You believe this is about "liberating" the Iraqi people?

Manipulators (governments) are very happy you exist, masses are easy to control and its simple to feed them with bogus information - you are a good example of this process.

How could anyone take anything serious to heart on a board named Go Fuck Yourself?

Fuck its 5AM, back to the spaceship I go. You people on Planet Earth have much to learn.

Whether or not it's about liberating the Iraqi people that is what's going to happen.

wait for meeee.....

Like in Afghanistan?
The people of Afghanistan still face the same problems they had before the US led coalition "liberated" them from the Taliban.

If that is what you call liberating people - I do not want to be liberated.

Uh, things may not be perfect but they have improved a bit. changes take time. I wouldn't wish living under the Taliban for my worst enemies. However if you would prefer Taliban rule that would be your choice of course...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,8542,596125,00.html

Whether they want it or not, right? :1orglaugh

dude he's a politician...
Indeed he helped a lot , without him the internet would not be where it is today but THE INTERNET WAS INVENTED AT CERN.
http://wwwinfo.cern.ch/pdp/ns/ben/TCPHIST.html

1. Your government, through supporting the Mujahadeen (Islamic fanatics) in their war with the Russians was instrumental in bringing about Taliban rule in Afghanistan.

2. Your government gave the Taliban money, and lots of it, and supported them in many ways (including saying nice things about them) from 1996 to 2001 even though they were repressing and murdering their own people.

you're hopeless...

Did you actually read that article? CERN was where the web was initially developed not the internet. The internet was developed by many groups in many different places.

www != internet

Your hatred for the US is clouding your thinking. I was speaking DIRECTLY with ControlThy, SPECIFICALLY about the Taliban.

What don't you understand about that? If you've noticed lately I have been responding to posts but not talking about the US per se. I know where you stand and you know where I stand. Let's bury it. We aren't going to change eachother's point of view.

However if you wanna keep posting off topic I'll try and respond to keep you happy... Bottoms up friend.

1. The Taliban didn't come to power until years after the the Soviets left Afganistan.

2. Evidence?

Joe is an anti-american leftist. The kind that spits in our face, but the second they need help come begging us for it.


We also supported Stalin. Sometimes you gotta pick the lesser of two evils. The Northern Alliance arent exactly great guys either, just not quite as bad.

flashfreak, my comment is American humor which went right over your head, sorry about that. Everyone knows that human tree didn't invent the internet.

I'll include footnotes from now on.

i.e., *political humor, or **this is just a joke(don't freak out)

It's not quite registering is it?

Why did the Taliban come to power? What happened in Afghanistan after soviet troops withdrew? What happened to the power vacuum?

I don't recall Australia asking for your help lately?

But what happened when you asked us to help you fight the Vietnam War? We HELPED you. What happened when you asked us to help in the Gulf War? We HELPED you. What happened when you asked us (well our government) to help you fight Saddam this time? Well... our troops are over in the Middle East. So I guess we HELPED you again.

Sorry, can you remind me when you HELPED us?

simple question joe: do you support communism y/n

ahahaah gotta love that logic.

No. Do you?

100

No, but you must. Since you sit on your high horse and poo poo on every decision that was made in the cold war. A war we won btw.

If you had your way, all of europe and asia would be communist.

Can you tell me what exactly is wrong with being a communist?

Are you under the illusion you live in a democracy?

Perhaps its not registering because you're not making sense.

Nice dodge from providing any of the evidence I asked you for.

I'm just saying Australia supported your sorry fucking imperialist arse when you asked. There aren't many Australians who think your country would do the same for us.

And no, I don't like communism. However, I think Marxist principles have some value in the third world.

Good god, every heard of Yahoo and some common fucking sense?

http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq2.html#6

Do you speak Japanese?

What evidence do you want?

What sources would you deem acceptable?

Maybe you should just go to www.google.com and type in "the rise of the Taliban" and go from there. You do have a brain don't you? Now off you go like a good boy and do your own research.

I live in a Constitutional Judicial Democratic Confederate Republic - or something like that. You?

Oh shit, here comes Colin.

We fought the Japanese just as hard as you did in World War 2. We were bombed by the Japanese. We had Japanese midget submarines in Sydney Harbour.

Maybe you should scrub up on your modern history?

Nice try, but that article doesn't really support his claim that the US was giving tons of money to the Taliban between 1996 and 2001. In fact it seems to say that support started to dry up in 1996.

For those that don't understand American pornographers that vote Republican, it is because of economic philosophy, not social.

You can see from the following that nearly all of us are libertarian in social views.

Most Libertarian
-8.82 cluck
-8.51 DannyC
-6.51 Lily
-6.41 Gutterboy
-5.59 DJSap
-5.28 scoreman
-5.23 JoeSixpack
-5.18 titmowse
-4.87 Colin
-4.87 tygergoddess
-4.77 imJason
-4.62 freeadultcontent
-4.46 Thumbelina
-4.41 DarkBob
-4.31 MonkeyMan
-4.15 Butrflied
-4.10 HOAX
-4.10 ThePornDude
-4.00 Schwick
-3.49 JeremySF
-3.44 Voodoo
-3.28 smack
-3.28 Shianna
-3.23 galleryseek
-3.13 steffie
-3.08 JFK
-2.97 tala
-2.92 Wilbo
-2.77 DyannaDoes
-2.67 LudeDude
-1.90 TeenGodFather
-1.69 JennyFromTheBlock
-1.44 Troels
-1.28 FatPad
-0.56 SCJason
-0.05 dantheman
0.00 12clicks
0.15 MissNovette
0.56 SweetT
0.72 genomega
0.97 DX
1.64 rooster

Much more split on economic views:

Most Right Economically
6.62 SweetT
4.50 DJSap
3.50 genomega
3.25 rooster
3.0 JeremySF
3.00 12clicks
2.75 Troels
2.25 LudeDude
2.25 Colin
2.12 DyannaDoes
1.88 steffie
1.75 MissNovette
1.75 FatPad
1.62 SCJason
0.25 DX
0.12 dantheman
-0.25 Wilbo
-0.75 tala
-1.88 DarkBob
-2.00 galleryseek
-2.00 Shianna
-2.12 scoreman
-2.25 Thumbelina
-2.62 freeadultcontent
-2.62 TeenGodFather
-2.88 ThePornDude
-2.88 tygergoddess
-3.25 imJason
-3.75 Voodoo
-3.75 smack
-4.25 Butrflied
-4.38 HOAX
-4.50 Lily
-4.75 Schwick
-4.75 MonkeyMan
-5.00 JennyFromTheBlock
-5.00 Gutterboy
-5.12 JFK
-5.62 JoeSixpack
-5.62 titmowse
-7.75 cluck
-7.88 DannyC

At least some of those on the right economically vote Republican.

You can obtain info for the test that produced these results here:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=112596

It's 6 am here - too early to try and make me your bitch. Let me have a cup of coffee first.

Gee, you're awfully defenisive about that that request I made. I don't think the way I asked for it was particularly confrontational. I was curious where you learned what you had asserted. Where did I say that ANY source would not be acceptable? You made the statement so the onus falls upon you to back it up (atleast to some meager degree).

"Can you tell me what exactly is wrong with being a communist? "

Other than it has pretty much failed. And most people that still live under communist regimes would probably not be sad to see it go.


"Are you under the illusion you live in a democracy?"


We have a bastardized socialism. True socilism cant work here because when it comes down to it, most people dont want it. The only way for socialism to work is to keep it efficient and hold people accountable for their actions, and that will never happen.

And people here would never go for facism because they are so used to having pretty broad freedom. And political views are too evenly split.

I think you give the smacktards on here more credit than you should.

The vast vast majority of the neo-patriots on here are just towing the party line and wouldnt know the difference between political parties and ideologies if you gave them a basic poli sci quiz.

Case in point, asking if someone is a communist because they dont agree with American imperialism. Is it the 1950s?

Joe,

Totally right about that, man. The US should have stepped up on East Timor. [We agreed for once.] Understandable why Australians would feel that way.

That and Fox and Friends is on now, cant concentrate... must soak in the mornings propaganda.

I never said you didn't fight the Japanese. You asked when the US had helped Australia. I'm not saying that the US "saved Australia" all by itself, don't put words in my mouth.