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Old 11-22-2013, 08:03 PM   #1
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This makes me feel physically sick...

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Fucking disgraceful.
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Old 11-22-2013, 08:07 PM   #2
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I read 70 percent the lions have been killed in the past 20 yrs. if it keeps up in 10 yrs there will be no more wild lions.
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I can see hunting for food but trophy hunting is cruel
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Seriously...how is this shit even allowed to go on?
Posing with beautiful animals that she has killed.
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I can understand people who hunt deer and elk. Every hunter I know eats the meat are potential population control issues also in play. To me something has to be broken inside you to want to hunt and kill an animal like a lion or a rhino or elephant. To me it is no different than people who get off on dog fighting or cock fighting. Getting enjoyment from hurting animals is messed up.
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We can only hope that karma gets this cunt and she meets a similar demise.
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Old 11-22-2013, 08:36 PM   #8
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One of her tweets says :

My first Nyala in South Africa...what a beautiful place and incredible weather!! I'm loving it here... pic.twitter.com/Mg8RLlT8ur


I'll bet the lion doesn't think a bullet to the head is beautiful. One of those lions is worth more than that idiot. If the world is lucky, she'll miss one day and get a faceful of teeth.
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too bad there is no hell...
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too bad there is no hell...
How this dizzy fucking woman can be proud that she killed a Lion I have no idea. Hunting is *not* a sport (sorry Hunters). Animals are no match for humans with guns and night scopes and bigger brains and Helicopters (Sarah Pailin). If she wants to earn that fucking grin on her ugly face, she should have the tits to go into the jungle alone without any weapons or technology and then try to tango with a Lion. That "grin" will be on that beautiful Lion's face, not hers.
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Karma will catch up to her, hopefully a slow painful death with cancer... SOON!!!

Oh and I would not mind doing the jailtime after a face to face with that c-u-n-t
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I can't describe the total thrill of never murdering a beautiful wild animal & mounting its head on a wall. It's exhilarating and so natural
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Okay. I'm a vegan for environmental and ethical reasons. Let me give you an argument why stuff like this is a good idea.

Firstly, hunting licenses for stuff like Lions is controlled by conversations, and as you can see, they go after big males. A millionaire will arrive at the park, they'll be told which animal can be killed and then they'll be given the chance to go out and do it.

Parks charge a lot of money for the experience, and they only put hits on animals that are no longer able to reproduce, are a risk to humans or otherwise pose a threat to the new cubs themselves (see lion cannibalism). The park then spends the money on their efforts to keep the park afloat, and is able to buy food, supplies and provide publicity to the effort of keeping species from going extinct.

She isn't just going around, mindlessly slaughtering anything that she comes across. These are controlled, important kills that yes, come in quite an unnecessary form, but ultimately serve a better purpose.

Additionally, if anyone here is outraged by this type of material and still partakes in the consumption of animal products, I'd ask you why it's justified for you to kill dozens of animals every year unnecessarily (vegan diets when executed correctly are healthy, so there's no need for you to have cheese, meat, etc.) but she can't partake in the hunting of an animal.

If you argument is that you enjoy eating meat, I'd ask you to question whether or not she enjoys hunting.

Any takers?
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Any takers?
Yea - right here:

First of all...Bullshit: Important Kills? nice try.

If animals need to be culled then let park rangers do it, but no reason to believe a word of your story unless you post references.

This bitch GLORIFIES and SENSATIONALIZES senseless and needless killing... Illegal hunting is a huge problem and there are endangered species being slaughtered everyday and this murderous woman is on YouTube and TV promoting the killing of animals for sport and it will only encourage others who cant afford to pay huge park fees to go and kill illegally.

Think about the ramifications if she were to cause a huge increase in the demand for animal murder with her fake tits and pleasant smile...she may be killing legal and non-threatened species, but all the interest she is creating just makes it more likely that dumbfuck rednecks will gear up and go wipe out endangered species to sell gall bladders to Chinese quacks etc.

The point of contention the sane world has with her sick insanity is not that she is murdering indiscriminately it's her disgusting glorification and total disregard for the animals...and attitude that humans technological superiority makes them our property to be dispatched at will.

Are we going to progress as a species or let monsters like this cunt take us back to the stone ages?
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Yea - right here:

First of all...Bullshit: Important Kills? nice try.
This isn't an argument. This is you saying "you're wrong" without providing any counter point. "Nice try" doesn't mean anything. Actually provide some content to your response.

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If animals need to be culled then let park rangers do it, but no reason to believe a word of your story unless you post references.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ican-park.html

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The reserves are using implanted contraceptives in lionesses to control numbers, but say that this is not totally effective.
Hunting is a possible solution for Jan Lessing, the manager at the 10,000-acre Entabeni reserve. "The first option is to try to sell them," he said. "If we don't get anybody interested, the second option is to see if we can hunt them. If we don't get permission for that, we'll have to cull them."

Trophy hunters will pay up to 50,000 rand (£4,500) to shoot a lion, more than 10 times the price it would fetch if sold.
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Killing a few lions may help the rest survive. New research suggests that relatively few lions are responsible for most of the livestock kills on African ranches, which means that targeted lion-culling could ease conflicts with ranchers and thus benefit the species as a whole.
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This bitch GLORIFIES and SENSATIONALIZES senseless and needless killing
As pointed out before, the killing isn't needless, as it provides ways for ranches to control population and raise money. This is a bad argument.

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... Illegal hunting is a huge problem and there are endangered species being slaughtered everyday and this murderous woman is on YouTube and TV promoting the killing of animals for sport and it will only encourage others who cant afford to pay huge park fees to go and kill illegally.
Okay. So you argument is that pictures such as this encourage others to do the same... you do realize that in order to take part in this activity, she had to go onto a huge reserve and do it in a foreign country, right? You'll have to provide evidence as to the statistics regarding how many people go ahead and actually do that. As far as I know, spending $5k on flights, accommodation, time off work, etc. is a little bit weird to take part in an illegal hunt of a lion.

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Think about the ramifications if she were to cause a huge increase in the demand for animal murder with her fake tits and pleasant smile...she may be killing legal and non-threatened species, but all the interest she is creating just makes it more likely that dumbfuck rednecks will gear up and go wipe out endangered species to sell gall bladders to Chinese quacks etc.
This is a terrible argument to present. We shouldn't discourage people engaging in legal, practical solutions that help reservations because you think that someone might go ahead and do it illegally. Well, how about this for an idea: her image actually promotes killing through hunting reserves, and they get a huge influx of other wealthy people that want to do it. You can spin this argument both ways, and I seriously doubt any redneck is going to look at this and go "yeah, let's head on over to Africa to kill a lion!". It really doesn't work that way.

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The point of contention the sane world has with her sick insanity is not that she is murdering indiscriminately it's her disgusting glorification and total disregard for the animals...and attitude that humans technological superiority makes them our property to be dispatched at will.
I'd say trying to fight one woman that takes a picture with a single dead lion is a part of the problem of the abuse of animals, yes. I'd also say that the billions of livestock that are killed and abused with total disregard for them is a more shocking variable. This is no different than people taking pictures of their steak and putting it on Instagram: the only difference is that it doesn't touch quite close enough to home because you don't see the animal in its natural environment.

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Are we going to progress as a species or let monsters like this cunt take us back to the stone ages?
I think calling someone a cunt for killing an animal is the wrong way to progress as a species. I think you have to understand that people don't really know any better and are victims of their circumstances.

You skipped over the vegan part: do you abstain from the consumption of animal products? I think it's important to let everyone here know just how offended you are by people using animals as property. Unless you're vegan, your daily eating routine is as much about the ownership of animals as you're arguing against.
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Arnox you are obviously a smart dude but I don't have time to read your text wall. You heard my viewpoint and your holier than thou attitude because you're a vegan doesn't jive with your pro-animal-murder-4-sport views.
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Arnox- This whole "I'm a vegan for ecology/ ethics" thing is BS. Utter, utter bullshit. It relies on assumptions which are just entirely untrue. More animals die to produce vegetarian food than to produce the equivalent amount of meat for a meal. The idea that grazing land could become land for fruit, vegetables or grain for human consumption is completely false. Not all land is good for any kind of use. Grazing land allows for a great deal more biodiversity as native animals do not destroy or reduce yields from farmed animals.

http://theconversation.com/ordering-...our-hands-4659

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=97836

People who are vegetarian or vegan for health reasons are simply mistaken, people who are vegetarian or vegan for ecological/ ethical reasons are hypocrites.
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Arnox- This whole "I'm a vegan for ecology/ ethics" thing is BS. Utter, utter bullshit. It relies on assumptions which are just entirely untrue. More animals die to produce vegetarian food than to produce the equivalent amount of meat for a meal.
This argument would be true except for the fact that we have to feed animals around 10 kilos of feed to produce 1 kilo of food. Animals have to eat in order to produce muscle, vegans cut out the middle man by not needing to have someone consume the food for them before they eat the food.

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The idea that grazing land could become land for fruit, vegetables or grain for human consumption is completely false.
'Completely false' is a rather broad statement. I'd like for you to break down exactly where the issues lie in the sustainability of veganism.

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Not all land is good for any kind of use. Grazing land allows for a great deal more biodiversity as native animals do not destroy or reduce yields from farmed animals.
I agree that not all land is good for any kind of use. Your second point is irrelevant. You're arguing points that no one makes.

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People who are vegetarian or vegan for health reasons are simply mistaken, people who are vegetarian or vegan for ecological/ ethical reasons are hypocrites.
The issue with your two sources are that they refer to the production of meat in Australia. Australia is mainly pastured livestock, because it happens to have a very large area that can be utilized and a low population that doesn't need it. 90% of the world's beef production is done in factory farms: grain fed. Again, 10/1 relationship here.

Secondly, the article uses measurements based on kilo of protein, which a terrible, irrelevant measurement that meat is always going to win on. This article was actually posted on my FB feed and my opinion was asked, it's an old chestnut, I've addressed it. Here it is copy/pasted:

"Published figures suggest that, in Australia, producing wheat and other grains results in:

at least 25 times more sentient animals being killed per kilogram of useable protein"

When you use arguments like this, your article becomes futile.

Wheat isn't the best source of protein, so even when you mention an unsourced claim that farming animals for kilograms of protein is efficient, you have to appreciate that it's kind of what meat does. It'd be like me using vitamin C as a benchmark and writing an article to argue that we should all just eat oranges because it's dozens of times more efficient than meat.

Also, don't omnivores also consume grains too? I missed the part where living on a diet of pure meat would be healthy and viable.

I can talk all day on the subject, because it's the way I live my life. If you want to pretend you have a clue past reading a single article on a few news websites written by bad journalists, you can continue. Your best bet is to just avoid responding though: I'm far too knowledgeable on the subject, and I doubt pro-meat agenda is something you're passionate about.

I'm all ears if you have a good argument. There isn't one, though.
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Your best bet is to just avoid responding though: I'm far too knowledgeable on the subject, and I doubt pro-meat agenda is something you're passionate about.
A) You're an arrogant twat.
B) I live a Primal lifestyle so am just as passionate about health and nutrition as an vegan or vegetarian I've come across.

But you're right, I'm not going to argue with you. It's completely pointless.
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A) You're an arrogant twat.
B) I live a Primal lifestyle so am just as passionate about health and nutrition as an vegan or vegetarian I've come across.

But you're right, I'm not going to argue with you. It's completely pointless.
I don't know why you had to lower it to personal insults, but okay.

Poo poo head.
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B) I live a Primal lifestyle so am just as passionate about health and nutrition as an vegan or vegetarian I've come across.

But you're right, I'm not going to argue with you. It's completely pointless.


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The rationale for such an approach is that humans have evolved for millions of years in a paleolithic environment. Therefore, their body and mind can be expected to be adequately adapted to the concomitant hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Agriculture, on the other hand, only appeared about 10 000 years ago at the beginning of the neolithic era, and industrial society only about 200 years ago.

Proponents of a paleolithic lifestyle assert that insufficient time has passed for humans to adapt to the changes brought by farming and industrialization, leading to a misfit between modern lifestyle and the human genome.

While a small number of cultures in the world continue to live a paleolithic hunter-gatherer lifestyle, a subculture of people has emerged in modern societies who try to recreate elements of a paleolithic lifestyle.

Their motivation is to enhance health, fitness and happiness by avoiding the common "diseases of civilization", such as obesity, some cardiovascular diseases, metabolic syndrome, increasingly prevalent allergies, some forms of depression and chronic stress. These diseases are not yet evidenced among hunter-gatherers, and therefore they are attributed to the modern, "civilized" lifestyle.

Moreover there are indications that a paleolithic lifestyle is likely to reduce stress and depression, and increase overall happiness and well-being, given that our minds and emotions too are adapted for a life as hunter-gatherers.

The movement is primarily associated with the paleolithic diet, but also includes going barefoot, and replicating a paleolithic exercise routine, or involve paleolithic survival skills. Some people advocate prehistoric lifestyles for animals, notably raw feeding and natural hoof care.

More generally, the paleo movement fits within a "back to nature" philosophy, as advocated, e.g., by many environmentalists. However, it distinguishes itself from some more utopian ideas associated with this philosophy by focusing on a realistic, scientific view of what humanity's "true nature" is.

For example, it rejects any notions that vegetarianism or veganism is a natural lifestyle, given the evidence that paleolithic people and most present-day hunter-gatherers consumed substantial amounts of animal protein. Evidence such as this comes from scientific disciplines like anthropology, paleoanthropology, evolutionary medicine, evolutionary psychology and environmental psychology.


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Arnox you are obviously a smart dude Arnox: I called you out and you totally backed up your POV with proof, I have no counterpoint whatsoever, so am just giving up now as you clearly pwned me.
Fixed yer typos.
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when watching this photos i can't help myself by thinking one day she will publish photo where she will hold heads of her daughters with forehead holes and still having this proud smile on her face.
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Okay. I'm a vegan for environmental and ethical reasons. Let me give you an argument why stuff like this is a good idea.

Firstly, hunting licenses for stuff like Lions is controlled by conversations, and as you can see, they go after big males. A millionaire will arrive at the park, they'll be told which animal can be killed and then they'll be given the chance to go out and do it.

Parks charge a lot of money for the experience, and they only put hits on animals that are no longer able to reproduce, are a risk to humans or otherwise pose a threat to the new cubs themselves (see lion cannibalism). The park then spends the money on their efforts to keep the park afloat, and is able to buy food, supplies and provide publicity to the effort of keeping species from going extinct.

She isn't just going around, mindlessly slaughtering anything that she comes across. These are controlled, important kills that yes, come in quite an unnecessary form, but ultimately serve a better purpose.

Additionally, if anyone here is outraged by this type of material and still partakes in the consumption of animal products, I'd ask you why it's justified for you to kill dozens of animals every year unnecessarily (vegan diets when executed correctly are healthy, so there's no need for you to have cheese, meat, etc.) but she can't partake in the hunting of an animal.

If you argument is that you enjoy eating meat, I'd ask you to question whether or not she enjoys hunting.

Any takers?
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Okay. I'm a vegan for environmental and ethical reasons. Let me give you an argument why stuff like this is a good idea.

Firstly, hunting licenses for stuff like Lions is controlled by conversations, and as you can see, they go after big males. A millionaire will arrive at the park, they'll be told which animal can be killed and then they'll be given the chance to go out and do it.

Parks charge a lot of money for the experience, and they only put hits on animals that are no longer able to reproduce, are a risk to humans or otherwise pose a threat to the new cubs themselves (see lion cannibalism). The park then spends the money on their efforts to keep the park afloat, and is able to buy food, supplies and provide publicity to the effort of keeping species from going extinct.

She isn't just going around, mindlessly slaughtering anything that she comes across. These are controlled, important kills that yes, come in quite an unnecessary form, but ultimately serve a better purpose.

Additionally, if anyone here is outraged by this type of material and still partakes in the consumption of animal products, I'd ask you why it's justified for you to kill dozens of animals every year unnecessarily (vegan diets when executed correctly are healthy, so there's no need for you to have cheese, meat, etc.) but she can't partake in the hunting of an animal.

If you argument is that you enjoy eating meat, I'd ask you to question whether or not she enjoys hunting.

Any takers?
look a friendly word of advice.... you can't get anywhere explaining or pointing out facts to these guys.... they wake up every morning looking for validation and you trying 'invalidate' them with the facts is only going to cause issue for you... next you'll be called a hate filled bigot and stalked in every post, and these guys will attack your business as well if they can... look at the tone of the argument's and you'll see.... every 'point' is made on personal onion with character assassination, and their obviously superior moral stance and proof of the validity of the claim.... walk a way bro....
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Okay. I'm a vegan for environmental and ethical reasons. Let me give you an argument why stuff like this is a good idea.

Firstly, hunting licenses for stuff like Lions is controlled by conversations, and as you can see, they go after big males. A millionaire will arrive at the park, they'll be told which animal can be killed and then they'll be given the chance to go out and do it.

Parks charge a lot of money for the experience, and they only put hits on animals that are no longer able to reproduce, are a risk to humans or otherwise pose a threat to the new cubs themselves (see lion cannibalism). The park then spends the money on their efforts to keep the park afloat, and is able to buy food, supplies and provide publicity to the effort of keeping species from going extinct.

She isn't just going around, mindlessly slaughtering anything that she comes across. These are controlled, important kills that yes, come in quite an unnecessary form, but ultimately serve a better purpose.

Additionally, if anyone here is outraged by this type of material and still partakes in the consumption of animal products, I'd ask you why it's justified for you to kill dozens of animals every year unnecessarily (vegan diets when executed correctly are healthy, so there's no need for you to have cheese, meat, etc.) but she can't partake in the hunting of an animal.

If you argument is that you enjoy eating meat, I'd ask you to question whether or not she enjoys hunting.

Any takers?

So, you are saying it's OK if I come to your house and shoot your grandma? Or is it OK if I pay a lot of money for the experience? I mean, she is unlikely to reproduce and if she drives, she's definitely a danger to others....
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So, you are saying it's OK if I come to your house and shoot your grandma? Or is it OK if I pay a lot of money for the experience? I mean, she is unlikely to reproduce and if she drives, she's definitely a danger to others....
depends on the way Obama care goes I would think, cost way more than is possible to pay for Obama, care so allowing people to hunt and kill old people will generate funds plus pull those greedy ass sucking older folks off the plan.... since a majority of health cost go to 'end of life' cost

BTW if your going to state stupid shit, I will return the favor for you
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So, you are saying it's OK if I come to your house and shoot your grandma? Or is it OK if I pay a lot of money for the experience? I mean, she is unlikely to reproduce and if she drives, she's definitely a danger to others....

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Old 11-24-2013, 06:48 AM   #41
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My first Nyala in South Africa...what a beautiful place and incredible weather!! I'm loving it here... pic.twitter.com/Mg8RLlT8ur


I'll bet the lion doesn't think a bullet to the head is beautiful. One of those lions is worth more than that idiot. If the world is lucky, she'll miss one day and get a faceful of teeth.
That lion is absolutely beautiful too...and she fucking killed it!
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The human population needs to be culled more than any other species. They need to set it up so two evenly skilled hunters hunt each other

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hunting: only in america.

wait, only in africa.

no, only in america and africa.

no, wait, canada too.

only in america, africa and canada.
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i'll never get hunting unless you eat it...even then i don't really get it.


any relation to that psycho michelle bachman?
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Scroll down the twitter link, she's quite the hunter ??..
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same here.
why would you be so upset about legal hunting and hope for this?

seems conflicting.
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