Fitty shady deals :disgust

Or did I say that backwards?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I would not trust TheButcher with a single cent. I am sure there are many more in the same position.

Saying you are going to do something doesn't really prove much does it? You don't sound to clever, better watch what you get yourself into.

As long as we are recklessly tossing out accusations without any proof .....

Perhaps the OP refused to provide his name and address because this information would have revealed him as being someone else.

It would be ironic, given the direction the topic detoured down.

Magnetron,

Do a search for thebutcher here or at greenguys or Oprano and you will find numerous threads where evidence was presented as to what Damien is saying.

Or you can ignore the evidence and keep your head up thebutcher's ass. Your choice.

just my :2 cents:

P.S. Btw, I saw what you did on your visitor messages in your profile. I am sure you think you are cute but please remember that turnabout is fair play. :thumbsup







I never get even, I always get way the fuck ahead.

Well, like I said, "he looks" like a good guy. I could be wrong, tho. I don't know him personally.

Just saying what I see in his forum, he helps people, never seen him being irrespectful, etc... You get the picture.

Sure, he could make mistakes, like anyone in this business.

Not trying to defend him or anything, just sayin...

As for his forum, yeah some nicks do look "Fake" as well as some responses there, but I also see some guys from this forum posting there... For example, Magnetron or Colmike...

Actually, we are fakes nicks of his as well.

You should already know that, considering you are one.

:upsidedow

Dear Sarretah,

You failed to point out where I insisted that Damien was saying something untrue.

Probably because I didn't.

I was just adding some perspective to his original comments.

p.s. You are a moron

This is the same CUNT who invited me to join his board, saying it would be nice to have a couple resident hosting guys to answer questions ....

For the next 2 weeks he kept messaging me - asking me to buy way-overpriced advertising packages - and when I declined, he closed my account on his board....

Avoid this twatwaffle at all costs!! :321GFY

the butcher = known bullshitter & scammer. No offence Magnetron, but you haven't been around long enough to have gone through the whole exposing of him as such. I'd say any real users he actually has these days on his forum are also new, relatively speaking, and also are unaware of his past.

A bit like me speaking with any authority on ibill - I wasn't around at the time, or if I was, was pretty new, so I defer to people who actually know the facts about them. If they came here now (as I believe they did not too long ago) and seemed great guys, that wouldn't mean I could trust them even a single tiny bit :2 cents:

So take it from those who have been around a little while longer - the bloke is as has been stated in this thread, make no mistake on that :)

whaddup FF, hope you are well mate :thumbsup

For future reference if you need to pay someone via paypal, don't have a paypal account and live in the US. Go buy a moneypak/greendot card and deposit the amount on it and send them the code and they can load the funds on to their account. An easy way to get paid as well by those that don't have one either and there's no worries about being scammed. You also don't get hit with the fees.

Also never send anything before echeck is cleared.. Paypal even tells you this on the transaction.

Jel, I do appreciate you taking the time to educate me on the subject. Thanks. However, I will continue to judge him based on his actions nowadays. I'm not one for living in the past like Paul Markham.

this thread and the subject matter is 'in the past'?

Right here and now, it is the OP's word versus Butcher's regarding a private matter made public.

So, you have decided to keep your head up thebutcher's ass then.

Okey doke.

.

p.s.s. You are still a moron.

could magnetron be one of Butcher's alter egos? Hmmmm ....

lol, Magnetron is definitely not TheButcher.. :2 cents:

(No, I'm not secretly one of his buddies, either. I just like posting on boards and there aren't many left..)

It would be if not all those stories about same canceling payment behavior in the past. So now its like 99% of OP word versus 1% of butcher word :)

And you still have your head up thebutcher's ass.

Nanny nanny boo boo.





No tag backs.

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a good reason not to use paypal for the sale of domains.. too easy to have them file a dispute etc

twatwaffle... love it.. im stealing that one!

No, but the Butcher could be one of mine.

Hmmmm .......

Me too.

And thankfully there is more to the adult arena beyond the walls of GFY.

you sounds like an asshole. :thumbsup

Liking diversity that multiple forums provide makes me an asshole.

LOL

Where do you think some of the GFY posters went during the backlash over skins and advertising back in 2008?

Oh, sorry to bring that up that period of controversy when the reputation of this place had sunk as low as SponsorC in its early days.

Would everyone please dismount their high horses in an orderly fashion and make your way to the nearest exit.

I might have registered here in June of 2013, but I've been around for the last 12 years reading on and off.

This thread has the most fake nicks ever lol

Right?


:Oh crap:Oh crap:Oh crap

Not many Adult Forums left.

The Pond vanished completely.

The older forum of Damage X closed down. (You used to post there, any ideas why he closed it?)...

And besides GFY, I can't think of any other forum that is truly active... (Besides the Secret Black Hat one managed by that Swedish-Romanian Marcel a.k.a Damaged-X, original owner of jonsvids dot com)...

Just sayin...

PM me. I'm not sure if I can say why publicly.. Nothing bad, just kinda funny :upsidedow

Plus I don't think he thinks it's worth getting back online since it was kind of dead anyways..

Towards the end, I was talking to myself like Paul Markham.

Not fast enough in my opinion. Why people were still hanging around there after Lord Whathisfuck shafted them on affiliate payments and Pond Points is beyond me. Sleazybear gave me the banhammer right on the ole noggin for having said a few words about that.

I'm curious if Urbi is ever going to return to tell us if the Butcher's check cleared and perhaps explain the reason for not giving him his name and address to expedite the matter.

its still up (and for sale LOL!)
I've love to see it go down though, AGA owes me 2k

you should sue him long time ago :thumbsup

In my day, if we wanted to cash a check, we had to walk ten miles to the bank ..... without shoes ..... in a blizzard ..... uphill ..... while angry rabid squirrels tried to steal our nuts ..............

Urbi, seriously ... how long does it take cash a check?

It take half month, but that`s not the problem...problem is if the check is not cleared...

BTW I`ve got PP from The Butcher yesterday, so after 4 months and this GFY pressure I`ve got paid! And I`ve got good lesson...

So this means it's all cleared up now, right?

The power of gfy!

He now sent instant Paypal payment

You say 4 months and GFY pressure resolved this, but why didn't you just give him your name and address and have it resolved sooner?

:))) that`s his words... truth is, that he had all these infos from me from the day ONE...I have it in email comminication..

Until you prove that, it's just your words against his words.

You are out right a liar and full of shit. Every time I asked you for a name and address to mail you a check you refused to give it to me. Also the first wire was refused because the bank requires the recipients name and address.

Stop the games, I sent you an echeck last week, when I loaded my new pp I went ahead and sent you another $900 instant payment on Tuesday night and emailed you to say I am trying to be nice to you get you the money now instead of you waiting for the echeck to clear. I am not going to waste my time explaining over and over again to you or anyone else here that had you given me your name and address we would not be discussing this past the first week of the deal. Webmasterland.com is paid for in full and end of story.


You want proof, here is some of the recent email convo, how many times did I ask you for your name and address to pay you?


" --------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Urban <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: you want to fix this
To: NFVLTD <[email protected]>


Problem is that I dont believe you after three months of "next week bro"... it`s not my fault that you was not able to pay for domain in 3 months. You had a lot of time to solve it.

You dont do bad checks? Like the first one echeck from Paypal.. be man and face it now:)


2013/11/27 NFVLTD <[email protected]>

I don't write bad checks, I don't use paypal any more.

How hard is it to solve this?




On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:50 PM, David Urban <[email protected]> wrote:

Ok Dave, so let`s try it this way:) pay me today with PP otherwise I`ll try it legal way... I have nothing to lose :)

You have also chance to return this domain back if you don`t want to pay.

And please dont ask again for cheque address, I`m not going to wait one month for bad check to arrive:)


2013/11/27 David Urban <[email protected]>

Dave, you dont read my emails? I gave you all the info needed for a wire and all other international wires going well...only yours not.

How can I be sure, that your paper cheque will be cleared? Why you dont use paypal?


2013/11/27 NFVLTD <[email protected]>

I keep asking you for a name and address for the check. I already did a wire, it failed because they require the address of the receiving party. Just give me the name and address for the check lets finish this.


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:52 PM, David Urban <[email protected]> wrote:

Dave, how hard is to send money via wire or Paypal?

Well, I`ve called last time my bank, and wire from you haven`t reached my bank, so that was NOT my fault.

Please go trough your emails, how many times you promissed payment:) and it still was not made! Even 3 months after deal! How I can be sure, that your check will be cleared and it will not coste me fee for uncleared checks?




2013/11/27 NFVLTD <[email protected]>

I have offered and do so now again to pay you, I wills end you a check drawn in US Dollars, all I need is a name to put on the thing and an address to send it to. Last time it cost me to wire you and it bounced.

How hard is it to give me a name and address for a check.

Peace


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:22 PM, David Urban <[email protected]> wrote:

You can wire or Paypal me. I dont see any reasonable point why you can`t use these services.

After 3 months of your "next week bro" I really don`t believe that your cheque will be cleared and I`m NOT going to pay for this (as banks charge for uncleared cheques). Maybe I`m naive, that I`ve transfered domain to you before I`ve got money, but I`m not stupid to get screwed two times lol :)

David


2013/11/27 NFVLTD <[email protected]>

Give me a name and address for the check mate

Simple

Dave"


I am not coming back to post here, you made this into a mess by not providing me a name and addy in the first place, you had your 15 minutes of glory, I have work to do.

All this drama because Urbi was too rigid about the manner in which he wanted to be paid.

This first post was just loaded with so many unsubstantiated claims that I never could take it seriously.

Why not comming back here? Worry more frauds will be exposed? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

all this said I have a six letter domain seysha.com that I am interested in selling...anyone wanna make a reasonable offer?