no. It's just that the reason I became a libertarian is that I realized that I myself was defending things that I did not actually believe in, simply to blindly support one "tribe" over the other, (and the tribe changed a couple of times over my life), rather than stick with the things I knew were correct no matter which tribe espoused them. I feel that it's important to try to get people to think about what they REALLY believe and want in the world, rather than blindly play out this "our tribe vs the other tribe" mentality.


.:2 cents:

Nonsense.

Wind-whipped Superior wildfire grows to 2,100 acres as firefighters pulled

those aren't mutually exclusive. lolz

but that's not what happened here nor what i was referring.

dude posted this:


your libertarian retort to that:

When a lie is big enough people will believe it..

Same claim was made on the other buildings. But if you watch videos carefully, the debris at freefall outside the buildings falling core also fell faster. That's why no serious architects or engineers no longer are on the case.

NIST ?:helpme

As with operation Ajax in 1953
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/coup53/coup53p1.php


National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudi.../faqs_wtc7.cfm

Freefall is not about speed, it's about acceleration, so just because some debris is falling faster does not imply that the building did not fall at freefall. The debris started falling first, though it had the same freefall acceleration it had been falling for longer so had reached a higher speed, that's what you're seeing.



There are thousands on the case, the number is growing every day. You would need to back up such a statement with a source otherwise people will think you've simply made it up.

Just because firefighters can be 'pulled' does not mean that buildings are not also 'pulled', if you listen to Silverstein it's clear he was talking about the building, otherwise he would have said 'Pull Them' NOT 'Pull It'

Why did it not disintegrate into fine dust? :upsidedow

This is too much explaining, imho :)
When I watched that video by Silverstein and when he said "they decided to pull" I without a doubt thought he was talking about pulling firefighting operation (because they thought they may not contain in + they did not want to lose more people).
Or is it only me who clearly understood that? Maybe its because I am not native English speaker and native speakers know other meanings, but for me it was clear that he was talking about pulling the firefighting operation. :2 cents:

Now that's a fire. https://youtube.com/watch?v=th2bnG_7UyY

this plus the fact there was not a single blasting cap or wire found.

PS wehateporn is a fucking weirdo.

And what deception was going on there?