn a hep c shot? I remember that one of my friend's declined it but the hospital pressured it so much, even threatened to call Child Protective Services.

I'm not sure how the Canadian healthcare system handles shots, but in the US you are very pressured to get them all. Scare tactic for sure.

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wehateporn

Single Measles vaccines have been shown to have a postive risk/benefit ratio in the malnourished Third World, so that's one vaccine which I do agree with (for the Third World). However DPT jabs in the Third World are known to decrease life expectancy, this goes to show that every vaccine needs to be studied carefully on an individual basis, unfortunately they are not.

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wehateporn

Sometimes they even jab them up when you're out of the room

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Vendzilla

I don't remember my daughter getting any shot, but then that was 25 years ago.
I know they gave some options, but there was a list that every child had to get before being allowed in school.
I'm sure things have changed

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think about that

wehateporn

I've provided information for any curious minds who are looking for both sides of the story, allowing informed consent. I can't invest much more time in this, but I'll leave you with this excellent video from Dr Tenpenny, she's spent many years studying vaccine research papers, in this video she goes through each one of the childhood vaccines and assesses the risk against the benefit. While it is a long video it's well worth watching so as if you do decide to vaccinate your child you can know it was an informed decision.

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Bryan G

No she did not get a hep c shot, she only got her basic shots at 3 months old. There was no pressure at all. That said I did not decline the shot, so I dunno.

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wehateporn

1991 was the year when USA introduced Hep B jabs for children

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wehateporn

In Canada the schedules vary from province to province

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Jel

this thread is full of lofl

NewNick

You fucking idiot.

Did you really say that ?

"watch this and if you do decide to vaccinate your child you can know it was an informed decision".

So a youtube clip suggested by a raging conspiracy loon is going to give me all the facts ?


In Germany it is illegal to deny the holocaust. Not just frowned upon, but actually a felony offense. Now you might say that is a bit severe, free speech and all that, but the more I see the nasty harmful shit that you post, the more I am starting to see that completely free speech can actually be dangerous. Some regulation has its benefits. You are not deserving of the privilege of free speech.

The stuff you posted about the school massacre kids still being alive was particularly unpleasant, you are clearly lacking in any kind of empathy to the parents. You are no better than those wackos that protest at funerals.

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Come back with a real nick and a less obvious troll attempt

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TheSquealer

I would modify this by saying that neuroscientists have no real agreement on what autism is in terms of neurophysiology, much less, the cause(a). As i understand from quite a bit if reading that addresses autism, the possible areas of the brain that are affected as well as the conscious experience of the autistic individual, it is a very complicated disease that of course exists in a very wide spectrum of degrees with those areas of the brain being affected in combinations of different degrees.

For a fucking moron like wehateporn to say anything about a brain disorder which neuroscientists worldwide, have yet to fully grasp and understand is idiotic at best.

Paul&John

https://youtube.com/watch?v=RLcOz4EKrxg

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JFK

Congrats !!

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Its not particularly nice watching your new baby get vaccinated however I, as I am sure the vast majority of parents believe it's necessary. The risk of problems caused by vaccination are minute compared to the dangers of not getting the vaccination in the first place.

At 2 months your baby is given a 5 in one dose which protects against diptheria, whooping cough and polio amongst others.

At 3 months the child is given a topup which protects the above plus meningitas C

At one year old they are given the MMR jab which protects against measles, mumps and rubella.

I, as have all my friends and everyone I know taken our children to the doctors for these injections and I am not aware of a single case of it causing anything more than a slight temperature.

I don't know a great deal about the viruses that these injections protect us all from but I am pretty sure, cos I am not stupid that the consequences of picking up one of these viruses would be a whole lot worse than any risk by not having them.

96ukssob

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Matyko

Exactly the Same Here, w girls aged 3 and 6. I totally agree with every single word you wrote Kristin

Your last sentence summarizes the topic pretty fukkin well, congrats!

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jigg

I haven't had shots since I was an infant. Had the flu 2 maximum 3 times in the last 14 years

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